Dell 2005FPW Monitor - S-Video & Aspect Ratio Questions

ExcaliburDragon

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Nice monitor so far (just got it a few days ago). I see a fair amount of backlight in evidence in the four corners when the screen is black, but don't notice it otherwise. I've heard varied things as to whether or not that's intended or faulty.

Anyhow, my real questions right now are not about that. They're about the SVIDEO connection and more specifically the resulting picture.

I have a Playstation (1, the original) hooked into the SVIDEO connector right now, and I can't seem to find a mode where the picture looks... correct. I understand televisions are generally more forgiving for things like picture -quality- (jagged edges and such), but in this case, the aspect ratio just doesn't seem right, no matter which Scaling option I choose on the monitor.

If I choose Fill, the picture is edge to edge, but somewhat squashed vertically (though interestingly, not VERY much so).

If I choose Aspect, the picture is edge to edge horizontally, but horribly squashed vertically.

If I choose 1:1, the picture is pretty much a smaller version of Aspect, only in the center of the screen.

Am I misunderstand the aspect ratio the Playstation (and presumably other video game sources) put out? I assumed it would be 4:3, more or less, so would work just fine in Aspect (which I thought was supposed to fill -vertically-) and 1:1.

My experience with 4:3 (or perhaps a better term would be Non-Widescreen) games (via PC) on the monitor has basically been positive. I can stretch the image to fill (not preferred for me), or I can have a 'true resolution' image centered on the screen, or I can have an image that's filled vertically, but with black bars on the left & right. That works as expected and looks fine.

I presumed the SVIDEO input worked this way as well, but it seems it does not?

The only other thing I can add is that a PIP screen of the SVIDEO input looks much more natural in aspect than any of the full screen options, but obviously is limited to the size of the PIP window (even at its largest setting).

I'm a bit frustrated by this, unless I'm just not setting something correctly.

Does anyone have any thoughts or advice (or flat-out knowledge/know-how) on this? Thanks a bunch.


EDIT - For the 1:1 example above, the actual physical image displayed on my screen is about 7 inches wide and 2.5 inches tall. That should give you a good idea of the strange aspect ratio at work here. The Aspect option yields a similar AR, only filling the screen left to right.
 

batmanuel

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I think there is an issue with the pixel sizes.

Television pixels are skinny rectangles, while monitors have square pixels. Unless you have a piece of software like a TV capture or video editing application to fix the aspect ratio before the image is displayed onscreen, raw playstation video intended for a TV will look "fat" because what was a skinny rectangle has suddenly turned into a square on the computer monitor.

The monitor is probably just sending the signal straight through without modifying the pixel size and thus you wind up with the vertically squished look to the picture. Unless there is an option to modify the pixel size in the monitor menu, there probably isn't any way to make the image look 100% correct.
 

CTrain

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Yeah, I have the monitor and the pictures just doesn't seem right.
I hook up the DVD to the S-video and it looks blurry closeup. It seems like the picture is blown up to fit the screen or something.
I played around with those mode too and it didn't help.
I just assuming that this monitor was meant for computer and if you want to use it as a TV or monitor source, it just won't look as good as a normal TV.

ANyone else with a 2005FPW that can enlighten us ??
I love it as a computer monitor and watching TV. DVD. etc as a PIP but when used it for the full display, just doesn't look good.
 

ExcaliburDragon

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No offense intended to any who have replied (and thank you for doing so - I was beginning to think my thread would be ignored), but I'm just wondering... what would the point of a SVIDEO/composite input be on a monitor, if the picture is going to come in distorted no matter what? That seems like a shoddy feature at best, and I can't imagine that's the -intent-.

Is it? I mean, if any likely composite or SVIDEO sources are going to be in a 4:3 aspect ratio, but it's always going to display them at approx. 8.4:3 instead? That sounds outright broken, otherwise what's the point?

As near as I can tell right now:

TV = 1.33333:1
2005FPW = 1.6000:1 (in its native resolution)
SVideo/Composite Input from Playstation (1) = 2.8000:1

It just seems to me like an awful oversight to have the inputs on the monitor, but no actual way to normalize the appearance so it looks right.

Anyone else have experience with this, please? :)

Thanks!

 

batmanuel

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After playing around with the feature on my wife new 2005FPW, and seeing the same thing you are, I tend to think that the TV inputs are basically more of a feature thrown in as an extra selling point. Also, if Dell did go the extra mile to make the monitor capable of displaying a non-distorted video input, it might cut into the sales of their LCD television line. I think they just wanted to throw everything including the kitchen sink into the high-end FP line, even if it didn't completely work right.
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: batmanuel
After playing around with the feature on my wife new 2005FPW, and seeing the same thing you are, I tend to think that the TV inputs are basically more of a feature thrown in as an extra selling point. Also, if Dell did go the extra mile to make the monitor capable of displaying a non-distorted video input, it might cut into the sales of their LCD television line. I think they just wanted to throw everything including the kitchen sink into the high-end FP line, even if it didn't completely work right.

Yeah, good point about cutting into their LCD TV line.
I mean I was looking into buying their 19" LCD TV for a while as it would be a good bedroom TV and computer monitor.
Then I see this new 20" monitor that can also be used as a TV source, so I'm like why spent more money and get 19" instead of 20".
I was convinced when I saw the 2005fpw displaying a DVD source and thought it looked good.
Now that I have it, the DVD picture on this monitor just doesn't look as good as on a LCD TV.
Far away, it looks good though.
 

CTrain

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I think we need to come to a conclusion that this monitor is mainly a computer monitor first, TV second.
The picture quality will not be as good as a LCD TV or it could but it doesn't have controls to adjust it to do so.
It just seems that the 2005fpw just blows the pictures up to fit the picture and that why it doesn't look as good. Where as a HDTV let you chose which picture format, this monitor has NO option.

One thing I noticed will help is go to your IMAGE menu and in the SHARPNESS, change it to 1 instead of the default of 3 and the pictures definately look better.