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Maetryx

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The only money that she got (that we know about) was a salary justified by working on the Big Proposal. So she was a complete drain on the office, producing nothing after the first month or so. It was like free money for her. I think she put in just enough effort on her fake projects to make herself look productive, and then just took us for a ride.

She was always out of the office too. She used our phones like there was no such thing as a phone bill. She would come into work late at night when I was going home. We probably don't know all the damage yet. I think she used the Pittney Bowes postage stamp machine to fake some dates on items that she actually sent late.

She would tell the receptionist she was going to meet a client, then come back in and report what a great meeting she had. The client would be all, "No way, she never stopped by!"

And you know, I would get authorities involved but for a couple problems: 1) I have no first hand knowledge personally of her fraudulent behavior. 2) The knowledge I *do* have is 100% trustworthy, but I'm not supposed to have it for confidentiality reasons.

Officially, Ruth resigned for reasons unknown. I'm required to say that to anyone that calls looking for her. "Oh yeah, she doesn't work here anymore. Can someone else help you?" I share with the AT Forum because it's a quasi-anonymous outlet for this wild story, and I think I would explode if I didn't get to tell it to you guys. It's the craziest thing. I never thought I would meet a con-artist, pretender, imposter.

It kills me that she yanked my chain. I would have *REAL* work to do, and she would interrupt me to help her with digital photos for the Big Proposal. We all feel violated. We're squeamish when we think of the actual details of our own personal lives we shared with her, knowing now that we don't know who she is. The times when she held a coworkers baby.....
 

Viper GTS

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The times when she held a coworkers baby.....

Why am I having flashbacks from The Hand That Rocks the Cradle?

:Q

Viper GTS
 

Nitemare

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I don't suppose you could post her pic here, but could you give a description of her just in case so that we can keep an eye out for her?
 

Maetryx

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***This just in***
She's going to sue us.


Ha ha ha ha ha! I know enough to know that she has no chance. Plus she's just lying. Again. (She called our head of HR. She did not have an attorney call.)
 

kranky

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That's a heck of a story.

I seriously doubt that she's a fugitive or a custody case. I would think those people are absolutely NOT going to do anything to call any attention to themselves. As you said, it was inevitable that she would be found out because of the absurdity of her lies, and that's why I think she's just mentally ill.

I have a relative who is a compusive liar - the "lie for no reason" type. She once told her college friends that she lived on a huge farm with a stable of horses and hundreds of acres of property. In reality, while they did live in the country, they had one horse, and about 5 acres. She actually invited about 6 of them to her house during Christmas break to stay in the "guest house" (nope) and go on day-long rides out to their lake (nope again). So a carload of them show up at her house after Christmas, with luggage. But she had gone to spend the week with another relative, leaving her bewildered parents to explain to the friends that she wasn't there, wasn't coming back for a week, there was no guest house, and they didn't have the space to put them up.

Later we found out that when everyone got back to school, she told them they had gone to the wrong house. See, by an amazing coincidence, they ended up at another family's house that had the same last name and also had a daughter with the same name as hers. If they could come in the summer, they'd be able to stay...

Only a mentally ill person would do something like that. The inevitable "being found out" is just an opportunity to come up with an even bigger lie to cover up the first one. She wasn't trying to scam them, or take advantage of them, or try to pull a prank. She was just sick.
 

Maetryx

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Kranky is probably on to something. I think Ruth got all her happiness and satisfaction from decieving people. I'll bet it was orgasmic for her when she would *almost* get caught, but she came up with a bigger lie and got away with it a little longer. Life on the edge.

She would ask me consumer advice on laptops. Then she would say she bought one. She asked me about gaming consoles for her son for Christmas. I told her about the X-Box. She said she went and got one. She said she also bought a boat and a cabin.

I finally said (small talk), "Wow you must be swimming in money!" I didn't mean anything by that. But she came up with a story to "cover" the "suspicion".

****breaking as I type this*****
She's retained an attorney.
 

adinar

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That lady sounds completely wacked, but it resembles what con-artists do....I mean, she did ultimately get what she wanted - paid for doing nothing. That's usually what they do. She totally sounds like two different women that my parents know. One of them my dad rented a condo to - only to find out she never paid her rent for several months (always had an excuse, etc) - after 2 or 3 months, my dad finally kicked her out - only to find out she was wanted by the FBI or the police in a couple different states (she had changed her name, etc) for fraud, hot checks, etc.

Another lady was one of our friends' wife and she was conniving, manipulating, deceitful, and of course a liar. She moved from job to job, never really staying for long at any one place. Just enough to get income & then she was somewhere else. She basically lies so she can get whatever she wants (for example, fakes an injury so she can get a handicapped parking pass), she didn't like what our friend (her husband) did for a living as a handyman so she enrolled him in a computer class & did his assignments/tests for him...it was bizarre.

And there was nothing mentally unstable about these two women...they were actually very bright, very smart women - they knew exactly what they were doing. This lady you were talking about definitely fits the profile.
 

Maetryx

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Yeah, but your stories sound rational compared to a lady that fakes client meetings, fakes calls to clients, and fakes "outpatient minor brain surgery". I mean, her lies weren't even believable at the end. Outpatient minor brain surgery and she did not have to shave her head?

Anyway, she totally destroyed herself (with respect to this company) and if she would have been just a bit more... standard or normal or rational... she could have kept it up for a long time. Hell, she could do the job! The client was happy with the GWDU product (but not the $30k overrun, that they don't have to pay though).

The nerve of having our entire office helping her create a proposal for a non-existent client. She made both our unit manager and our regional vice president look like asses, because they both have stood up in front of their peers and announced this Big Project in the works.

I'm rambling. Thanks for listening, guys.
 

crypticlogin

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With a character like that, I wonder about the attorney or the "attorney." And no worries about the ramblings -- this was probably one of the most worthwhile threads in Off-Topic this past week. :)
 

Maetryx

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Yeah, I check on her... *ahem*.... attorney and she simply SAID she was going to retain one and sue us. Yeah right! We believe you Ruth, just keep talking. Naw, this is her pattern. She's maintaining her far-fetched fictional life by insisting she's an innocent martyr, but the emperor has no clothes.

Her angle is that the doctor's note she was ordered to provide was "singling her out". Because of a company policy, people that are sick a certain number of days MUST provide a doctor's note clearing them to return to work.

Well, she missed that number of days, and so (knowing by now she was a scam artist) the unit manager (by direction of the head of HR) asked that she get such a note from her doctor. So she got the note, but it was not from the doctor that she originally said refered her to out of state minor outpatient brain surgery. Just some other person. The manager asked her about that. She was surprised that he even noticed the discrepancy. "Oh, that's just the physician's assistant."

Once the note was in hand, the firing commenced. Because it was realized that she would sue the company for disability discrimination UNLESS A DOCTOR SAID SHE WAS TOTALLY FIT! So she faked this note and dug her grave. She's got no leg to stand on, because she's got both feet in the grave.

So what's the basis of her "pending lawsuit" (which obviously hasn't materialized yet)? Disability discrimination! Ha ha ha she has no clue she's underwater and sinking. She's claiming she go singled out. Well, no sh!t. She's the one that has claimed sick time for TWO knee surgeries, a hip surgery, breast cancer and minor outpatient brain surgery (MOBS :D ). All in like a 4 month span. And she was never on crutches and she got miraculously better like 2 days later.

I didn't even KNOW she had TWO knee surgeries, the breast canc er, or the hip surgery she healed so fast. She's a hypochondriac, megolomaniac, egomanica, sympathy sponge. And we don't even know her real name.
 

ImTyping

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I had a person who lied like that working for me. I had him arrested for theft; he tried to lie his way out of the arrest and ended up with a year and a day in the state pen...where he was repeatedly raped, I hear.

Sometimes they DO get what they deserve.

I had another person walked out of the business by police officers because of theft in the office, and he told me in front of the Metro-Dade cops that I would have to be carefull or my head might get blown off...the officers informed him in no uncertain terms that if I so much as got a hangnail that they would be busting down his door five minutes later. I decided not to press charges; I just told him that he had better use a high powered rifle 'cause he was never going to get close enough to me to use anything else.
I got a police escort out to my car each night for a month after that.
 
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shoulndt the FBI be doing something to hold her ready. Considering if she faked an SSN, where did she get that from, did she generate one of her own or did she steal someone elses?

I would quietly have your HR person forward copies to the FBI with photographs so the person can be caught for impersanting.
 

Maetryx

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I don't know what criminal investigations are in the works (if any). In reality, I don't know of any civil litigation either, other than second hand originating from an apparent pathological liar. I know that I hold zero sway over the corporations head of HR, but that I trust that head of HR to do what's best for the company, as I've seen that happen a couple of times.

 

Alienwho

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<< *UPDATE!* Ruth and PCResources are getting married! :Q >>


*UPDATE!* Ruth IS PCResources.
 

Muadib

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Ok, I can't take it anymore. What's the deal with PCResources? Is there a link?
 

ElFenix

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wacky... must have something to do with the short days up there.