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Dec 21 2012
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Modelworks
Lifer
It is both.
The dyslexic nuts will die on 12/12 the rest of us the 21 st
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
I believe it will be a pathetic movie and will be full of bad science, and it will take itself far too seriously just like The Day After Tomorrow.
Rubycon
Madame President
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
The Core is so bad it is good, if you're in a Mystery Science Theatre 3000 state of mind. I love how they blamed the power draw of the earthquake generating machine in Alaska for the blackout in the North East or wherever it was (the one they blamed on a tree branch).
Alaska isn't connected to the U.S. power grid. :laugh:
zerocool84
Lifer
No that nod would go to the body building forums.
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
P&N must have some sort of shield around it that prevents all of the stupid from leaking out and contaminating the rest of the world then, otherwise it would have already happened.
tyler811
Diamond Member
Well that is what I am interested in. The things that debunk this story. I really have no faith in the Mayan calender but there are some astromoners that agree with the black hole thing.
I looked it up and most everything points to the end of the world shit. What is the other side of the stick?
ViviTheMage
Lifer
wasn't it supposed to end years ago...so I don't care at all.
What, no mention of sunspots?
I saw on current.tv, and they don't have corporate sponsorship so they never lie, that a huge solar storm will erupt sending out some kind of beta waves that's going to cause all 6+billion people to trip balls as if they had just ingested a massive dose of LSD. Those of us who have prepared spiritually and mentally will be fine, but for the vast majority who have no experience with this sort of mind state, the event will be incredibly traumatic.
2012 is not the end of the world, just the end of an age. A new age is upon is.
I saw on current.tv, and they don't have corporate sponsorship so they never lie, that a huge solar storm will erupt sending out some kind of beta waves that's going to cause all 6+billion people to trip balls as if they had just ingested a massive dose of LSD. Those of us who have prepared spiritually and mentally will be fine, but for the vast majority who have no experience with this sort of mind state, the event will be incredibly traumatic.
2012 is not the end of the world, just the end of an age. A new age is upon is.
destrekor
Lifer
I'm extremely interested in the Mayans, not for their 2012 "prediction", but because they were insane for the time they lived in.
What they knew, it just boggles the mind.
They ended on the 5th baktun (sp?) iirc (not going to go look up full information at the moment, but I've researched it before).
One can argue "why the 5th, and not the 4th, not the 6th, etc etc"... and one can counter argue "maybe they just decided they had reached far enough in time on their calendar and might as well just stop, and wait till around that time to update the calendar."
Perfectly logical to just call it quits. Any time you do, someone else can look at when you quit and go "why stop there? why not earlier, or later?". Every decision can appear extremely illogical, so its not point in trying to decipher that.
But, when you look to the rest of the Mayan knowledge, why the ended the calendar on a Baktun, what the baktuns were... it's kind of crazy how much they knew.
Using just the sky, and what they could figure out using only the sky, they determined the "heavens" would all perfectly line up on the last date of their calendar. The reason we have it pinned at 12-21-2012, is kind of coincidental - the last day is specifically so many years, on the winter solstice. Which on our calendar is 12-21. It happens to fall on our the year 2012 in our calendar. That specific calculation might be a little off if there is actually something specific that is to happen to the world that day.
Judging from the things that they knew at the time, a very astronomically advanced civilization, I like to ponder on the notion they were "gifted" by someone, or some people. So my theory for 12-21-2012 rests solely on the belief of extra terrestrial life having visited us in the past. I don't firmly hold to this, so I mostly look to 2012 with a curious mind. Will something happen? There's a 99% chance nothing will happen. But the way their civilization was set up, the things they believed in, what they knew... it all adds up to an extremely small chance we aren't alone. I'm sticking to that dammit because it gives me some hope for advanced life - that it is possible to travel the universe, it's possible to advance social progress to the point of even leaving the homeworld, and gives my extremely pessimistic attitude toward humanity a nudge into optimistic. It's my own form of religious belief - something to give a little shred of hope to shine a little light on such a dark reality that is life on Earth. This place sucks, humanity sucks, so I need that or I'll go mad. 😛
destrekor
Lifer
Regardless of the tripping balls "theory", and the fact that an extreme solar storm that emitted any kind of crazy particles would probably kill us through radiation before ever gifting us with the trip of all trips -
there is actually a lot of talk about the end of a baktun (sp?) not representing the end of the world, but an end/beginning of a new age.
My little "hope" is that an asteroid or comet will be flung our way, kill quite a few people in the immediate area and people around the world - something of that origin might just be necessary to get us to change our ways. We are going nowhere fast other than to more conflicts across the world. Humans are retarded, cling to old ways, and are extremely tribal in instinct - we want something to belong to. It gives us a feeling of order. Some strive for good lives inside of this order, some have that instinctual urge to lead the charge and have control over that tribe, or of a new tribe.
Either way, it might give us a chance to break from our current ways and establish a new world order. Not in the Orwellian dystopian style, but something that is a single "tribe" spanning the world, and thankfully the one good thing about our various tribal instincts is that people are going to strive to take the charge toward leadership of this, as our nature both dictates some of us want to lead, and some of those want to lead their own new tribe - a split from the patriarchy as their own rights as they mature. So some will fight to keep the old ways, but hopefully something like an asteroid killing off millions if not a few billion would give a world body a fighting chance to take off.
That, and it solves the whole population issue. The world isn't exactly ready to handle the numbers of mammals that we have produced. Food is always an issue, and as soon as nature gets bitchy we are in an extreme crisis, somewhere.
It's time we actually acted like a race, and no better way than for one race to be fighting for survival together, than in sects all apart fighting for their own survival.
It seems to be a primate thing that tribes fight and kill each other to prove dominance over territory. Most animals in the animal kingdom either ignore each other as they all do what they have to do to survive, or actually work together and the only family/tribe conflicts come in the way of the leaders simply fighting or showing they are better at something specific, occasionally but not often leading to death, and only a single animal, not a whole group.
These issues though are kind of necessary though, for the race to learn what is wrong and what is necessary, to get to the next step and mature as a species. We're a learning species. Look at the things we've done, gone "oops, that was a mistake" some time down the road, and learning from it. Eventually, maybe sometime in the future we'll go "oops. our ancestors did this and look where it got us. we're effing retarded."
Global tribe would never work. Human brains can't handle it. There is a relationship between the size of a primates brain and the size of the social group in which that primate will live. Humans are limited to groups of about 150 people or so
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
The earth isn't going anywhere. It will be around long after we are gone.
alkemyst
No Lifer
I have done a lot of reading mostly on christ-jud-muslim-egyptian parallels. History tells one a big part of this all. Reading about Oak Island as a pre-teen started my journey.
The big trick is to know about 90% of this kind of stuff you find on the internet is all based on the same original story. You have to dig deeper and then once you find anything see what else was being reporting at that time in history.
A lot of it also has to do with understanding math and science at a pretty high level...lots of this 'mumbo-jumbo' stuff is easily bought into by laymen, but those that know can see through the BS.
I will say it's the type of subject that's impossible to sanely discuss on an open forum as people are quick to bring up Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, UFO theory, etc....usually those that have done no research at all and are just in fear of these types of things shattering their perception that our leaders have always been for the people.
The most painful thing about this discovery is how little one can do about it.
tyler811
Diamond Member
Your ideals while interesting have been proving wrong thru out history. Dating all back to recorded history man has fought man. Any place or time where one person has more of something then someone else, is a different color, believes in something different or does something differnetly then other person there will be war.
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