Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
but what really dissapoints me here is not who is more elite but the lack of information here and a lot of idiots here who say stuff and are completely wrong......
I know a lot about SF and there is a lot of misinformation here
BTW to the moron that staated the rangers are not SF anymore...yeah wow...just go logoff now
sorry for being harsh but do not pretnd to know what you do not
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
but what really dissapoints me here is not who is more elite but the lack of information here and a lot of idiots here who say stuff and are completely wrong......
I know a lot about SF and there is a lot of misinformation here
BTW to the moron that staated the rangers are not SF anymore...yeah wow...just go logoff now
sorry for being harsh but do not pretnd to know what you do not
😛
Noob you are a tard... you cannot compare the basic training and paratroop ability the ranger recieve compared to the speciallized training the REAL SOG groups recieve.. they are not even in the same Mission capacity..
you would not send a Ranger Battallion to siege an Oil Rig or to retake a hostage situation or to assasinate someone.. those are jobs of the real CQB experts navy Seals and Delta.. rangers are designed as foward deployed solders before the main groups come ashore.. thier job is to secure landing zones, spot advanced targets, and provide intellegence for invasion forces...
Seals and Delta are much more speciallized in CQB as well as hostage rescues and ther nasty jobs where a large force is not wanted nor is neccessary. rangers are just the Airborne "Zerg" unit of the US Army. while they do retain command structure under USSOGC command they are still not even close to as elite as the other units and are not special forces when compared with Speznaz, SAS, or any other US SOG group.
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
but what really dissapoints me here is not who is more elite but the lack of information here and a lot of idiots here who say stuff and are completely wrong......
I know a lot about SF and there is a lot of misinformation here
BTW to the moron that staated the rangers are not SF anymore...yeah wow...just go logoff now
sorry for being harsh but do not pretnd to know what you do not
😛
Noob you are a tard... you cannot compare the basic training and paratroop ability the ranger recieve compared to the speciallized training the REAL SOG groups recieve.. they are not even in the same Mission capacity..
you would not send a Ranger Battallion to siege an Oil Rig or to retake a hostage situation or to assasinate someone.. those are jobs of the real CQB experts navy Seals and Delta.. rangers are designed as foward deployed solders before the main groups come ashore.. thier job is to secure landing zones, spot advanced targets, and provide intellegence for invasion forces...
Seals and Delta are much more speciallized in CQB as well as hostage rescues and ther nasty jobs where a large force is not wanted nor is neccessary. rangers are just the Airborne "Zerg" unit of the US Army. while they do retain command structure under USSOGC command they are still not even close to as elite as the other units and are not special forces when compared with Speznaz, SAS, or any other US SOG group.
you forgot to mention a very very common mission that only SF can do, due to the quick reaction and training needed for the job...
airfield takedowns
please sir just leave this thread...the Rangers are much better trained than regular paratroopers...and if you want to believe that fine...but its far from the truth
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
but what really dissapoints me here is not who is more elite but the lack of information here and a lot of idiots here who say stuff and are completely wrong......
I know a lot about SF and there is a lot of misinformation here
BTW to the moron that staated the rangers are not SF anymore...yeah wow...just go logoff now
sorry for being harsh but do not pretnd to know what you do not
😛
Noob you are a tard... you cannot compare the basic training and paratroop ability the ranger recieve compared to the speciallized training the REAL SOG groups recieve.. they are not even in the same Mission capacity..
you would not send a Ranger Battallion to siege an Oil Rig or to retake a hostage situation or to assasinate someone.. those are jobs of the real CQB experts navy Seals and Delta.. rangers are designed as foward deployed solders before the main groups come ashore.. thier job is to secure landing zones, spot advanced targets, and provide intellegence for invasion forces...
Seals and Delta are much more speciallized in CQB as well as hostage rescues and ther nasty jobs where a large force is not wanted nor is neccessary. rangers are just the Airborne "Zerg" unit of the US Army. while they do retain command structure under USSOGC command they are still not even close to as elite as the other units and are not special forces when compared with Speznaz, SAS, or any other US SOG group.
you forgot to mention a very very common mission that only SF can do, due to the quick reaction and training needed for the job...
airfield takedowns
please sir just leave this thread...the Rangers are much better trained than regular paratroopers...and if you want to believe that fine...but its far from the truth
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
but what really dissapoints me here is not who is more elite but the lack of information here and a lot of idiots here who say stuff and are completely wrong......
I know a lot about SF and there is a lot of misinformation here
BTW to the moron that staated the rangers are not SF anymore...yeah wow...just go logoff now
sorry for being harsh but do not pretnd to know what you do not
😛
Noob you are a tard... you cannot compare the basic training and paratroop ability the ranger recieve compared to the speciallized training the REAL SOG groups recieve.. they are not even in the same Mission capacity..
you would not send a Ranger Battallion to siege an Oil Rig or to retake a hostage situation or to assasinate someone.. those are jobs of the real CQB experts navy Seals and Delta.. rangers are designed as foward deployed solders before the main groups come ashore.. thier job is to secure landing zones, spot advanced targets, and provide intellegence for invasion forces...
Seals and Delta are much more speciallized in CQB as well as hostage rescues and ther nasty jobs where a large force is not wanted nor is neccessary. rangers are just the Airborne "Zerg" unit of the US Army. while they do retain command structure under USSOGC command they are still not even close to as elite as the other units and are not special forces when compared with Speznaz, SAS, or any other US SOG group.
you forgot to mention a very very common mission that only SF can do, due to the quick reaction and training needed for the job...
airfield takedowns
please sir just leave this thread...the Rangers are much better trained than regular paratroopers...and if you want to believe that fine...but its far from the truth
No i didnt fail to mention that mission which is covered under what I said.
10 years US Navy including Desert Sheild/Storm here worked with SOG grps on several occasions and am very familiar with the various duties of each unit.
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
but what really dissapoints me here is not who is more elite but the lack of information here and a lot of idiots here who say stuff and are completely wrong......
I know a lot about SF and there is a lot of misinformation here
BTW to the moron that staated the rangers are not SF anymore...yeah wow...just go logoff now
sorry for being harsh but do not pretnd to know what you do not
😛
Noob you are a tard... you cannot compare the basic training and paratroop ability the ranger recieve compared to the speciallized training the REAL SOG groups recieve.. they are not even in the same Mission capacity..
you would not send a Ranger Battallion to siege an Oil Rig or to retake a hostage situation or to assasinate someone.. those are jobs of the real CQB experts navy Seals and Delta.. rangers are designed as foward deployed solders before the main groups come ashore.. thier job is to secure landing zones, spot advanced targets, and provide intellegence for invasion forces...
Seals and Delta are much more speciallized in CQB as well as hostage rescues and ther nasty jobs where a large force is not wanted nor is neccessary. rangers are just the Airborne "Zerg" unit of the US Army. while they do retain command structure under USSOGC command they are still not even close to as elite as the other units and are not special forces when compared with Speznaz, SAS, or any other US SOG group.
you forgot to mention a very very common mission that only SF can do, due to the quick reaction and training needed for the job...
airfield takedowns
please sir just leave this thread...the Rangers are much better trained than regular paratroopers...and if you want to believe that fine...but its far from the truth
No i didnt fail to mention that mission which is covered under what I said.
10 years US Navy including Desert Sheild/Storm here worked with SOG grps on several occasions and am very familiar with the various duties of each unit.
then if it is covered (which it is not) under what you said then you are completely wrong
ANYONE who even knows SF at all and not some hollywood fan etc knows you wouldn't send a delta or seal platoon to capture an airfield....Dboys and Seals are not trained to work as a large unit in quick reaction forces...thus thats where the rangers come in...
and do not een try to say that the marines could do what the rangers can or something like that
face it...you are wrong...the rangers are SF and that is that....if you would like me to elucidate the 99million reasons why I will be happy to, for you and everyone else that can see this pwnage of an ignorant misinformed member who thinks he is right
Originally posted by: CVSiN
you also got to remember.. these units all have DIFFERENT MISSIONS they are trained to fill..
they are not the same and never pretended to be.. so you cannot compare them..
they all have different tactics and missions they are tasked with.
rangers are not technically SOG anymore.. they are just paratroopers and that doesnt make them SOG.
the 3 US SOG groups are Marine Force Recon, US Navy Seals (Top group is Seal Team 6,) US Army Green Berets (with thier top echelon being Delta)
http://www.globalspecialoperations.com/sf.html#Detachment-D
not putting down anyone that may have served as a ranger but they are not in the same league as the true SOG groups.
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
but what really dissapoints me here is not who is more elite but the lack of information here and a lot of idiots here who say stuff and are completely wrong......
I know a lot about SF and there is a lot of misinformation here
BTW to the moron that staated the rangers are not SF anymore...yeah wow...just go logoff now
sorry for being harsh but do not pretnd to know what you do not
😛
Noob you are a tard... you cannot compare the basic training and paratroop ability the ranger recieve compared to the speciallized training the REAL SOG groups recieve.. they are not even in the same Mission capacity..
you would not send a Ranger Battallion to siege an Oil Rig or to retake a hostage situation or to assasinate someone.. those are jobs of the real CQB experts navy Seals and Delta.. rangers are designed as foward deployed solders before the main groups come ashore.. thier job is to secure landing zones, spot advanced targets, and provide intellegence for invasion forces...
Seals and Delta are much more speciallized in CQB as well as hostage rescues and ther nasty jobs where a large force is not wanted nor is neccessary. rangers are just the Airborne "Zerg" unit of the US Army. while they do retain command structure under USSOGC command they are still not even close to as elite as the other units and are not special forces when compared with Speznaz, SAS, or any other US SOG group.
Originally posted by: So
Air Force. 😛
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: So
Air Force. 😛
Para Rescue is about the toughest sf unit to make.
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: So
Air Force. 😛
Para Rescue is about the toughest sf unit to make.
Originally posted by: frankgomez75
Anyone know whats the name of the military unit that the U.S. govt will not acknowledge if caught?