Dec. Steam Hardware Survey - AMD maintains DX11 dominance at near 80% of the market.

[Grooveriding]

AMD - 77.33%
nvidia - 22.51

Here is a link to the past month's survey: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2124878&highlight=steam

Looks like again minimal adjustment to the DX11 marketshare numbers. It's interesting how much getting to market first has cemented AMD's holding the lionshare of the DX11 market even with all the releases NV has gone forward with, they still cannot make any significant change under their DX11 umbrella.

Looking forward to 28nm cards next year and to see who comes to table first with those releases. My money is on AMD again, particularly if they are going to have Global Foundries as well as TSMC to pull from.

 

[Lonbjerg]

The change is around the sameame as for the last couple of months:

NVIDIA DX11 market cap (steam)

DEC 22,51%
NOV 20,39%
OCT 18,02%
SEP 15,72%
AUG 12,79%

The title should be:
AMD maintain is decrease in DX11 market cap.

You need the past numbers to assert you claim...and the numbers tell the same story...NVIDIA gaining market share ever since they launched their DX11 line.

 

[mosox]

Nvidia continues its pathetic struggle to be relevant in DX11. Champagne for everybody when they hit 25%.

 

[Qbah]

Basic math FTL for both of you...

There's no telling who did better with just those numbers alone. Example:

Nov total numbers:
200k - nVidia = 20%
800k - AMD = 80%
1M - total

Dec - each one sold 100k more - meaning both did the same:
300k - nVidia
900k - AMD
1.2M total - 25% nVidia vs 75% AMD.

If you wanted AMD to have the same % each month, they would need to sell 4x as many cards as nVidia every month (provided a 20% vs 80% split)... With both selling the same amount every month the % numbers will eventually go towards 50/50.

What can be said based on those numbers is that early-to-market does have a huge impact on who owns what. Fermi launched 8 months ago and nVidia doesn't even have a quarter of the market for DX11 yet.

EDIT: It also means that it's impossible to tell who sold more units - we don't know how big in numbers the Steam survey is. nVidia could sell half of what AMD did and still increase their %.

 

[Lonyo]

Can't we just ban these threads?
Having to go through this crap once a month gets boring.

This post is an official request to ban creation of threads about the Steam hardware survey.

 

[sandorski]

Steam survey is a limited view of the Market, although likely a fair view of the PC Gaming Market.

I'd be curious in Sales figures of Cards more, especially a longterm monthly graph starting when AMD released the 5xxx Cards. AMD's biggest advantage may have been their long solitary presence, scooping up a huge portion of the First Generation DX11 Demand leaving only a little for Nvidia.

Not that DX11 Demand is a fixed amount, but there are many who will have bought a DX11 Card simply because it was new with the intention to keep it a few generations/refreshes and AMD was their only choice.

 

[Keysplayr]

Can't we just ban these threads?
Having to go through this crap once a month gets boring.

This post is an official request to ban creation of threads about the Steam hardware survey.

Already reported it as a bait thread. I'd advise you, and anyone else, to do the same if you are so inclined. Maybe we can rid the forums of this eventually.

 

[Borealis7]

we've done this to death. the example was shown that AMD can outsell nV 2:1 and still lose market share. props to whoever made that one, i cant remember who it was though...

absolute numbers are key here. steam is limited survey in a limited community inside a limited market. kthxbye.

 

[-Slacker-]

If we're to trust the steam survey, amd didn't sell any hd 6850's prior to december, which is just "¿lol que?".

 

[Wreckage]

DX11 is 5.6% of the survey


LOL, not something to brag about. ^_^


Total Market

NVIDIA = 59.11%
AMD = 32.98%


Funny the OP left those numbers out.

Carry on.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Amd sure made a good impression with the 5XXX series. I think the release of the 5XXX series turned the company around. Big win for them. Not sure I'd say they are ahead of nvidia at this point but they are right there. I never considered an AMD card before 5XXX series but now I give them a serious look before buying.

 

[heflys]

Total Market

NVIDIA = 59.11%
AMD = 32.98%


Funny the OP left those numbers out.

Hmmm....Where did you get these numbers?

 

[Wreckage]

Hmmm....Where did you get these numbers?

It's the main page of the survey which the OP conveniently forgot to link

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

 

[heflys]

It's the main page of the survey which the OP conveniently forgot to link

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Oh, okay. That's not necessarily an indication of market share, but it is representation of who maintains the lead in number of users; that's definitely Nvidia.

I was confused there for a second.

 

[Lonyo]

It's the main page of the survey which the OP conveniently forgot to link

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

'Unfortunately' those numbers haven't been updated, or the marketshare hasn't changed even 0.1% in the last month.

59.11% Nvidia
32.98% ATI

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30870082&postcount=82
One month ago the numbers were exactly the same, apparently.

A quick Google search suggests that the numbers were also the same before that... in September.

http://www.nicagamerz.com/foro/threads/30502-Steam-confirma-nvidia-es-favorita-por-un-59.11
"lidera la preferencia de hardware nvidia con un 59.11% , le sigue ati con un 32.98% y el resto ...."

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/Steam-Catalyst-DirectX-11-ATI-Radeon,news-34252.html
Another link with the same September information.

So, now we've shown that the overall Steam marketshare numbers are bunk, can we completely ignore them?
Or are we assuming that in the last 3 months there hasn't been even a 0.01% change in NV vs ATI?


And just for kicks, here's a post from you Wreckage:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30391948&postcount=4
It's those August numbers again, and hey, SAME NUMBERS!

Oop, another one. July numbers.
GUESS WHAT THEY ARE!
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/steam-hardwaresoftware-survey-july-2010/9427

Same again... shock horror.

So, from July until December, the marketshare was split
NVIDIA = 59.11%
AMD = 32.98%
Intel: 6.22%
Other: 1.69%

Not a single point move from any company in a 6 month period. Amazing.
So, please don't bring up these figures again Wreckage, OK? Not your fault they are useless, but, well, they are useless.

 

[mnewsham]

apparently about 30% of us torrent too.

µTorrent
29.41%

 

[HeXen]

Oh, okay. That's not necessarily an indication of market share, but it is representation of who maintains the lead in number of users; that's definitely Nvidia.

I was confused there for a second.

don't forget, there are many who do not use Steam...myself included. but i have 580gtx dx11...so add a .0000000001% to that figure:sneaky:
whats funny is, i'm sure if it was say MS Windows or some other company uploading data like this, many of the privacy nuts would be all over it like white on rice. but Steam does it and its ok.

 

[mnewsham]

don't forget, there are many who do not use Steam...myself included. but i have 580gtx dx11...so add a .0000000001% to that figure:sneaky:
whats funny is, i'm sure if it was say MS Windows or some other company uploading data like this, many of the privacy nuts would be all over it like white on rice. but Steam does it and its ok.

I dont like it, that's why i uninstalled steam, if you hadn't noticed they collect data on the programs you are using as well now.

 

[Lonyo]

DX11 is 5.6% of the survey

LOL, not something to brag about. ^_^


Total Market
NVIDIA = 59.11%
AMD = 32.98%


Funny the OP left those numbers out.

Carry on.

Oh, missed a spot.
DX11 isn't 5.6% of the survey. DX11 was 5.6% in May 2010. It says so clearly on that first page graph, which charts DX10/11 etc growth from May 2009 to May 2010. Therefore, DX11 was 5.6% in May 2010, which is rather irrelevant in January 2011, no?
I took a screenshot from the Steam page and highlighted it for you, in case you don't believe me.

CARRY ON

 

[mnewsham]

Oh, missed a spot.
DX11 isn't 5.6% of the survey. DX11 was 5.6% in May 2010. It says so clearly on that first page graph, which charts DX10/11 etc growth from May 2009 to May 2010. Therefore, DX11 was 5.6% in May 2010, which is rather irrelevant in January 2011, no?
I took a screenshot from the Steam page and highlighted it for you, in case you don't believe me.

CARRY ON

In the Dx11 GPU area it claims 15.64% as of december, but who knows how accurate that is.

 

[SlowSpyder]

DX11 is 5.6% of the survey


LOL, not something to brag about. ^_^


Total Market

NVIDIA = 59.11%
AMD = 32.98%


Funny the OP left those numbers out.

Carry on.

Yup, Nvidia dominated for two a couple generations and probably still out sold AMD during the GTX2xx/4xxx days. So the total market will likely be still in Nvidia's favor, not many gamers want to upgrade their cards every generation.

But the DX11 numbers show that, at least with Steam, AMD has captured more of the share lately, AMD is probably out selling Nvidia (at least as far as Steam users are concerned).

So we'll probably slowly see the DX11 numbers inch towards 50/50 (as Nvidia continues to sell DX11 parts). And we may also see the total (Steam) market share inch towards 50/50 (so long as both companies make decent cards and continue to sell parts).

Anyway, it's just Steam numbers, really nothing to get our panties up in a bunch over.

 

[tviceman]

If you compare the gtx400 series cards vs. the hd5800 series cards, Nvidia actually closed the gap considerably (22% vs. 29%). Howver, being so late with the a mediocre value performance card (gts450) allowed the hd5770 and 5750 to mop up the $120-160 price range for a long time and help AMD maintain a volume numbers in dx11 share.

 

[Voo]

whats funny is, i'm sure if it was say MS Windows or some other company uploading data like this, many of the privacy nuts would be all over it like white on rice. but Steam does it and its ok.

Yeah just imagine MS sharing anonymized data from users that opted-in to send them that data. Oh what a horrible imaginat.. oh, they've been doing that for years? Ah well, carry on, no reason to stop someone from ranting, just because facts got in the way.

Also while steam obviously can't be 100% accurate (because they don't have 100% market share of all gamers, not all users share their technical data,..), it's by far the best estimation we can get and I'd be pretty surprised if steam didn't have at least 1/3 overall market share.

 

[-Slacker-]

Funny the OP left those numbers out.

Are you suggesting op is deliberately trying to mislead us, even though the name of the thread clearly refers to dx11 hardware?

 

[postmortemIA]

Are you suggesting op is deliberately trying to mislead us, even though the name of the thread clearly refers to dx11 hardware?

I think it is, next he can write thread how nvdia dominates DX7 market, which is irrelevant and just hides what is important. what is important is that DX11 card is simply not needed for most right now