Dell UltraSharp U2410 for $479.20

[Zebo]

Is it worth it? Of course, only you (and your eyeballs) can decide for certain. Unfortunately there's no way to see a sample unless your neighbour has one...

To my mind spending a thousand dollars on an NEC LCD2490WUXi (mark 1) is worth it -- I just can't afford it (though if only I hadn't stopped playing the equities markets last spring... I missed out on the greater portion of the rally, ugh). You're likely to get a superb IPS display, 1920x1200, and sRGB.

At the opposite spectrum, I think the Dell 2209WA and NEC EA231WMi are also 'worth it', at least at their more insanely cheap prices ($200ish for the Dell, under $300 for the NEC). They're so cheap, as long as there isn't awful colour uniformity, conspicuous dead pixels, etc, you're getting a great deal. Also both displays are sRGB so you needn't worry about compensating for wide gamut colour.

The mid-price Dell U2410 and HP LP2475w are more problematic. They're relatively affordable, yes, but that also seems to translate into a greater proportion of dodgy panels than, say, the thousand-dollar NECs. Which perhaps is unavoidable at this price range. Yes, panel defects are usually LG.Display's fault, but to obtain IPS panels at these prices, Dell and HP probably agreed to accept a certain quality distribution, whereas NEC (and perhaps Apple) likely get 'first pick'. This is probably why Dell et al are refusing to replace certain uneven panels by claiming they are within spec.

Myself, I've not decided yet. I want to buy the Dell U2410 -- really prefer 16:10 to 16:9, but I worry about the wide gamut, as well as the dithering in sRGB mode. Yes, if one stays with the wide gamut modes, the dithering is avoided, but even if you make an appropriate colour profile to compensate for the wide gamut, many apps aren't able to read the profile, even as we enter the second decade of the 21st century.

If Dell doesn't provide an adequate fix for the sRGB dithering soon, I suspect I'll buy the NEC EA231WMi the next time it falls below $300. I'd regret the loss of the vertical pixels, but I would also be getting sRGB colour and a finer dot pitch.

Nice - you indeed get what you pay for with monitors. I had to learn hard way when LCD's came out after coming off Trinitrons. Went through dozens - from cheap to mid range before finding NEC IPS's. Unfortunately there is no replacement but Dells are a great bang for the buck. I hate being a monitor snob and wish I could be satistifed with $150 TN's I see here all the time.

< NEC 20WMGX2 & LCD2490WUXi Owner

 

[bludragoon]

My sony gdm f500r needs rework and i havent found a lcd that comes close in anyway. Seems like the only benefit is bulk (less... which I dont care about) and screen size (more...which is great). Seems like tn panels have all the speed but are awful, for example like this gift gateway 2ms 24 inch 1920x 1200 FHD 2401 (which really is good for a TN). I thinking of trading this for the dell...

And these ip panels that have at least bearable display characteristics, but are really slow. Has anybody seen this model with games say like empire TW and video playback? And was it acceptable?

 

[Zebo]

My sony gdm f500r needs rework and i havent found a lcd that comes close in anyway.

You won't either. All LCD have lag, all LCD have motion blur. Color, contrast, viewing angles an IPS like this dell will be closest.

 

[AMCRambler]

Why aren't these Dell 24in monitors getting any cheaper? I bought a used 24inch Dell 5 years ago for $500. Nowadays, you can by a 37 inch lcd tv with a DVI hookup for that kind of money. Yeah I know the resolution is lower, but still, at 1080p that's pretty darn nice. Is this an led monitor or something?

 

[Winterpool]

When the HP LP2475w was first released in the States (late summer 2008), it generally cost over $600. The Dell U2410 is arguably a better monitor and has often been available for close to $500 since its release this summer. Before the HP LP2475w, 23 to 24-inch IPS displays from major brands tended to cost closer to $1000: about $800 for the 23-inch Apple Cinema Display and over $1000 for the NEC LCD2490WUXi.

Meanwhile the 1920x1080 23-inch NEC EA231WMi has been available for less than $300 briefly.

I think this rate of price deflation is quite acceptable. The problem is that it seems it may be too fast, and that LG.Display isn't capable of making large numbers of acceptable IPS panels at these prices. This may be giving rise to the complaints regarding panel uniformity in many of this year's cheaper / mid-priced IPS displays.

It's difficult comparing TVs to qualite computer monitors. The TV market is much more competitive first of all, whereas there is a limited market (and few players) in the higher-end IPS and PVA computer-display sector. I also suspect there may be a big difference between making 32-inch or more 1920x1080 LCDs, and 24-inchers with similar resolution (and 30-inch computer monitors boast 2560x1600 pixels!). I've only seen one IPS telly (Panasonic, 32-inch IPS Alpha panel), the other HDTVs I've seen have all been PVA panel or plasma, so I can't say much about IPS TV quality v IPS computer monitors.

 

[Craig234]

For a gaming monitor, between this, the LG W3000H ($1150, wait for a discount), and waiting for some nice new 24" LED LCD... which? Or something else? (Or am I just going to get another CRT).

 

[Bas2000]

How does this compare to the US2408WFP? I just paid $400 for my 2408WFP and I'm still within the return period. Is this worth the extra money and exchange hassle?

what's the return period for the 2408WFP? Thanks

 

[Athena]

what's the return period for the 2408WFP? Thanks

I think it depends on which channel you use to buy it. The return period for the Home division is 21 days and 30 days from Small Business.

Be aware that the Home division will assess a restocking fee...that you will have to fight to get back after you return it.

 

[brianmanahan]

holy thread necro batman.

but this monitor does look good, i want one.

 

[Cheesetogo]

Does the U2410 have the "sparkly" anti glare coating that some of Dell's other monitors do? My 3007WFP and 2007FP panels both have it, and while they're really nice, the coating is a rather noticeable detriment to the quality IMO.

 

[Cheesetogo]

I think it depends on which channel you use to buy it. The return period for the Home division is 21 days and 30 days from Small Business.

Be aware that the Home division will assess a restocking fee...that you will have to fight to get back after you return it.

I bought a 2408 through small business a couple of years ago, and they charged me a restocking fee when I returned it for a refund (didn't like the input lag). Did they change their policy?

Edit: Nevermind, I actually just had to pay for shipping.

 

[Winterpool]

Does the U2410 have the "sparkly" anti glare coating that some of Dell's other monitors do? My 3007WFP and 2007FP panels both have it, and while they're really nice, the coating is a rather noticeable detriment to the quality IMO.

Ha! There was a general Dell U2410 thread... somewhere.

To answer your question, yes, there's the sparkly, dusty anti-glare coating on the Dell U2410. All matte IPS displays have it to some extent, but generally, it seems Dell applies it thickest (though the old Apple Cinema Displays may have been worse). The new HP ZR24w appears to be somewhat less offensive in this aspect.

By the way, the current Dell coupon '0MPT23W5NG5QFP' will obtain a pre-tax price of $469 US for the Dell U2410.

 

[Cheesetogo]

Ha! There was a general Dell U2410 thread... somewhere.

To answer your question, yes, there's the sparkly, dusty anti-glare coating on the Dell U2410. All matte IPS displays have it to some extent, but generally, it seems Dell applies it thickest (though the old Apple Cinema Displays may have been worse). The new HP ZR24w appears to be somewhat less offensive in this aspect.

By the way, the current Dell coupon '0MPT23W5NG5QFP' will obtain a pre-tax price of $469 US for the Dell U2410.

Ugh, terrible. I don't understand why Dell puts such a strong application on their displays -- I've used a lot of matte LCDs, and none have been nearly as bad as Dell. I've gotten somewhat used to it with mine, but every time I look at my brother's 20WMGX2, the clarity makes me want to cry.

 

[Winterpool]

Latest coupon ('$1J56T82R58HBS') will obtain a pre-tax price of $449.10 US. Expires today.

 

[Winterpool]

Okay, it's possible one could get the price down to $431 by applying two coupons. Sign up for Dell Small Business (a new account) and wait for the 20 per cent coupon. It seems this will be deducted from the $599 full retail price, not the usual $499. Then apply a 10 per cent coupon (if not the above, then also try 'J3$5B30MDZ8?FG').

 

[FatalFlaw]

I currently have the 2407 ultrasharp and consider to be one of the best purchases I've ever made. It cost me $650 at the time and the thought of getting this for ~$450 is kind of tempting.

Has anyone used both and can give me some input on how they compare? I'd really like to use my 2407 and the 24010 in a dual monitor setup. I'm trying real hard to justify this to myself right now.

-Fatal_Flaw

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Okay, it's possible one could get the price down to $431 by applying two coupons. Sign up for Dell Small Business (a new account) and wait for the 20 per cent coupon. It seems this will be deducted from the $599 full retail price, not the usual $499. Then apply a 10 per cent coupon (if not the above, then also try 'J3$5B30MDZ8?FG').

Oh man, I told myself I'd get this if it went on sale but IDK... Did this sparkle effect everyone complains about ever get any better? I kinda wonder what the point of spending this kind of money on a good monitor is if they slaughter the IQ by slathering spackle all over it.

 

[Stoneburner]

Sorely tempted! The HP zrw24 or whatever appears to be the same panel though.. and cheaper.

I dont need either!

 

[GoodRevrnd]

I want to know what stupid facility Dell has in Nevada that made me have to pay tax on this order. -.-

 

[borisvodofsky]

Do these monitors still lag the shits because of the scalar chip? or do they have a bypass for dvi now?:hmm:

 

[bankster55]

heres a review that coincidentally came out today
might want to read about the A00 version of the panel
something to look out for

http://www.kitguru.net/peripherals/monitors/zardon/dell-ultrasharp-u2410-monitor-review-a00/5/

 

[jacion]

I picked up one of these a couple weeks ago, best looking monitor I've ever came across. Was going to get it from Dell when they had it for $80 off, but I ended up buy.com avoiding taxes and shipping.

Gaming CRT lovers? Yeah me too, but this thing is so big and beautiful, you'll find something else to do that doesn't require the speed of a CRT. For a while. Now I'm thinking about putting 2 my old 22" CRT and this monster both on my desk so I can play a little UT2004. For everything else with U2410 is great, even plays my old games at 640x480 without and doesn't have that non-native resolution nasty as bad as other I have seen. Just make sure you run it in aspect mode.

 

[bjamm2]

I currently have the 2407 ultrasharp and consider to be one of the best purchases I've ever made. It cost me $650 at the time and the thought of getting this for ~$450 is kind of tempting.

Has anyone used both and can give me some input on how they compare? I'd really like to use my 2407 and the 24010 in a dual monitor setup. I'm trying real hard to justify this to myself right now.

-Fatal_Flaw

I have a 2405 that i paid over $800 for. The colors/brightness on this one are much better. Wish I had 2 of these now at the same price i paid for the one!.