Democratic Primary Poll (Formerly Warren or Gabbard)

Warren or Gabbard


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Oct 6, 2009
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#1
I think Warren is more valuable as a Senator.
 
Aug 21, 2003
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#2
There are about to be 136 more democrats running for the presidency. Keep the powder dry.
 
Oct 6, 2009
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#3
There are about to be 136 more democrats running for the presidency. Keep the powder dry.
I know but I find this to be an interesting choice. I do not know a whole lot about Gabbard yet. Onthissues does not have a whole lot of info for her. All I can gather right now is she is a middle-of-the-road Democrat.

People can change their votes here if they change their minds down the road. It also looks like I might be able to add choices later.
 

Starbuck1975

Diamond Member
Jan 6, 2005
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I would vote for Tulsi Gabbard, especially because she is a veteran and had the audacity to challenge the mainstream by supporting Sanders.

Warren has already proven that questions over her heritage will derail and send her off message. I have to find the article, but I believe Nate Silver did an analysis on which Democrats performed best in the midterms, and Warren actually underperformed.
 
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Jun 23, 2004
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Oct 6, 2009
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Jun 23, 2004
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Yeah but would she across the board vote for single payer, legalize drugs, free tuition, etc. like Sanders? I honestly don't know.
True, I don't know either how far she'd go on specific issues. Thankfully, a campaign would probably help define those issues. But anyone who believes in Sanders is probably further "Left" than anyone that has ever been President. If Tulsi has a weakness, I'm not sure how effective of a communicator she is. If someone can help her deliver her message. I hope she can.
 

cirrrocco

Golden Member
Sep 7, 2004
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Gabbard ftw. Sanders / Gabbard for 2020
 
Jul 20, 2001
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I shall ponder this question in about a year from now if it is still a question at that time.
 
Jul 12, 2006
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The primary pause that I have with Tulsi Gabbard is that her family is an extremely fundamentalist religio-cult that harbors intensely inhuman ultra-conservative social policy beliefs. She was very active in such groups, up until the time in her life when she went political as a democrat, and rather publicly "recanted" all of that past. That's a pretty strong passion to hold for decades, to suddenly flip when the plan is to get into politics.

I think she has voted OK, but my concern is that her younger, perhaps truer self and her family and their history would influence her enough to make any kind of compromise with the type of human-killing conservatives that make up the vast majority of the GOP electorate. There can't really be any sort of tolerance for these people and their broken ideas in a modern society.
 
Jul 12, 2006
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I would vote for Tulsi Gabbard, especially because she is a veteran and had the audacity to challenge the mainstream by supporting Sanders.

Warren has already proven that questions over her heritage will derail and send her off message. I have to find the article, but I believe Nate Silver did an analysis on which Democrats performed best in the midterms, and Warren actually underperformed.
I like how our standards for Democrats are "Jesus-like perfection" where for republicans, it's "let's hope for better-than-2nd-grade cognitive levels."

OH wait no, I don't like that. I daresay such people aren't really being honest in their "independent" assessment of candidates across both parties. funny that. :D
 
Nov 25, 2013
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If Gabbard wins maybe she could ask this guy to be her vice president

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I actually don't believe that either has a hope in hell of getting the nomination.
 

Indus

Diamond Member
May 11, 2002
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#16
I think 7 have a legit shot at the nomination..

Beto
Biden
Harris
Gabbard
Sanders
Warren
Booker

I'm not sure which one will win out but everyone will have their positives and negatives.
 
Jun 23, 2004
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If Gabbard wins maybe she could ask this guy to be her vice president

Yes, the Republican position on talking to enemy nations is clear.
Democrats, however, have a more sensible approach. Which Republicans have hated on and lambasted for years, decades even.

The question I have is... why did you side with the Republicans? Particularly when its so close to their tired and true agenda of regime change?
 
Nov 25, 2013
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Yes, the Republican position on talking to enemy nations is clear.
Democrats, however, have a more sensible approach. Which Republicans have hated on and lambasted for years, decades even.

The question I have is... why did you side with the Republicans? Particularly when its so close to their tired and true agenda of regime change?
ROFLMAO

Thanks for the laugh
 

Stokely

Senior member
Jun 5, 2017
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The primary pause that I have with Tulsi Gabbard is that her family is an extremely fundamentalist religio-cult that harbors intensely inhuman ultra-conservative social policy beliefs. She was very active in such groups, up until the time in her life when she went political as a democrat, and rather publicly "recanted" all of that past. That's a pretty strong passion to hold for decades, to suddenly flip when the plan is to get into politics.

I think she has voted OK, but my concern is that her younger, perhaps truer self and her family and their history would influence her enough to make any kind of compromise with the type of human-killing conservatives that make up the vast majority of the GOP electorate. There can't really be any sort of tolerance for these people and their broken ideas in a modern society.
yep. I'm out. No religious nutters please, if you are moronic to believe that stuff as an adult you don't get a pass on it later when you want to be seen as mainstream. I don't give a shit which religion either. They are all cults.
 

Starbuck1975

Diamond Member
Jan 6, 2005
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I like how our standards for Democrats are "Jesus-like perfection" where for republicans, it's "let's hope for better-than-2nd-grade cognitive levels."

OH wait no, I don't like that. I daresay such people aren't really being honest in their "independent" assessment of candidates across both parties. funny that. :D
I don’t see how preferring Gabbard over Warren is an expectation of Jesus like perfection. Warren has made some blunders and is perhaps better in the Senate. If Democrats want independent voters to get excited, they need to do better than Clinton. Sanders missed his window of opportunity. Beto is shiny. Gabbard is credible.

I would support a Biden/Gabbard ticket.
 
Jun 23, 2004
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ROFLMAO

Thanks for the laugh
Do you still stand by your stated position FOR regime change in Syria?
Syria will never recover as a functioning state if Assad is allowed to remain.

It just seems strange to see a Democrat wanting the United States to REPEAT the mistakes of 2003 Iraq. Saddam just had to go, right? Sorry, maybe I didn't catch when you joined George W. Bush in foreign policy.
 
Nov 25, 2013
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Do you still stand by your stated position FOR regime change in Syria?
Syria will never recover as a functioning state if Assad is allowed to remain.

It just seems strange to see a Democrat wanting the United States to REPEAT the mistakes of 2003 Iraq. Saddam just had to go, right? Sorry, maybe I didn't catch when you joined George W. Bush in foreign policy.
Who the fuck's a democrat? I'm not even an American. Don't even like the Democratic Party.

You should stick with shit you actually know something about. Like calling Hillary Clinton the devil.

edit (added a couple more)

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2016/12/20/assads-torture-dungeons

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/05/2011515113431187136.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ccaa6e-0d61-11e7-b2bb-417e331877d9_story.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2016/11/disappeared-syria-161110134005207.html

https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-09...president-bashar-al-assad-has-been-his-people

https://www.hrw.org/news/2012/02/03/syria-stop-torture-children

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/world/middleeast/syria-bashar-al-assad-evidence.html

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...terhouse-amnesty-report-torture-mass-hangings

https://www.dw.com/en/syrian-women-tortured-and-humiliated-in-assad-regime-prisons/a-43600204

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/syria-bodies/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...conditions-exclusive-life-jails-a7899776.html
 
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Jun 23, 2005
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Women seem to have pause when it comes to voting for a female candidate which unfortunately is not limited to Hillary. If the Dems want the best chance nominating someone like Biden would probably be their best bet. Sanders would have been my first choice, but he's just too old at this point.
 
May 15, 2000
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Women seem to have pause when it comes to voting for a female candidate which unfortunately is not limited to Hillary. If the Dems want the best chance nominating someone like Biden would probably be their best bet. Sanders would have been my first choice, but he's just too old at this point.
Isn't Biden just as old as sanders?


I like warren because, like Clinton, she has real thought out policies to deal with issues that concern her and like Clinton she has a record of accomplishments, unlike sanders.


That being said, if it's between any Democrat or trump, I'll be voting third party because none of the democrat candidates will meet my ridiculous expectations, including not having a history of baseless attacks by the GOP.
/s
 
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Jul 12, 2006
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I don’t see how preferring Gabbard over Warren is an expectation of Jesus like perfection. Warren has made some blunders and is perhaps better in the Senate. If Democrats want independent voters to get excited, they need to do better than Clinton. Sanders missed his window of opportunity. Beto is shiny. Gabbard is credible.

I would support a Biden/Gabbard ticket.
You wrote off Warren for basically 2 public comments.

go back to thinking about what you said.

I don't mind Gabbard in the lesser role...but again as mentioned earlier: she was basically raised in a Clockwork Orange family of Wurm eaters and Baal worshipers so...you know, I honestly believe in how people can learn and reform themselves...but still, that.
 

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