Debate of the Century

Originally posted by: jtusa4

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: jtusa4

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Come with me, And you'll be, In a world of Pure imagination... Take a look, And you'll see, Into your imagination...
We'll begin, With a spin, Traveling in the world of my creation... What we'll see, Will defy Explanation...
If you want to view paradise, Simply look around and view it.... Anything you want to, do it... Wanta change the world? There's nothing to it.

God THAT sounds like a HELL of a place to work... Where can I sign up? The Oompa Loompas had the best jobs in the world.

he doesnt even ACKNOWLEDGE the oompa loompas hard work. He tries to take credit for it all himself. What an asshole.

There are the dreamers, and there are the workers. The workers are next to useless without the dreamers.

So he calls them worthless! You simply prove my point...they were nothing but property to this man. Workers can be dreamers too, but he probably never realized that because he was too busy beating them into submission.

Beating them into submission? Did you see any signs of abuse with the Oompas? No! They appear peppy at work and more importantly healthy, and some of them even plump. Yes, slave owners took care of their slaves and fed them(most of them anyways), but I highly doubt slave owners would feed their slaves to point where they would gain weight. Generally speaking being overweight is a sign of someone eating more than needed and not working enough to burn it off.

You know, not eating enough can make one bloat up because of the fluids and gases in the body as well. Furthermore, it would benifit Willie to make his workers keep healthy so they would work harder.

As far as the beatings go, in a public setting, when one wants to put on a farce of "friendship" with the oompa loompas, one would NEVER beat about the face. The stomach is the main thing to hit. Anything that can be covered up...why do you think they wore full body suits? To cover up the beatings.

You've just contradicted yourself. If you are starved to point of bloating, you are in no condition to work, yet you say he would want to keep them healthy enough to work. Which one is it? Are they starved or overfed? And if I were a slave owner I would feed my slaves just enough to keep them on weight based on their workload, maximum efficiency and ROI; not so much food that they would gain above average levels of body fat.

Its not a contradiction. I'm saying it could go either way. I simply cover the bases.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: AMDJunkie
In the book, Oompa Loompas are miserable tree dwellers of South Africa (I believe), who have to eat bitter bugs because it's readily available. Willy Wonka had shut down his factory because trade secrets were being leaked by his employees to high-paying competitors. When touring the continent, he met with these people, whose favorite food was the cacao bean. Promising them shelter for predaotrs, elements, and all the cacao they could eat (in chocolate form no less), the leader of the tribe gladly accepts. No workers go in or out of Wonka's factory now, and huge sections of the underground portion of Wonka's factory makes up their city. They're not the property of Wonka, they agree to live as his tenants, therefore, they are not slaves.

willie had a part in telling that story, of course it's going to be slanted in his favor. History is written by the victor.

Tell us the rest of the story then.

"Some of the workers wanted to leave later, and asked Willie if they could do so. Not willing to give up free, tax free labor, he told them no. They began to walk out and were stopped by Wonka Factory security.

Sent back to their homes, they planned a revolt so they could stop the madness. Willie anticipated such a move and was ready for them the next morning. He shot the leaders, and told them if anyone else tried to leave, they would be shot. Anyone wanting to argue would recieve pain until they decided to stop. Hence the slave era of the oompa loompa's began."

-The confessions of a dying man, by Willie Wonka.

lol, that's awesome

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: AMDJunkie
In the book, Oompa Loompas are miserable tree dwellers of South Africa (I believe), who have to eat bitter bugs because it's readily available. Willy Wonka had shut down his factory because trade secrets were being leaked by his employees to high-paying competitors. When touring the continent, he met with these people, whose favorite food was the cacao bean. Promising them shelter for predaotrs, elements, and all the cacao they could eat (in chocolate form no less), the leader of the tribe gladly accepts. No workers go in or out of Wonka's factory now, and huge sections of the underground portion of Wonka's factory makes up their city. They're not the property of Wonka, they agree to live as his tenants, therefore, they are not slaves.

willie had a part in telling that story, of course it's going to be slanted in his favor. History is written by the victor.

Tell us the rest of the story then.

"Some of the workers wanted to leave later, and asked Willie if they could do so. Not willing to give up free, tax free labor, he told them no. They began to walk out and were stopped by Wonka Factory security.

Sent back to their homes, they planned a revolt so they could stop the madness. Willie anticipated such a move and was ready for them the next morning. He shot the leaders, and told them if anyone else tried to leave, they would be shot. Anyone wanting to argue would recieve pain until they decided to stop. Hence the slave area of the oompa loompa's began."

-The confessions of a dying man, by Willie Wonka.

Wonka gave the company to Charlie. If he was a slave owner he wouldnt give the company over to "a very honest, loving child to who he could tell all my most precious candy making secrets."??? No way does that match the description of a Slave Owner.

 

[Anubis]

me says hero

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper
Better if you can find one pertaining mostly to the history if the US (absolutely not what we read in school though, being it's our history.... we had a very strange thing of washing away our bad sore spots with famous presidents berofre and while in power). Washington for that matter to.

DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?

 

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: AMDJunkie
In the book, Oompa Loompas are miserable tree dwellers of South Africa (I believe), who have to eat bitter bugs because it's readily available. Willy Wonka had shut down his factory because trade secrets were being leaked by his employees to high-paying competitors. When touring the continent, he met with these people, whose favorite food was the cacao bean. Promising them shelter for predaotrs, elements, and all the cacao they could eat (in chocolate form no less), the leader of the tribe gladly accepts. No workers go in or out of Wonka's factory now, and huge sections of the underground portion of Wonka's factory makes up their city. They're not the property of Wonka, they agree to live as his tenants, therefore, they are not slaves.

willie had a part in telling that story, of course it's going to be slanted in his favor. History is written by the victor.

Tell us the rest of the story then.

"Some of the workers wanted to leave later, and asked Willie if they could do so. Not willing to give up free, tax free labor, he told them no. They began to walk out and were stopped by Wonka Factory security.

Sent back to their homes, they planned a revolt so they could stop the madness. Willie anticipated such a move and was ready for them the next morning. He shot the leaders, and told them if anyone else tried to leave, they would be shot. Anyone wanting to argue would recieve pain until they decided to stop. Hence the slave area of the oompa loompa's began."

-The confessions of a dying man, by Willie Wonka.

Wonka gave the company to Charlie. If he was a slave owner he wouldnt give the company over to "a very honest, loving child to who he could tell all my most precious candy making secrets."??? No way does that match the description of a Slave Owner.

Charlie is a young mind, and young minds are very easily molded. Willie cant do that with an adult, but he can tell a child that slavery is OK, and the child has no way of proving him wrong.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutly.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: AMDJunkie
In the book, Oompa Loompas are miserable tree dwellers of South Africa (I believe), who have to eat bitter bugs because it's readily available. Willy Wonka had shut down his factory because trade secrets were being leaked by his employees to high-paying competitors. When touring the continent, he met with these people, whose favorite food was the cacao bean. Promising them shelter for predaotrs, elements, and all the cacao they could eat (in chocolate form no less), the leader of the tribe gladly accepts. No workers go in or out of Wonka's factory now, and huge sections of the underground portion of Wonka's factory makes up their city. They're not the property of Wonka, they agree to live as his tenants, therefore, they are not slaves.

willie had a part in telling that story, of course it's going to be slanted in his favor. History is written by the victor.

Tell us the rest of the story then.

"Some of the workers wanted to leave later, and asked Willie if they could do so. Not willing to give up free, tax free labor, he told them no. They began to walk out and were stopped by Wonka Factory security.

Sent back to their homes, they planned a revolt so they could stop the madness. Willie anticipated such a move and was ready for them the next morning. He shot the leaders, and told them if anyone else tried to leave, they would be shot. Anyone wanting to argue would recieve pain until they decided to stop. Hence the slave area of the oompa loompa's began."

-The confessions of a dying man, by Willie Wonka.

Wonka gave the company to Charlie. If he was a slave owner he wouldnt give the company over to "a very honest, loving child to who he could tell all my most precious candy making secrets."??? No way does that match the description of a Slave Owner.

Charlie is a young mind, and young minds are very easily molded. Willie cant do that with an adult, but he can tell a child that slavery is OK, and the child has no way of proving him wrong.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutly.

Wonka treated Charlie like sh!t... Charlie had ALL THE REASONS IN THE WORLD to "sell the secret of the Everlasting Gobstopper". He didnt though. He stuck to his beliefs even with the temptation of providing a better life for his family.

 

Im going to bed, I have mono. I shall prove all who disagree with me wrong tomorrow.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Charlie is a young mind, and young minds are very easily molded. Willie cant do that with an adult, but he can tell a child that slavery is OK, and the child has no way of proving him wrong.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutly.

But if the Oompas are working in fear of Wonka, how is a small boy going to intimidate them in to continuing the work? If their is security why would the security listen to a small boy and outsider as the new boss when I'm sure the "security force" could easily take over with Wonka gone? The answer is that there is no security force and no fear of repercussions on Charlie taking over(from "security" or the Oompas), otherwise Wonka would have never put him charge.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Morning bump..

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3If they were slaves they wouldnt wear the exact same thing... its called a uniform. Most companies (think retail) require some type of uniform... .

OK, the whole thing is a retarded post, but this statement is the height of stupidity.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3If they were slaves they wouldnt wear the exact same thing... its called a uniform. Most companies (think retail) require some type of uniform... .

OK, the whole thing is a retarded post, but this statement is the height of stupidity.

It's friday... have some fun.

 

[CVSiN]

OMFG.. only this board could take a movie as great as Wonka and turn it into a issue of slavery...
wonka was a total pimp..

 

[bobbybe01]

Instant Classic.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3If they were slaves they wouldnt wear the exact same thing... its called a uniform. Most companies (think retail) require some type of uniform... .

OK, the whole thing is a retarded post, but this statement is the height of stupidity.

It's friday... have some fun.

Shall we dance?

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

oompah loompah dippity doo
I've got a riddle for you....

 

[nakedfrog]

*gets a mental image of Wonka setting out, leaving Charlie in charge for the day. 8-10 Oompa Loompas begin to close in on him in a circle, looking very menacing. Several of them pounding fists into their hands as an evil grin splits their faces. They proceed to whomp the ever lovin' crap out of Charlie, Rodney King style, as classical music blares through the PA. He awakens to find his skin painted orange and wearing an Oompa Loompa uniform.*

 

[Pliablemoose]

This thread deserves an A+ for creativity.

 

[gigapet]

"I want a golden GOOSE NOW DADDY!"

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3If they were slaves they wouldnt wear the exact same thing... its called a uniform. Most companies (think retail) require some type of uniform... .

OK, the whole thing is a retarded post, but this statement is the height of stupidity.

It's friday... have some fun.

Shall we dance?

Thats more like it.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
*gets a mental image of Wonka setting out, leaving Charlie in charge for the day. 8-10 Oompa Loompas begin to close in on him in a circle, looking very menacing. Several of them pounding fists into their hands as an evil grin splits their faces. They proceed to whomp the ever lovin' crap out of Charlie, Rodney King style, as classical music blares through the PA. He awakens to find his skin painted orange and wearing an Oompa Loompa uniform.*

:music:
Oompa Loompa Doompadee Doo
Gonna open a can o' whoopass on you!

Oompa Loompa Doompadee Dee
What would you do if we sodomized ye?

What do you get for making us slaves in the past?
Oompas gonna jam this stick in your ass!

What are you thinking with a wang in your seat?
Bet you regret putting chains on our feet!

Oompa Loompa Doompadee Dun
Now that fvcker wonka is gone
You will live in slavery too
Like the Oompa Loompa Doompadee Doo!
:music:

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
*gets a mental image of Wonka setting out, leaving Charlie in charge for the day. 8-10 Oompa Loompas begin to close in on him in a circle, looking very menacing. Several of them pounding fists into their hands as an evil grin splits their faces. They proceed to whomp the ever lovin' crap out of Charlie, Rodney King style, as classical music blares through the PA. He awakens to find his skin painted orange and wearing an Oompa Loompa uniform.*

:music:
Oompa Loompa Doompadee Doo
Gonna open a can o' whoopass on you!

Oompa Loompa Doompadee Dee
What would you do if we sodomized ye?

What do you get for making us slaves in the past?
Oompas gonna jam this stick in your ass!

What are you thinking with a wang in your seat?
Bet you regret putting chains on our feet!

Oompa Loompa Doompadee Dun
Now that fvcker wonka is gone
You will live in slavery too
Like the Oompa Loompa Doompadee Doo!
:music:

LOL! That is classic!!! :beer:😀

 

[Kev]

Is this argument really happening?

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Kev
Is this argument really happening?

"Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory As a Metaphor for Post-Bellum America - A Discussion of Oompa Loompas and Willy Wonka as a Slave/Master Metaphor for an Agrarian Economy" was my PhD thesis.

 

[jdiddy]

Originally posted by: dc
oh man, this thread is great.