Decided to return XFX 6950 unopened

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Lifer
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While I have never had one single problem or issue with Nvidia drivers, I have never had any with ATI cards either.

But.....

Since NV is so good with drivers "And I mean that" Then why don't they fix EVGA Precision to where it stops keeping my set fan speeds at startup ?

Drink some coffee man, thats a Evga problem. :)
 

OCGuy

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I purchased a 2nd 5850 hoping with all that I can, that the 5XXX Xfire support is much better than my brother's 2x4870s. Don't let me down AMD! (If anyone running two 5850s or 5870s is around and has an opinion on a good driver to start with, let me know! I will be putting together the rig this weekend)
 

SlowSpyder

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Did you buy it after the 10.3 drivers? I think they were released in the beggining of April.
Thats when the drivers started getting better.
When was the 5xxx series released? October of last year? 5 months with semi-broken drivers. Thats enough to piss anyone off and I KNOW I'm not alone.


I'm not making any excuses for AMD, they should have their act together. But, typically if I buy new hardware (new being the 5xxx cards in October 09 or a GTX4xx in May 10 as an example) I wouldn't be shocked to see issues with drivers. If I remember correctly, the GTX460 was lambasted pretty hard over it's drivers for a good three or four months after its release. I think there was a lawsuit or some kind of legal action because Nvidia 8xxx drivers were so bad with Vista (new OS, new DX, and new hardware as a combo deal there). I think this can go either way, and I don't see how any of us can claim to know one has better drivers...
 

dlamb2471

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I purchased a 2nd 5850 hoping with all that I can, that the 5XXX Xfire support is much better than my brother's 2x4870s. Don't let me down AMD! (If anyone running two 5850s or 5870s is around and has an opinion on a good driver to start with, let me know! I will be putting together the rig this weekend)

Unfortunately isn't it known that the AMD 6x series is significantly better at scaling for Xfire? I thought the 5x series scaling was pretty much identical to the 4x series scaling.
 

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Lifer
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Well, one of the biggest knocks of years past on AMD/ATI was driver support of their GPU's. AMD now provides greater emphasis on driver improvements. Obviously resources are not unlimited and AMD's drivers are by no means perfect but I'd still rate AMD's video decoding support as adequate and it's gaming support as roughly equal with nVidia. Obviously they lack in areas like GPGPU but that's an area most gamers and general users simply won't run into.

It's still ridiculous and an obvious troll post to knock AMD on greater support of their drivers because the other end of the spectrum (which we've been through) is to let their drivers languish by not providing enough support.

Monthly release dates do mean that some bugs in the updated drivers are more likely to slip through the cracks as the hotfixes are mostly meant to be bug fixes prior to the next monthly release. However, as shown with nVidia's "killer drivers", it is not a slam dunk that having a driver released every few months mean it's bug free. nVidia has had to release immediate fixes (similar to the hotfixes) to bugs introduced by new drivers in the past as well.

I agree with most of this.

This is the problem, AMD needs a TWIMTBP program of it's own, no if,ands ,or butts about it.
When they fix something, they need to stop breaking something else on a driver level.
People just get fed up man, ya know what I'm saying?

Last round ,give me a 5750 with nvidia quality drvers and I wouln't even be in this thread but to praise AMD as a whole, not just there hardware.
 
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WaTaGuMp

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I think Antec makes the best drivers in the world. My PSU has ran perfect since buying it.
 

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Lifer
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I purchased a 2nd 5850 hoping with all that I can, that the 5XXX Xfire support is much better than my brother's 2x4870s. Don't let me down AMD! (If anyone running two 5850s or 5870s is around and has an opinion on a good driver to start with, let me know! I will be putting together the rig this weekend)

10.10e I think it was.
 

MentalIlness

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I agree with most of this.

This is the problem, AMD needs a TWIMTBP program of it's own, no if,ands ,or butts about it.
When they fix something, they need to stop breaking something else on a driver level.
People just get fed up man, ya know what I'm saying?

Last round give me a 5750 with nvidia quality drvers and I wouln't even be in this thread but to praise AMD as a whole, not just there harware.

Wouldn't that be Gaming Evolved ? Or whatever they call it.
 

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Lifer
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I'm not making any excuses for AMD, they should have their act together. But, typically if I buy new hardware (new being the 5xxx cards in October 09 or a GTX4xx in May 10 as an example) I wouldn't be shocked to see issues with drivers. If I remember correctly, the GTX460 was lambasted pretty hard over it's drivers for a good three or four months after its release. I think there was a lawsuit or some kind of legal action because Nvidia 8xxx drivers were so bad with Vista (new OS, new DX, and new hardware as a combo deal there). I think this can go either way, and I don't see how any of us can claim to know one has better drivers...

Good point with the gtx460, but most of those issues were fixed by the second driver release and I dont remember any real problems with the gtx480/470/465.

The 58xx series was released on Sept.2 2009 and after numerous hotfixes, and 6 dirvers releases people with 3/400$ cards were really getting pissed ,if I remember correctly.
 

Idontcare

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Locking thread until I can confirm this isn't a RBM punking the forum...

Moderator Idontcare


edit: Unlocking thread, pm convo with OP leads me to believe thread is legit.

Moderator Idontcare
 
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NIGELG

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What is an 'RBM'?And what is punking the forums?I've never heard of these terms.
 

Wreckage

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they locked his thread on Hardforum and Kyle had a nice comment for him. http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1036597326&postcount=20

and then they ended on a funny note too. http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1036597407&postcount=33

He's been there 2 years, so it's not like he just showed up. Although, some additional comment would remove a lot of doubt.

EDIT:
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1036597215&postcount=8

I guess he's pissed that the card launched without official drivers being available. I guess I can see that.
 

notty22

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I can't say as I understand the grandiose public decision making, and the follow ups. At more than one forum ? lol
 
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Creig

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A company that gets fixes out to their customers FASTER than their competitor would seem to be a good thing.

:confused:

But that's just me.
 

Rhezuss

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Nice way to start the day!

So as I understand it, OP returned the card because the drivers ALREADY out there did not fully support the HD 6900s on day1/hour1/minute1/second1 but supported it on day2/hour11/minute30/second23...and then exchanging it for a card that is supported by current drivers on day15/hour9/minute25/second17 but was not when it launched on day1/hour1/minute1/second1...
 

Alaska Wolf

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NOT cool. Pathetic. I had a REALLY bad day.

I tired to undo the decision to cancel the order.

Groveling on a legendary level was involved.

The GD card is only a couple of miles away from me. Soon it will be 3 thousand miles away. And sometime around the first of the year it might be back where it's sitting at present, waiting to be delivered.