Debated making this thread....

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
I agree with a lot of the posts that say Derek/Higher admins are part of the problem. AFAIK Derek is an editor for the Anandtech site; putting someone like that in charge of a popular forum is a recipe for disaster. He simply doesn't have the experience necessary to make/keep the forum successful (No updates, changing what was already working, etc), especially with all the changes he implemented. They should have hired someone in know of how forums work.

I mean seriously, voting for every single mod? That's possibly the worst idea ever, it just ends up being a huge popularity contest; mods should be upstanding citizens of the forum hand picked by the other mods who consistently see their contributions. I doubt you will ever find another forum on the internet that's literally "vote and whoever wins gets mod privileges", with pseudo campaigns and all, ridiculous (In either case, I do respect a lot of the mods here, and think a lot of them do a great job, of course I do think the opposite as well IE "Mods can post as regular members and therefore be piece of shit human beings if they so chose" Mods should be upstanding in their "normal" posting form as well is what I'm trying to say).

I beg to differ. The mods weren't exactly voted in by a popular vote. They were scrutinized and given the ok by the existing mods. That's a fact. No one got a free pass in because they were just voted in. I am proof of that. I was nominated, but was booted out because there are mod(s) who told Derek "no way no how". If it were by popular vote alone I would've been in. At least that is the story I was given.

I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up?
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.

QFTx100

Fail. The Rule is very simple, if they are posting as Mod, they state it or Edit someone else Post with the comment. What's so hard to understand?

Fail you. That is not what we are saying. We know when they are posting as members or as moderators, they say so. That's not the part that we are talking about. It's the whole premise.

The "Premise"? So you'd prefer they were just anonymous and continue posting anyway?

There is no "premise", there are only those who can't help, but grasp at anything to throw at someone they disagree with. Consequently getting Vacated for bringing up "Mod" in the ensuing attack. If you can't handle it, Logout.

It's obvious you just came in here to cause trouble and not offer any solutions. You are part of the problem.

hehe, ya, I guess so. Let's just disagree on this then.

 

[n7]

I don't know about the rest of the mods, but i don't particularly consider moderating FT & no normal member posting a great party of fun.
If we were getting paid to sift thru crap all day, perhaps.

It's a necessity; someone needs to do it, & for the section i cover, i don't mind it.

But i visit these forums to post, to discuss things, to enjoy them.

If i could no longer do those things, i would sure as hell not be modding.

So i'm going to have to completely disagree.

Maybe you are referring to the off topic forums, not the hardware ones, i don't know.
But i think most members who've never moderated a large forum don't really appreciate the value of a moderator nearly as they could.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: n7
I don't know about the rest of the mods, but i don't particularly consider moderating FT & no normal member posting a great party of fun.
If we were getting paid to sift thru crap all day, perhaps.

It's a necessity; someone needs to do it, & for the section i cover, i don't mind it.

But i visit these forums to post, to discuss things, to enjoy them.

If i could no longer do those things, i would sure as hell not be modding.

So i'm going to have to completely disagree.

Maybe you are referring to the off topic forums, not the hardware ones, i don't know.
But i think most members who've never moderated a large forum don't really appreciate the value of a moderator nearly as they could.

I appreciate your pov.

I am not saying you shouldn't be able to post along with the rest of us. Not saying that at all. I think what myself, and others, are rebuking is that when *posting as a member* is used so that the person can post things not befitting of a person in their position. "With great power comes great responsibility", that kinda thing.
And yes, I have moderated other boards. I moderate one now, not the size of anandtech, but I still get the gist of it all.

And I agree, those that moderate here deserve a medal or something since they are doing it on their own time and own dime. I am not trying to diminish that fact.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Hmmm, one has to wonder about the long term viability of AT forums. I think AT will not exist in 10 years, at least not in the form it is now.

We'll all be subscribed to Anand's twitter or some shit. "Hot 2nd wife just got new implants, just had new Ver 3.5 Apple Neural Stimulators installed in my children, drinking sugar free coco and going to take a dump."

 

[SagaLore]

So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

not shutdown, just revised.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

not shutdown, just revised.

Every revision will just spawn another "how it used to be" thread. If we reverted this forum back to what it was in 2002, the majority of members would go apeshit. Then we'd drown in JRUN errors, Derek would be blamed for not upgrading the forum to fix it, then he'd fix it, then he'd be blamed for changing too much, then...



This forum is too big to please anybody.

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

not shutdown, just revised.

Every revision will just spawn another "how it used to be" thread. If we reverted this forum back to what it was in 2002, the majority of members would go apeshit. Then we'd drown in JRUN errors, Derek would be blamed for not upgrading the forum to fix it, then he'd fix it, then he'd be blamed for changing too much, then...



This forum is too big to please anybody.

revise it to how it used to be, then you won't have "how it used to be" because it'll be how it used to be.

 

[krylon]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

not shutdown, just revised.

Every revision will just spawn another "how it used to be" thread. If we reverted this forum back to what it was in 2002, the majority of members would go apeshit. Then we'd drown in JRUN errors, Derek would be blamed for not upgrading the forum to fix it, then he'd fix it, then he'd be blamed for changing too much, then...



This forum is too big to please anybody.

revise it to how it used to be, then you won't have "how it used to be" because it'll be how it used to be.

:beer:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

overboard.

i did get off on a tangent due to agreeing with some tangents MercenaryYoureFired had brought up.

the original intent of this thread was to realize posting is slowing down here and how can we change it. none of us want this place to be shut down. : /

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

not shutdown, just revised.

Every revision will just spawn another "how it used to be" thread. If we reverted this forum back to what it was in 2002, the majority of members would go apeshit. Then we'd drown in JRUN errors, Derek would be blamed for not upgrading the forum to fix it, then he'd fix it, then he'd be blamed for changing too much, then...



This forum is too big to please anybody.

revise it to how it used to be, then you won't have "how it used to be" because it'll be how it used to be.

But wouldn't that create a time travel paradox? What if the forums touch? So confusing....

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

not shutdown, just revised.

Every revision will just spawn another "how it used to be" thread. If we reverted this forum back to what it was in 2002, the majority of members would go apeshit. Then we'd drown in JRUN errors, Derek would be blamed for not upgrading the forum to fix it, then he'd fix it, then he'd be blamed for changing too much, then...



This forum is too big to please anybody.

revise it to how it used to be, then you won't have "how it used to be" because it'll be how it used to be.

But wouldn't that create a time travel paradox? What if the forums touch? So confusing....

lol at the forums touching :laugh: :thumbsup:

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

overboard.

i did get off on a tangent due to agreeing with some tangents MercenaryYoureFired had brought up.

the original intent of this thread was to realize posting is slowing down here and how can we change it. none of us want this place to be shut down. : /

I'm not responding to you, but many others that decided to chime in.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
revise it to how it used to be, then you won't have "how it used to be" because it'll be how it used to be.

What is stopping anybody from creating their own forum, mimicking ATv.2002?

 

[Chaotic42]

I agree that moderators should have higher expectations placed upon their behavior. For the most part that doesn't seem to be a big problem to me since we have so many civil mods. We do have a few that don't behave that way.

For the most part though, I think that these are some of the better forums. I've left every other forum I've ever joined except for one and I've considered leaving AT permanently several times, but there's really enough quality here to make it worth sifting through all of the crap.

I'd like to see the mods actually banning more people, the removal of P&N and the locking of most P&N type content in other forums, and the return of subscriptions to help actually pay the moderators. I'd just like more... grown up forums.

Maybe they're good ideas and then again maybe there's a reason no one asked me to be in charge.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
So basically what everyone is saying is that AT forums need to be shutdown, because it sucks, the mod sucks, the owners suck, and life sucks. Great.

Come on, if there's one thing you can count on ATOT for, it's to bitch about anything and everything

 

[SuperSix]

Over aggressive moderation, horrible forum software - promises of migration coming and gong, more competition, etc.

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: SuperSix
Over aggressive moderation, horrible forum software - promises of migration coming and gong, more competition, etc.

don't hold back! :evil:

 

[Q]

I want my money back

 

[Rebasxer]

Maybe a reason this forum has seen a loss of traffic is because any time someone new joins and makes a thread the first 15 posts are

"where's my free ipod?!?!?!"

This place can very unwelcoming for newcommers, people should be nicer to newbies, wait for them to atleast say something stupid before you flame.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Quintox
I want my money back

:laugh:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Quintox
I want my money back

here's a quarter.

because this place is free, we can't comment on the current state of affairs here? is that what you are saying?

 

[Q]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Quintox
I want my money back

here's a quarter.

because this place is free, we can't comment on the current state of affairs here? is that what you are saying?

I don't know what I was saying, I just thought it sounded funny so I posted it

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Quintox

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Quintox
I want my money back

here's a quarter.

because this place is free, we can't comment on the current state of affairs here? is that what you are saying?

I don't know what I was saying, I just thought it sounded funny so I posted it

ya nut

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Quintox

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Quintox
I want my money back

here's a quarter.

because this place is free, we can't comment on the current state of affairs here? is that what you are saying?

I don't know what I was saying, I just thought it sounded funny so I posted it

ya nut

he's a few beers shy of a six pack, just ignore him.