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fskimospy

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But the mayor does control the streets. Making it easier for buses to flow would do wonders for mass transit, even if the MTA is state-controlled.
Definitely! He can't make the buses free but he can make them run faster.

Of course he's going to run into a blizzard of environmental review lawsuits but that's normal. (depressingly)
 

RnR_au

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Definitely! He can't make the buses free but he can make them run faster.
Here in Brisbane, Australia the ticket fares on the public transport system (trains, busses and catamarans) have been set to a fixed 50c regardless of how long your journey is. The longest journey on the city network used to cost edit: $29 a day. This is a huge bonus to poorer folk that may need to travel quite far on a daily basis.

Interesting enough the policy was implemented on a trial basis by the left Labor party, but they lost the state election. The winning right wing government has made the scheme permanent costing something like $AU1.5bil a year. It seems to have resulted in an 18% rise in journeys taken across the transport network.
 
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RnR_au

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Is that all "cost", or has there been tertiary benefits? Traffic any better with higher use? People spending more money in the city since they aren't spending it on transport?
Thats the cost to the state government and its for the budget period, not just a year -my bad on that.

Not sure about traffic or city spending. I think the measure was introduced because Australia, like most of the world, is in a cost-of-living crisis. There was also the report that the Federal Treasury have under-predicted the number of immigrants coming to Australia over a number of years by 800000. Given that we are only 26mil folk, thats a decent increase that our local councils and state governments didn't have a chance in planning for.

So cost of living and lagging infrastructure.
 
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fskimospy

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Here in Brisbane, Australia the ticket fares on the public transport system (trains, busses and catamarans) have been set to a fixed 50c regardless of how long your journey is. The longest journey on the city network used to cost edit: $29 a day. This is a huge bonus to poorer folk that may need to travel quite far on a daily basis.

Interesting enough the policy was implemented on a trial basis by the left Labor party, but they lost the state election. The winning right wing government has made the scheme permanent costing something like $AU1.5bil a year. It seems to have resulted in an 18% rise in journeys taken across the transport network.
While I don’t think transit should be free the larger issue here is the mayor doesn’t set bus fares in NYC.
 

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Help me out here with a translation or explanation. I'm not understanding this as written and I have tried. :(
Few words: Trump literally put everyone, except the MAGA against him in a way that this elections is just the beggining.
 

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chucky seems more worried about a foreign country than he is about his constituents


last post with anything AOC is like a year ago...they are big time in denial

I think that endorsements from establishment democrats would have done the same for Mamdani as Dick Cheney's endorsement did for Kamala.

I think that Mamdani, AOC, squad, all progressives need to ride the divide and coup the Dem party. Wreck the DNC and rebuild it in a progressive image.

I think we already see AOC doing this?
 

dank69

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here comes the research, some major shifts



1. Almost every single county moved to Dems​

2. Democrats can win in low- and high-turnout races​

3. Democrats swung economy-focused voters by 93 points​

4. Democrats’ affordability message worked regardless of nominee ideology​

5. Trump’s gains with Gen Z and Latinos have vanished​

6. The Virginia results suggest a D+8 national environment for 2026​

7. Pollsters missed by about as much as they did in 2024 — but in the other direction​

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It's 6 o'clock. Fox will get the country back to 9 o'clock before the Dems are even seated.
 

KMFJD

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I think that endorsements from establishment democrats would have done the same for Mamdani as Dick Cheney's endorsement did for Kamala.

I think that Mamdani, AOC, squad, all progressives need to ride the divide and coup the Dem party. Wreck the DNC and rebuild it in a progressive image.

I think we already see AOC doing this?
all the major local democrats endorsed him (although it took a long ass time for a lot of them) except schumer.

i do agree with him distancing himself from 'the establishment" and if anyone says they'd like to mentor him, he should be 'thank you, but i'm good'
 
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I think that endorsements from establishment democrats would have done the same for Mamdani as Dick Cheney's endorsement did for Kamala.

I think that Mamdani, AOC, squad, all progressives need to ride the divide and coup the Dem party. Wreck the DNC and rebuild it in a progressive image.

I think we already see AOC doing this?
I don't think they need to do a divide and coup. It's a big tent political party. If anything, you just need people that don't engage in unnecessary intra-party warfare nor let themselves be dragged into it by pundit-journalists looking to publish another "Dems are fighting" story.

Also, the "DNC" is very weak overall. In the US, the national party is just an amalgamation of all the state and local parties, and state ballot access laws let anyone run (and potentially win) on a primary line for a party. The parties are not strong gate keepers at all, nor is there much of a mechanism to punish members that step out of line.
 
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I’m curious, why do you think they shouldn’t be free?
I agree that transit should have a nominal cost.

For one, it creates a dedicated constituency of people that feel like they can demand something from their political leaders because they pay a use fee, vs something that is only paid for with tax money. In a downturn, the thing viewed as a handout is likely to face more substantial cuts.

There are also better ways to improve transit over giving away rides, like reducing headways to reduce waiting times.

And for NYC in particular, something like 40% of the budget is from fares. That is a massive amount of money to replace.
 
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Pelosi has declared that she won't run again. I think she should have retired about two terms ago but I won't join the rage wagon on her. While she is farther to the right than I care for, she restored discipline to the party as best she could.
 
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I agree that transit should have a nominal cost.

For one, it creates a dedicated constituency of people that feel like they can demand something from their political leaders because they pay a use fee, vs something that is only paid for with tax money. In a downturn, the thing viewed as a handout is likely to face more substantial cuts.

There are also better ways to improve transit over giving away rides, like reducing headways to reduce waiting times.

And for NYC in particular, something like 40% of the budget is from fares. That is a massive amount of money to replace.

I am personally in the bus fast and frequent is actually better than bus free camp.
 
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K1052

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Pelosi has declared that she won't run again. I think she should have retired about two terms ago but I won't join the rage wagon on her. While she is farther to the right than I care for, she restored discipline to the party as best she could.

For all her pluses and minuses there is little doubt that she was the most powerful woman in American politics and at least a top 3 most powerful House speaker in history.
 
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I am personally in the bus fast and frequent is actually better than bus free camp.
Yes.

A free bus every 20-30 minutes sucks. Miss it and you have this huge wait, incentivizing people driving instead. Whereas a bus that is $2 and comes every 5-10 minutes is much more convenient and doesn't require as much scheduling on the rider's side. Throw in some bus lanes to help the bus stay out of traffic and you're in business.