I feel so ignorant. There are LED monitors? VA panels? I sure agree with you about vibrant colors being most important for gaming (well, with good resolution, no pixelation etc.)
I've suddenly got no idea what top gaming monitors are, other than my favorote old CRT's (like the Sony 24" I'm using).
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I ordered on Saturday and I had to call on Tuesday morning to get them to send me a confirmation email that they actually had been purchased. It still hasn't shown up in my bank's statement, nor have I received a tracking #, but the email said I would receive them by this coming Monday. Not sure how that works out with no tracking nor them debiting my credit card. Weird, cause Dell has always been good about this in the past...
Edit: I still never received the confirmation email, but I logged into my account on Dell's site and it says it's shipping and the tracking numbers say it'll come in tomorrow. Can't wait
Got em both last Friday. No dead pixels, great color quality, super bright (had to turn it down a bunch actually).
If you're willing to spend the money, the more expensive dells are the way to go. Just like so many products, there are varying levels of quality in lcd monitors. Quality, in this case, is not necessarily related to its construction and whether it'll fall apart soon, but rather to image quality - color, speed, etc. One could spend much time learning the subtleties but I've found the high-end dell's rarely disappoint. I recently needed a couple of 24" monitors and saved some money getting them from asus. Quality sucks and there's at least one stuck pixel.
An alternative to a 30" might be two, vertically oriented 24"ers. I use a 24" in normal orientation and an older 20" (1600x1200) in vertical orientation (for browsing).
Have we seen an actual colorimeter evaluation of the U2410 yet? The 2408WFP is quite accurate, I can't imagine the U2410 is that drastic a difference (assuming some idiot didn't jack up the settings on the 2408).
I've just recommended the 2408WFP to someone for color-sensitive work, if the U2410 is legitimately better I'm willing to change the recommendation but I want to see colorimeter numbers.
Viper GTS
I've just recommended the 2408WFP to someone for color-sensitive work, if the U2410 is legitimately better I'm willing to change the recommendation but I want to see colorimeter numbers.
Viper GTS
I guess the main choice for me for gaming/browsing would be a 30" (the LG W3000H has been called the best pick) or a top 24" (not sure which one).
My Sony is great for some things - the basic color vibrancy, no pixelation, no lag (CRT) - but sometimes the browsing text is not as clear as I'd like, hard to read small light blue.
There are different qualities of 30" monitors. Price is a good indication. A couple of years ago the choice was between the high-end dell and hp. I believe dell also made a 'not-so-good' 30" for a while. If the eyes aren't as good as they used to be, a 27" with a bigger pixel might be worth considering.
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Coupon available once more. Code 'D8JCZ8T7RL5NF4' (lasts for the next week) will discount 10 per cent from the current discounted price, yielding an ultimate pretax price of $494.10. Not quite as good as last time, I know.
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A coupon cutting the price down to $479.20 is once again active: 'D646ZXM2C$4?VW'. Code may last until 30th December.
I may never say a bad word about Dell again. They couldn't/wouldn't let me add the coupon on the current order (Home/Home Office), but they did let me cancel it, and I just put it through the SB side. Hallelujah!
I'm in the final stages of putting together an Eyefinity rig, and the goal is to end up with 3x U2410. I've been waiting for a deal like this and I'm ready to jump. When I add all 3 U2410s to the cart and apply the coupon, though, I'm only getting the discount on one of the monitors; the other two are at full price. That seems rather silly. Am I really going to have to place three separate orders? Somebody tell me I'm doing this wrong and there's a more sensible solution.
Of course I suppose the most sensible solution would be for me to get on the phone with Dell and see if a live person can help me out, which is exactly what I'll be doing tomorrow morning.
I assume this discount is being provided to clear out inventory in anticipation of the arrival of the new U2711s that will be announced at the CES. Wonder what price point those will be introduced at?
Of course I suppose the most sensible solution would be for me to get on the phone with Dell and see if a live person can help me out, which is exactly what I'll be doing tomorrow morning.
I assume this discount is being provided to clear out inventory in anticipation of the arrival of the new U2711s that will be announced at the CES. Wonder what price point those will be introduced at?
Can anyone comment on the dithering and pink tint issues?
Are they deal killers? From what I have read the monitor is outstanding but I am not sure if the complaints are justified.
Are they deal killers? From what I have read the monitor is outstanding but I am not sure if the complaints are justified.
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As I said, pink tint/dithering is pretty much a non-issue. I don't see why Hardocp users are making such a fuss over it. First of all, stop using pre-set modes, and calibrate the monitor yourself. That'll solve the dithering 'issue' since the sRGB and aRGB profile is the only one that is affected.
As for pink tint, I don't see it on either of my U2410, but Dell says it's LG manufacturing issue not theirs, so it'll be a while before this gets solved (I don't see any pink tint on mine).
I'd like to know that too. It's been several months since I received any coupon codes from Dell. I have to keep an alert active at Techbargains to find out what is going on.
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Worth every penny if you can't afford the NEC LCD2490WUXI2 - i.e. the best 24. It's same screen only without all the features, the biggest being the A-TW polarizer so it is a bit grainier and blacks won't look as perfect viewed off angle.
But then again $479 vs $900... I think both are worth it. Monitors last 7-10 years, and that's your entire interface, so they should be your most investment.
But then again $479 vs $900... I think both are worth it. Monitors last 7-10 years, and that's your entire interface, so they should be your most investment.
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Is it worth it? Of course, only you (and your eyeballs) can decide for certain. Unfortunately there's no way to see a sample unless your neighbour has one...
To my mind spending a thousand dollars on an NEC LCD2490WUXi (mark 1) is worth it -- I just can't afford it (though if only I hadn't stopped playing the equities markets last spring... I missed out on the greater portion of the rally, ugh). You're likely to get a superb IPS display, 1920x1200, and sRGB.
At the opposite spectrum, I think the Dell 2209WA and NEC EA231WMi are also 'worth it', at least at their more insanely cheap prices ($200ish for the Dell, under $300 for the NEC). They're so cheap, as long as there isn't awful colour uniformity, conspicuous dead pixels, etc, you're getting a great deal. Also both displays are sRGB so you needn't worry about compensating for wide gamut colour.
The mid-price Dell U2410 and HP LP2475w are more problematic. They're relatively affordable, yes, but that also seems to translate into a greater proportion of dodgy panels than, say, the thousand-dollar NECs. Which perhaps is unavoidable at this price range. Yes, panel defects are usually LG.Display's fault, but to obtain IPS panels at these prices, Dell and HP probably agreed to accept a certain quality distribution, whereas NEC (and perhaps Apple) likely get 'first pick'. This is probably why Dell et al are refusing to replace certain uneven panels by claiming they are within spec.
Myself, I've not decided yet. I want to buy the Dell U2410 -- really prefer 16:10 to 16:9, but I worry about the wide gamut, as well as the dithering in sRGB mode. Yes, if one stays with the wide gamut modes, the dithering is avoided, but even if you make an appropriate colour profile to compensate for the wide gamut, many apps aren't able to read the profile, even as we enter the second decade of the 21st century.
If Dell doesn't provide an adequate fix for the sRGB dithering soon, I suspect I'll buy the NEC EA231WMi the next time it falls below $300. I'd regret the loss of the vertical pixels, but I would also be getting sRGB colour and a finer dot pitch.
To my mind spending a thousand dollars on an NEC LCD2490WUXi (mark 1) is worth it -- I just can't afford it (though if only I hadn't stopped playing the equities markets last spring... I missed out on the greater portion of the rally, ugh). You're likely to get a superb IPS display, 1920x1200, and sRGB.
At the opposite spectrum, I think the Dell 2209WA and NEC EA231WMi are also 'worth it', at least at their more insanely cheap prices ($200ish for the Dell, under $300 for the NEC). They're so cheap, as long as there isn't awful colour uniformity, conspicuous dead pixels, etc, you're getting a great deal. Also both displays are sRGB so you needn't worry about compensating for wide gamut colour.
The mid-price Dell U2410 and HP LP2475w are more problematic. They're relatively affordable, yes, but that also seems to translate into a greater proportion of dodgy panels than, say, the thousand-dollar NECs. Which perhaps is unavoidable at this price range. Yes, panel defects are usually LG.Display's fault, but to obtain IPS panels at these prices, Dell and HP probably agreed to accept a certain quality distribution, whereas NEC (and perhaps Apple) likely get 'first pick'. This is probably why Dell et al are refusing to replace certain uneven panels by claiming they are within spec.
Myself, I've not decided yet. I want to buy the Dell U2410 -- really prefer 16:10 to 16:9, but I worry about the wide gamut, as well as the dithering in sRGB mode. Yes, if one stays with the wide gamut modes, the dithering is avoided, but even if you make an appropriate colour profile to compensate for the wide gamut, many apps aren't able to read the profile, even as we enter the second decade of the 21st century.
If Dell doesn't provide an adequate fix for the sRGB dithering soon, I suspect I'll buy the NEC EA231WMi the next time it falls below $300. I'd regret the loss of the vertical pixels, but I would also be getting sRGB colour and a finer dot pitch.
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