IronWing
No Lifer
And here is the crux of the abortion debate. Chunky, it ain't your body, it ain't your place to say.
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It's not my body if a parent wants to beat their kid to death in a parking lot, but that doesn't mean I don't make it my business to step over and stop that. Once there is brain activity, it ain't her body anymore...it's another living human inside of her body. I know you all need to have it be her body, but, sadly, it isn't, any more than a tapeworm inside of you isn't 'your body'. We just don't value the lives of tapeworms...
IronWing
No Lifer
Her body still ain't your body yet you want to dictate what she does with it. Your arbitrary definition of personhood means squat.
Oh I don't care what she does with her body. As long as whatever she does doesn't cause harm to the other human inside of her, she can knock herself out. Just like I don't care what parents do with their kids until whatever they're doing causes harm to their kids. Man that 'her body' thing is like a dog whistle for the pro-choicers...
IronWing
No Lifer
True, because women have no constitutional obligation to worry about what Chucky wants them to do with their bodies.
See my reply to JStorm. If it's another living human inside of her, that's not her body; a tapeworm inside of you is not 'your body'. Sorry if that's inconvenient for the 'She should be able to f*ck like a man and not suffer any biological consequences' crowd...
Actually I think it's quite fair. It removes the religious folks from the equation and just interjects logic. Obviously we don't want to murder humans for no good reason. If a fetus has no brain activity before a certain period, then abort without concern. What is the problem with this?
Cerpin Taxt
Lifer
What if the fetus inside her is causing her harm? Doesn't she have a right to defend herself against an unwelcome occupation of her body? Against the unwanted injection of hormones and waste into her body? If I came at you with a syringe full of hormones intent to stick you with it, would you be justified in shooting me dead if there were no reasonable alternative to prevent the assault?
Show your work in your answer.
if you'll read back, I already addressed this.
By this you must mean rape. Obviously is one has been raped, one would be using those free PG test kits the Feds would be funding to ensure they are not PG. Does this not cover a woman knowing to get an abortion before the brain activity cutoff point if she is raped?
Are you talking about waste into her body because of an actual issue during pregnancy, or, the normal byproducts of pregnancy during a healthy pregnancy?
If you come at me with a syringe full of anything and intend to stick me with it against my will, I don't know if I'd shoot you dead but I'd certainly try and prevent you sticking me with it. Of course, this doesn't cover where a woman waited past the brain activity cutoff point before choosing to abort a healthy pregnancy, so I don't know why you'd bring this up.
I'm working on taking the train home...
Don't worry Fail, I'll apply the same abortion rules to everyone, unlike Affirmative Action...
Generous from the typically whites only types.
Anything I can do to reduce the population I'm happy to support...
Do elaborate on your support for planned parenthood in "those areas, you know what I'm talking about".
Any areas would be my answer. No brain activity, and/or actual documented reviewable concern to the mother, and/or real issue with child post-birth, Fed provided abortion. Lots cheaper than the alternative, helps reduce sprawl. All we needed to do is this, and, lock the border down a few decades ago and we'd be doing good. Alas... 🙁
I think you know what areas trump was talking about, and your opinions about population reduction within them.
Your compatriots here are just itching to find out.
Even if he was talking about low income areas, that'd be a positive. If you can't afford yourself, the last thing you - and We, since We're paying for You and the baby now - is a baby. You like race realities, that is just, crazy I know!, Reality.
Do elaborate some more on your opinions about black fetuses/babies for your colleagues here.
jackstar7
Lifer
The natural follow-up that I'm always curious to know more about, is how will women who suffer a miscarriage handle the subsequent police investigation to make certain it wasn't an abortion?
I imagine that will always go well, right?
The next step is to protect the fetuses by interning pregnant women. A series of pregnancy farms can open up for care and treatment. But even then, what does the state owe a woman when she's under its control, but still suffers a miscarriage? What's the monetary value for her experience?
I imagine that will always go well, right?
The next step is to protect the fetuses by interning pregnant women. A series of pregnancy farms can open up for care and treatment. But even then, what does the state owe a woman when she's under its control, but still suffers a miscarriage? What's the monetary value for her experience?
HomerJS
Lifer
People like chucky want a bunch of white men in government to decide what a pregnant woman should do with her body.
Fist of all science has not concluded when life begins. Absent that you have a bunch of opinions. Let's just say we take chucky;s side a bunch of legislaters can make these kinds of decisions. Anyone remember the Terry Schivo case? Republicans in the Senate tried to diagnose this poor woman from the floor of the Senate and usurp the will of the husband. Turn out post autopsy the husband was 100% correct.
Point being that was nobody's decision except the families
Fist of all science has not concluded when life begins. Absent that you have a bunch of opinions. Let's just say we take chucky;s side a bunch of legislaters can make these kinds of decisions. Anyone remember the Terry Schivo case? Republicans in the Senate tried to diagnose this poor woman from the floor of the Senate and usurp the will of the husband. Turn out post autopsy the husband was 100% correct.
Point being that was nobody's decision except the families
Cerpin Taxt
Lifer
No you didn't.
No I don't.
You don't seem to know much about pregnancy.
This doesn't answer my question.
This is where you needed to show your work and failed utterly. Try again.
You should work on thinking your position through thoroughly.
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Look how racist you are, taking me saying people who can't afford themselves shouldn't be having babies to you just being racist and thinking only Blacks can't afford themselves. David Duke, is that you?
Why ever would you think another human inside of a mother would actually be the woman's body and not the other human? Talk about authoritarian!
ch33zw1z
Lifer
There ya go again, assuming a fetus is a self dependant human.
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...test-on-abortion.2512844/page-4#post-39013551
"...unless a documented health risk to mother (to be reviewed by state independent panel to keep pro-abortion women and doctors honest) and/or some tragic baby deformity/disease - and call it a day?"
Ok, and can you expound on that then?
So...then what are you talking about? Another question dodge...
What can I say, your question doesn't appear to have anything to do with snuffing out a human life inside a mother, so...?
I'm trying AgentFail, but you're not really making it easy... 🙁
Holy pot kettle Mr./Ms. Syringe!
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