Delta Force vs. Navy SEAL's vs Rangers.... who would win * POLL *

[Train]

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Son of a N00b

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: melchoir
Marine Force Recon?

FTW!

Most people have never heard of them though. I was on a float once and watched the Force Recon guys punk on the seals for fun, it was pretty funny. These guys are like finley tuned maniacs.

Force recon is the only elite unit not under Socom, because socom is a central command, considered to react "too slow". They are pretty much on thier own level.

within 48 hours of Sept 11th the US already had forces in Afghanistan. It wasn't the Seals, or Delta force, or the Rangers. It was Force Recon

ding ding ding BS fact makeruper alert ding ding ding


wow no it was not...it was actually a team of CIA contractors (notice I said contractorrs) who contained all former delta force members...then it was contingents of Seal Team 2 and also Seal Team 4 if IRRC...the green eberets were actually much more heavily envlolved in afgan. because it is more of their specialty than deltas...

fact makeruper? The whole mission was declassified a year later and well documented in the Marine Corps Gazette. I will link to it if I can find it online. Wheres your information from?

LOL the marine corps always has that progaganda BS in their newspapers...my borther is one and he is first to admit it

Go read the book Hunting the Jackal, and SF in Afganistan, a goverment published book

An after action report is not propoganda. And its not a "newpaper" its a professional journal.

LOL they don't publish the actual after action report in the journel

AND has it occured to you that other things may have not been declassified!

hello mcfly

ahh so your paperback is where they published the classified info then?

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: SilentZero

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: So
Air Force. 😛

Para Rescue is about the toughest sf unit to make.

lol

About 10% of the people trying out make it. Their training is intense. I'm not joking.

Yeah but for every 200 people that try out for pararescue, there are about 5000 trying to get into the army SF. At my last unit they send practically 95% of all men who were not on profile and could pass the APFT to the SFAS (assessment and selection portion). And I was in a large unit. 😉 Can't speak for the Navy and marines, but I assume their tryout rate is extremely large as well. That and of course the basic and daily training the Air Force recieves is hardly close to the training the marines and army must endure. I was in a joint command the last year of my service and while we ran 4+ miles a day and did PT twice daily (flak vest, rifle and sometimes MOP 4 PT in the morning, and regular PT in the afternoon), the Air Force personel went to the gym on the base 3 times a week to workout on their own, with the occassional 2 mile run every few weeks. I am surprised that even 10% made it through pararescue school.

It's not the level of PT that kills you in pararescue school, it's the water training where they nearly drown you (literally). Since they have to perform water rescues in horrible surf, they need to be able to function even when ingesting water, not something most people can get accustomed to. While your average USAF member isn't in terrific shape (it's getting better with the new fitness test, which is still fairly easy), the elite folks like PJs could hold their own against the other services. Also, apart from active conflicts like Iraq and Afghanistan, PJs rely more on their physical fitness on a daily basis than the others do simply because they have a significant peacetime mission as well.

PJs aren't the same "special ops" as the others in this thread because their mission is very particular and not offensive in nature. The AF equivalents, and that's questionable, are Combat Controllers who, again, have a very specialized mission.

But none of these are getting ANYWHERE without USAF aircraft. Even the SOAR needs Combat Shadows for long missions.

 

[Aquaman]

JTF 2 for the snipers 😉

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[AmphibSailor]

AndrewR said:

"Special operations" is a designation, which is why there are components of the Marine Corps which are listed as "special operations capable" but are not necessarily full time within USSOCOM.

The marines earn their designation as part of an expeditionary group. When the US sends a big deck (such as an LHD) overseas...the big deck carries a about 2000 marines that have been certified as special operations capable....That designation does not mean they are part of a SOG.😉

 

[AmphibSailor]

Originally posted by: TallBill
Rangers and seals are same branch...

???? Not sure what you mean. Seals are Navy. Rangers are Army.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

I vote for the Starship Troopers.

 

[dr150]

Red Cell > *

 

[IAteYourMother]

United States Army wins

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Aquaman
JTF 2 for the snipers 😉

Cheers,
Aquaman

JTF-2 ftw!