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Death Rates for White American Males 45-54 Going UP!

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senseamp said:
Democratic Socialist countries are not having this problem, their middle age male mortality is dropping.
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United States' death rate is 8.1 per 1,000 people. Denmark's death rate is 10.2 per 1,000 people. Relatively rising, relatively lowering, it's still absolutely lower here than in the utopia of Denmark.

So... fuck this thread? Yea, fuck this thread and everyone who just wants to insult others for not believing in your particular special brand of socialism. Is that clear enough? 😀



There is a reason why the original article never talks about absolute numbers. It's an article written with the intention to inspire fights, rather than knowledge. The author succeeded with his words.
 
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Perknose said:
Congrats, son. You whiffed on both the idea of a rhetorical question and the joke it obviously was.
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A rhetorical question is a statement in the form of a question. Thus, if your comment was rhetorical, it was precisely a statement that we should elect Bernie Sanders. While someonesmind may have missed on the joke, he was 100% on point on the rhetoric.

Perknose said:
I'm not voting for Bernie Sanders because I know he can't win.But the liberal, European "socialist" safety net he espouses turns out to be the key reason THE EXACT SAME DEMOGRAPHIC has not suffered this same shortening of their lives, this awful and avoidable calamity.
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This tends to suggest your rhetorical question was a serious argument, not a joke.


Perknose said:
No relation to the actual study? Damn, you're dumb. :colbert:

The "socialist" safety net is exactly what the actual study shows to be the key and clear difference.
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According to the actual study:

p.4 said:
The increase in midlife morbidity and mortality among US White non-Hispanics is only partly understood.
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The above indicates the authors of the study (not the article) would disagree with your assessment of what the actual study shows.

The real take-away from the study is that there is a growth in drug, suicide and liver problems among US White non-Hispanics, especially those with a high school education or less. There are some loose suggestions that part of the cause may be factors related to economic security, but these are presented as theoretical possibilities for more study, not as conclusions or correlations supported by data and analysis.

Until I got to the post pointing out your forum title, I actually thought you were a troll supporting a ludicrous interpretation of the study in order to get a rise out of people. Assuming your ethical beliefs prevent you from trolling the forum you run, you should consider some study programs/community college courses that will improve your critical thinking and analytical skills.
 
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cubby1223 said:
United States' death rate is 8.1 per 1,000 people. Denmark's death rate is 10.2 per 1,000 people. Relatively rising, relatively lowering, it's still absolutely lower here than in the utopia of Denmark.

So... fuck this thread? Yea, fuck this thread and everyone who just wants to insult others for not believing in your particular special brand of socialism. Is that clear enough? 😀



There is a reason why the original article never talks about absolute numbers. It's an article written with the intention to inspire fights, rather than knowledge. The author succeeded with his words.
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Looks like you are losing it. Do not become a statistic.
 
senseamp said:
Happiness is not about the absolute value, it's about the derivative and also how well you do relative to your peers.
Hispanics are starting from a lower baseline in terms of poverty, so they are on an upward trajectory. Working class whites used to do reasonably well, but because of trickle down, free trade, union busting, and other "free market" policies that they themselves largely supported through their elected officials, are now poor. And in many states, they also "showed Obama" and are now uninsured instead of having Medicaid. So you have increased stress, and no access to preventative care. Results speak for themselves.
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Is that really true though? At least broadly speaking, Hispanics seem to have a similar household income trend as whites, just translated further down the y-axis.

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Of course, perhaps the rich whites are skewing the whole thing, but I dunno. Admittedly Hispanics appear to have fairly similar rates of heroin usage as whites as well, but perhaps the more religious/family-loving culture of the average Hispanic provides its own safety net that you don't find as much in white families.

If it's mostly entitled white people losing their cushy jobs to people that could use the money much more, and end up feeling bad because they can no longer afford luxury X, then tough luck imo. Doing some quick Googling, Brazil, China, and Mexico seem to be on the up-and-up. They could use the jobs better than we could.
 
Perknose said:
Look into getting a service woman. I hear you can take them into restaurants and everything! 😛
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😀 😀 😀

Gotta look at the bright side - we have lots of middle aged white males. Although at least according to these people, I is not one of them. 🙁
 
Middle-aged white guys are personae non grata these days. Too white, too male, too old to be sexy but too young to be harmless and/or adorable. So just die. Society hates you.
 
Perknose said:
Look into getting a service woman. I hear you can take them into restaurants and everything! 😛
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And when I made a joke about some indian people giving name it was racist. Now you are laughing in your own thread and having a great time while a group of people die.

Fantastically hypocritical.

Well enough of this shit, out again.
 
Only person I know of in that age group who died was a family member in 2010 who was paranoid about using a seat belt (afraid he'd be trapped in case of an accident). In the end he didn't have to worry about that as he rolled his truck and was half-way ejected and killed by said rolling truck. Other than that everyone from friends to family seems to be OK.
 
HamburgerBoy said:
Is that really true though? At least broadly speaking, Hispanics seem to have a similar household income trend as whites, just translated further down the y-axis.

real-median-income.png


Of course, perhaps the rich whites are skewing the whole thing, but I dunno. Admittedly Hispanics appear to have fairly similar rates of heroin usage as whites as well, but perhaps the more religious/family-loving culture of the average Hispanic provides its own safety net that you don't find as much in white families.

If it's mostly entitled white people losing their cushy jobs to people that could use the money much more, and end up feeling bad because they can no longer afford luxury X, then tough luck imo. Doing some quick Googling, Brazil, China, and Mexico seem to be on the up-and-up. They could use the jobs better than we could.
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how would the "rich whites" skew the whole thing when you're using a median?
 
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