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Originally posted by: RichUK
Originally posted by: DaWhim
this is what happen when you have more and more sub-forums just to take away traffic from OT.

DING DING!!

We need to have LR and TG amalgamated back into OT. P&N can stay.

The admins of AT wrongly thought this forum was going to grow so much that there would be a requirement for all these ridiculous sub forums.

Also, the new forum looks shit!

I agree. P&N should also be renamed the Cuckoo's nest. I say that as a regular there. It would poison OT.

The new forum? I dunno. I just hope they don't have imbedded images like it looked like they were gonna turn on. I like a clean aesthetic.

Another thought: Maybe the AT mods should do something like Pontious Pilot. Let the community decide what favorite trolls they want to un-ban every once in a while... It certainly could make things interesting...
 
Originally posted by: waggy
breaking it into 20 or so sub forums really hurt. Many got sick of the place after the "Change of colture" and it has started to lose membership since.

this has a lot to do with it if not all to do with it

too many forums and mods wanting to turn this place into a PG forum
 
Originally posted by: Narse
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
The forums are hostile and nasty nowadays. There's always been an element of that here, but it used to be more in fun than it is now. It seems like most of the current breed of posters exist simply to criticize/cut down/make fun of everyone else.

This

maybe we scared away too many Canadians?

 
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: JohnCU
the pace of the forum tonight is even more painful than usual. F5 F5 F5 FFFFFFF555555555

Thats why we have IRC.

the forum used to be as fast as IRC

I remember when it was like that. It was much faster, actually. F5 would give you a whole other list of threads on the first page every time. Now, you get the same threads and then I realize I'm on a mac now and just turned up the volume instead. But yeah, I miss ye olden days.
 
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Originally posted by: JohnCU
the pace of the forum tonight is even more painful than usual. F5 F5 F5 FFFFFFF555555555

Thats why we have IRC.

the forum used to be as fast as IRC

I remember when it was like that. It was much faster, actually. F5 would give you a whole other list of threads on the first page every time. Now, you get the same threads and then I realize I'm on a mac now and just turned up the volume instead. But yeah, I miss ye olden days.

YEP!
 
If some news event is happening I usually read about it here first.

But yeah. Like Pliable said, if your looking for something specific there is likely a dedicated forum somewhere.

 
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
It all started with the creation of the P&N forum, where you are labeled immediately as Dem or Rep, and then are slammed on in any single other forum you post if the others see it...

Politics is the downfall of everything, and it only proved itself on this forum.

/DemRep.txt 😉:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
I agree with a lot of the posts that say Derek/Higher admins are part of the problem. AFAIK Derek is an editor for the Anandtech site; putting someone like that in charge of a popular forum is a recipe for disaster. He simply doesn't have the experience necessary to make/keep the forum successful (No updates, changing what was already working, etc), especially with all the changes he implemented. They should have hired someone in know of how forums work.

I mean seriously, voting for every single mod? That's possibly the worst idea ever, it just ends up being a huge popularity contest; mods should be upstanding citizens of the forum hand picked by the other mods who consistently see their contributions. I doubt you will ever find another forum on the internet that's literally "vote and whoever wins gets mod privileges", with pseudo campaigns and all, ridiculous (In either case, I do respect a lot of the mods here, and think a lot of them do a great job, of course I do think the opposite as well IE "Mods can post as regular members and therefore be piece of shit human beings if they so chose" Mods should be upstanding in their "normal" posting form as well is what I'm trying to say).

I beg to differ. The mods weren't exactly voted in by a popular vote. They were scrutinized and given the ok by the existing mods. That's a fact. No one got a free pass in because they were just voted in. I am proof of that. I was nominated, but was booted out because there are mod(s) who told Derek "no way no how". If it were by popular vote alone I would've been in. At least that is the story I was given.

I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up? 😕
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
I agree with a lot of the posts that say Derek/Higher admins are part of the problem. AFAIK Derek is an editor for the Anandtech site; putting someone like that in charge of a popular forum is a recipe for disaster. He simply doesn't have the experience necessary to make/keep the forum successful (No updates, changing what was already working, etc), especially with all the changes he implemented. They should have hired someone in know of how forums work.

I mean seriously, voting for every single mod? That's possibly the worst idea ever, it just ends up being a huge popularity contest; mods should be upstanding citizens of the forum hand picked by the other mods who consistently see their contributions. I doubt you will ever find another forum on the internet that's literally "vote and whoever wins gets mod privileges", with pseudo campaigns and all, ridiculous (In either case, I do respect a lot of the mods here, and think a lot of them do a great job, of course I do think the opposite as well IE "Mods can post as regular members and therefore be piece of shit human beings if they so chose" Mods should be upstanding in their "normal" posting form as well is what I'm trying to say).

I beg to differ. The mods weren't exactly voted in by a popular vote. They were scrutinized and given the ok by the existing mods. That's a fact. No one got a free pass in because they were just voted in. I am proof of that. I was nominated, but was booted out because there are mod(s) who told Derek "no way no how". If it were by popular vote alone I would've been in. At least that is the story I was given.

I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up? 😕
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.

Same here.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
I agree with a lot of the posts that say Derek/Higher admins are part of the problem. AFAIK Derek is an editor for the Anandtech site; putting someone like that in charge of a popular forum is a recipe for disaster. He simply doesn't have the experience necessary to make/keep the forum successful (No updates, changing what was already working, etc), especially with all the changes he implemented. They should have hired someone in know of how forums work.

I mean seriously, voting for every single mod? That's possibly the worst idea ever, it just ends up being a huge popularity contest; mods should be upstanding citizens of the forum hand picked by the other mods who consistently see their contributions. I doubt you will ever find another forum on the internet that's literally "vote and whoever wins gets mod privileges", with pseudo campaigns and all, ridiculous (In either case, I do respect a lot of the mods here, and think a lot of them do a great job, of course I do think the opposite as well IE "Mods can post as regular members and therefore be piece of shit human beings if they so chose" Mods should be upstanding in their "normal" posting form as well is what I'm trying to say).

I beg to differ. The mods weren't exactly voted in by a popular vote. They were scrutinized and given the ok by the existing mods. That's a fact. No one got a free pass in because they were just voted in. I am proof of that. I was nominated, but was booted out because there are mod(s) who told Derek "no way no how". If it were by popular vote alone I would've been in. At least that is the story I was given.

I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up? 😕
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.
QFTx100

 
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
I agree with a lot of the posts that say Derek/Higher admins are part of the problem. AFAIK Derek is an editor for the Anandtech site; putting someone like that in charge of a popular forum is a recipe for disaster. He simply doesn't have the experience necessary to make/keep the forum successful (No updates, changing what was already working, etc), especially with all the changes he implemented. They should have hired someone in know of how forums work.

I mean seriously, voting for every single mod? That's possibly the worst idea ever, it just ends up being a huge popularity contest; mods should be upstanding citizens of the forum hand picked by the other mods who consistently see their contributions. I doubt you will ever find another forum on the internet that's literally "vote and whoever wins gets mod privileges", with pseudo campaigns and all, ridiculous (In either case, I do respect a lot of the mods here, and think a lot of them do a great job, of course I do think the opposite as well IE "Mods can post as regular members and therefore be piece of shit human beings if they so chose" Mods should be upstanding in their "normal" posting form as well is what I'm trying to say).

I beg to differ. The mods weren't exactly voted in by a popular vote. They were scrutinized and given the ok by the existing mods. That's a fact. No one got a free pass in because they were just voted in. I am proof of that. I was nominated, but was booted out because there are mod(s) who told Derek "no way no how". If it were by popular vote alone I would've been in. At least that is the story I was given.

I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up? 😕
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.
QFTx100

Fail. The Rule is very simple, if they are posting as Mod, they state it or Edit someone else Post with the comment. What's so hard to understand?
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
I agree with a lot of the posts that say Derek/Higher admins are part of the problem. AFAIK Derek is an editor for the Anandtech site; putting someone like that in charge of a popular forum is a recipe for disaster. He simply doesn't have the experience necessary to make/keep the forum successful (No updates, changing what was already working, etc), especially with all the changes he implemented. They should have hired someone in know of how forums work.

I mean seriously, voting for every single mod? That's possibly the worst idea ever, it just ends up being a huge popularity contest; mods should be upstanding citizens of the forum hand picked by the other mods who consistently see their contributions. I doubt you will ever find another forum on the internet that's literally "vote and whoever wins gets mod privileges", with pseudo campaigns and all, ridiculous (In either case, I do respect a lot of the mods here, and think a lot of them do a great job, of course I do think the opposite as well IE "Mods can post as regular members and therefore be piece of shit human beings if they so chose" Mods should be upstanding in their "normal" posting form as well is what I'm trying to say).

I beg to differ. The mods weren't exactly voted in by a popular vote. They were scrutinized and given the ok by the existing mods. That's a fact. No one got a free pass in because they were just voted in. I am proof of that. I was nominated, but was booted out because there are mod(s) who told Derek "no way no how". If it were by popular vote alone I would've been in. At least that is the story I was given.

I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up? 😕
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.
QFTx100

Fail. The Rule is very simple, if they are posting as Mod, they state it or Edit someone else Post with the comment. What's so hard to understand?
Fail you. That is not what we are saying. We know when they are posting as members or as moderators, they say so. That's not the part that we are talking about. It's the whole premise.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
I agree with a lot of the posts that say Derek/Higher admins are part of the problem. AFAIK Derek is an editor for the Anandtech site; putting someone like that in charge of a popular forum is a recipe for disaster. He simply doesn't have the experience necessary to make/keep the forum successful (No updates, changing what was already working, etc), especially with all the changes he implemented. They should have hired someone in know of how forums work.

I mean seriously, voting for every single mod? That's possibly the worst idea ever, it just ends up being a huge popularity contest; mods should be upstanding citizens of the forum hand picked by the other mods who consistently see their contributions. I doubt you will ever find another forum on the internet that's literally "vote and whoever wins gets mod privileges", with pseudo campaigns and all, ridiculous (In either case, I do respect a lot of the mods here, and think a lot of them do a great job, of course I do think the opposite as well IE "Mods can post as regular members and therefore be piece of shit human beings if they so chose" Mods should be upstanding in their "normal" posting form as well is what I'm trying to say).

I beg to differ. The mods weren't exactly voted in by a popular vote. They were scrutinized and given the ok by the existing mods. That's a fact. No one got a free pass in because they were just voted in. I am proof of that. I was nominated, but was booted out because there are mod(s) who told Derek "no way no how". If it were by popular vote alone I would've been in. At least that is the story I was given.

I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up? 😕
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.
QFTx100

Fail. The Rule is very simple, if they are posting as Mod, they state it or Edit someone else Post with the comment. What's so hard to understand?
Fail you. That is not what we are saying. We know when they are posting as members or as moderators, they say so. That's not the part that we are talking about. It's the whole premise.

The "Premise"? So you'd prefer they were just anonymous and continue posting anyway?

There is no "premise", there are only those who can't help, but grasp at anything to throw at someone they disagree with. Consequently getting Vacated for bringing up "Mod" in the ensuing attack. If you can't handle it, Logout.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade

I I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up? 😕
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.[/quote]

yeap i agree.

there is more you can say. but if i was honest and truthfull i would get banned. lol so lets just say you are right ...
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: MercenaryYoureFired
I agree with a lot of the posts that say Derek/Higher admins are part of the problem. AFAIK Derek is an editor for the Anandtech site; putting someone like that in charge of a popular forum is a recipe for disaster. He simply doesn't have the experience necessary to make/keep the forum successful (No updates, changing what was already working, etc), especially with all the changes he implemented. They should have hired someone in know of how forums work.

I mean seriously, voting for every single mod? That's possibly the worst idea ever, it just ends up being a huge popularity contest; mods should be upstanding citizens of the forum hand picked by the other mods who consistently see their contributions. I doubt you will ever find another forum on the internet that's literally "vote and whoever wins gets mod privileges", with pseudo campaigns and all, ridiculous (In either case, I do respect a lot of the mods here, and think a lot of them do a great job, of course I do think the opposite as well IE "Mods can post as regular members and therefore be piece of shit human beings if they so chose" Mods should be upstanding in their "normal" posting form as well is what I'm trying to say).

I beg to differ. The mods weren't exactly voted in by a popular vote. They were scrutinized and given the ok by the existing mods. That's a fact. No one got a free pass in because they were just voted in. I am proof of that. I was nominated, but was booted out because there are mod(s) who told Derek "no way no how". If it were by popular vote alone I would've been in. At least that is the story I was given.

I think the "mods posting as members" is crap too. If you are a moderator, you are a moderator. If you are the President of the U.S., you are always going to carry around that title. You don't get a free pass to be a dink and claim, "I'm just going to be a *regular* person today."
Whoever thought that one up? 😕
If you don't like being a moderator and having to live up to the title and the standard then step down and be "a regular member".

I also agree with you that 99% of the mods do a great job and can join in the posting just fine without having to use the "posting as a member" veil.
QFTx100

Fail. The Rule is very simple, if they are posting as Mod, they state it or Edit someone else Post with the comment. What's so hard to understand?
Fail you. That is not what we are saying. We know when they are posting as members or as moderators, they say so. That's not the part that we are talking about. It's the whole premise.

The "Premise"? So you'd prefer they were just anonymous and continue posting anyway?

There is no "premise", there are only those who can't help, but grasp at anything to throw at someone they disagree with. Consequently getting Vacated for bringing up "Mod" in the ensuing attack. If you can't handle it, Logout.

It's obvious you just came in here to cause trouble and not offer any solutions. You are part of the problem.
 
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