Debates Finalized!

JHoNNy1OoO

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Woohooo. I'm excited and everyone should be too. Candidates should open themselves up to more debates but at least they both agreed on the minimum. I myself am going to try to go see the September 30th one here in UM.
 

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This is great news.

Now, for those Dems who kept calling Bush a "chicken" for refusing the 3rd debate, I think it's time y'all made a public apology.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
This is great news.

Now, for those Dems who kept calling Bush a "chicken" for refusing the 3rd debate, I think it's time y'all made a public apology.

Ya, he was no chicken, he only brought in James Baker and tried for over two months to get out of the third.
 

Taggart

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Bush theme for debates: Kerry flip-flops
Kerry theme: Bush is incompetent leader

You don't have to tune in now :)
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
This is great news.

Now, for those Dems who kept calling Bush a "chicken" for refusing the 3rd debate, I think it's time y'all made a public apology.

Ya, he was no chicken, he only brought in James Baker and tried for over two months to get out of the third.
If he didn't want to do it, all he had to do was say no. Kerry never officially accepted either - was he trying to get out of it by hiring whoever his debate management person is? :roll:
 

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There is a cbs reporter acting as moderator for one of the debates. Bushites are objecting to his presence now, watch for cbs to pullout or bush to cancel that debate. Either way, CBS feels the weight of rathergate.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Todd33
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
This is great news.

Now, for those Dems who kept calling Bush a "chicken" for refusing the 3rd debate, I think it's time y'all made a public apology.

Ya, he was no chicken, he only brought in James Baker and tried for over two months to get out of the third.
If he didn't want to do it, all he had to do was say no. Kerry never officially accepted either - was he trying to get out of it by hiring whoever his debate management person is? :roll:

Democratic candidate John Kerry's debate team, led by Washington lawyer Vernon Jordan, agreed in July to three presidential debates and one vice-presidential meeting.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/p...idential-debates_x.htm

They even offered to have one debate a week, but it was turned down. Kerry never tried to get out of any debates, they have been waiting for months for the Bush people to agree to the three. Bush could have said no, but then he would look like he was avoiding the electorate and could not defend his record.
 

CycloWizard

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Bush could have said no but didn't. He didn't try to get out of the debates or he simply wouldn't have agreed. No one would vote any differently if he turned down one debate.

Kerry is no saint for offering a debate a week. He can make such an offer because he doesn't actually do his job. He's like the guy from Office Space - he's not going to quit, he's just not going to go anymore. Some people have work to do and actually do it, and the president doesn't have 99 other people that do the same job that can cover for him.
 

GoPackGo

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But Bush wasn't going to do three debates..especially no town hall meeting!
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Bush could have said no but didn't. He didn't try to get out of the debates or he simply wouldn't have agreed. No one would vote any differently if he turned down one debate.

Kerry is no saint for offering a debate a week. He can make such an offer because he doesn't actually do his job. He's like the guy from Office Space - he's not going to quit, he's just not going to go anymore. Some people have work to do and actually do it, and the president doesn't have 99 other people that do the same job that can cover for him.

yeah a debate a week would really put a dent on bushes record long vacations.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
yeah a debate a week would really put a dent on bushes record long vacations.
:roll:

The triteness of every statement made by an anti-Bush person in this forum is ridiculous to the point of predictability.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Spencer278
yeah a debate a week would really put a dent on bushes record long vacations.
:roll:

The triteness of every statement made by an anti-Bush person in this forum is ridiculous to the point of predictability.

Well don't pretend that Bush is working his ass off. Bush doesn't want weekly debates because he would be unable to get his script writers to write an answer for every question.
 

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Spencer278
yeah a debate a week would really put a dent on bushes record long vacations.
:roll:

The triteness of every statement made by an anti-Bush person in this forum is ridiculous to the point of predictability.

Well don't pretend that Bush is working his ass off. Bush doesn't want weekly debates because he would be unable to get his script writers to write an answer for every question.

Do you really think Kerry writes his material himself?

For god's sake people, they're politicians. They're all identical except for that letter R or D after their name. Quit acting like your candidate is somehow better than the other. They both suck.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
Well don't pretend that Bush is working his ass off. Bush doesn't want weekly debates because he would be unable to get his script writers to write an answer for every question.
I never said Bush was working hard, just that he shows up to work a lot more than Kerry. Oh, and that includes his vacation time. Kerry gets vacations built in to his schedule, yet still misses a completely inordinate number of senate votes.
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
This is great news.

Now, for those Dems who kept calling Bush a "chicken" for refusing the 3rd debate, I think it's time y'all made a public apology.

i was very angry about that backing out.
its a big sore spot for me, i was so angry that there were going to be only two.
now, i dont think i called him a chicken (but...im not going to search for it)
ill still apologize. i am no longer pissed, like i was, that there will only be two debated between them.
and i do apologize; im sure i came off super-emotional about the ordeal.
 

NightCrawler

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Who cares, the debates are already in the can.

Democrats = Kerry won the debates hands down.

Republicans = Bush won the debates hands down.

Undecided = I watched sportscenter !
 

imported_Aelius

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Who cares, the debates are already in the can.

Democrats = Kerry won the debates hands down.

Republicans = Bush won the debates hands down.

Undecided = I watched sportscenter !

You are missing the most important one.

Libertarians = both major parties piss their pants at the thought of having to face one in another debate (therefore MIA)
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: JHoNNy1OoO
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Jeez, could they get any more anal?

Senior Bush and Kerry sources said one of the last things the campaigns were negotiating was how the candidates would get their cues.

A senior Kerry source said the Bush campaign was "hung up" over whether a light or something audible like a buzzer would be used to tell the candidates when their time is up. A Bush official acknowledged that last-minute questions, mostly over the time cue issue, held up the agreement.

Ultimately, a compromise was reached: Timing lights will flash when there are 30 seconds, 15 seconds and five seconds remaining. An audible cue will then go off to note the end of time for a response, and the moderator will step in.

"The audible cue shall be clearly audible to both candidates, the debate audiences and television viewers," the agreement says.
 

JHoNNy1OoO

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: JHoNNy1OoO
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Jeez, could they get any more anal?

Senior Bush and Kerry sources said one of the last things the campaigns were negotiating was how the candidates would get their cues.

A senior Kerry source said the Bush campaign was "hung up" over whether a light or something audible like a buzzer would be used to tell the candidates when their time is up. A Bush official acknowledged that last-minute questions, mostly over the time cue issue, held up the agreement.

Ultimately, a compromise was reached: Timing lights will flash when there are 30 seconds, 15 seconds and five seconds remaining. An audible cue will then go off to note the end of time for a response, and the moderator will step in.

"The audible cue shall be clearly audible to both candidates, the debate audiences and television viewers," the agreement says.


Each candidate should get three 15 second "extensions". You just know that they both will overlap over each others time eventually. This way at least it's legal and they also have the opportunity to finish their answer if they run out of standard time. Of course only one extension per question.

No stacking extentions! :p
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
This is great news.

Now, for those Dems who kept calling Bush a "chicken" for refusing the 3rd debate, I think it's time y'all made a public apology.

What a chicken Bush is. He wanted two debates and caved.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam

What a chicken Bush is. He wanted two debates and caved.

LOL - I have no doubt that's how some people will see this. "OMG - Bush is teh flip-flopper!" :p

 

Moonbeam

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Yes, well I was looking for some why to reflect back to Tiles the kind of sense I saw in his post.
 

Miramonti

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The kerry side shouldn't have given in to letting cheney sit down during the debate. It was probably an issue imo so cheney doesn't look like the aging geriatric that he is with his scoliosis and hunchback posture, and now he can more unassumedly lean over the desk instead.