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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Oh damn! Super burn!

Be honest, you have your kids, who are in middle school, helping you write your posts, right?

Lol, now respond with something stupid!
Oh damn! Super burn!

Be honest, you have your kids, who are in middle school, helping you write your posts, right?

This was the stupidest response I could think of.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
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Why the FBI ? The crimes were committed in Maryland or DC, both run by Democrats who knew about the alleged assault for 6 weeks before the Republicans did and if the allegations can be believed they are not subject to the Statute of Limitations. They can and should have been investigating all the allegations for over a month.

I'm assuming someone as smart as you who thinks DC is "ran by Democrats" would think any investigation by them would be tainted. That is the rights go to move after all, right? Everyone is against you and its all a big conspiracy to keep you down and its just one big leftist ploy to smear another mans good name. Isn't that what you were just claiming if trump nominates someone else?

So why not have the FBI do it? Are you afraid you might not like the results? Or is the FBI now, suddenly, a left wing institution?
 

sportage

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I'm ashamed for the WOMEN over at Fox News that refuse to face facts and truth.
I mean WTF???
Who raped and beat those Fox Women into silence and into such a twisted point of view?
And with that, including their support of Clarence Thomas, REALLY?
After all we now know?
Thomas called his treatment high tech lynching.
No doubt a talking point from some right wing nutcase put in his ear.
We all know Clarence Thomas lied his ass off during his hearing.

This is the thing...
Women DO NOT make this stuff up.
My own niece was molested by her own father from the age of 12 to 14.
Yes, he was a very sick man. And my niece said nothing to anyone until one day years later at the age of 30 she realized all of her failed relationships and failed marriages.
And my niece wondered why is this?
Then she put two and two together and realized it was that molestation by her father in her teen years that screwed her life up royally.
So... one day she sat down and wrote a letter to her mother and father, and to her sister who later revealed was also molested by their father as a teen, and in the letter she said she wanted nothing to do with the family ever again. Period!

So this type of assault and abuse women encounter so often is naturally something the victim rather not face or deal with.
That is, not until it just becomes too much for them to handle in later years,
OR...
the creep is suddenly up for an US Supreme Court appointment.

These women DO NOT LIE.
It is ludicrous to think the women would make this stuff up, or lie about it.
And it is so completely obvious why they hide what has happened to them, even for years until it becomes too much for the victim to handle.

Yes, the women are telling the truth. All of them.
Yes, Kavanaugh would indeed lie about this to the world.
Look at what's at stake....
His family. His reputation. Failing Donald Trump.
And his only chance to run YOUR LIFE from the bench.
Is it any wonder that all of these Kavanaugh guys would lie?

And the telling fact that Kavanaugh is not telling the truth....?
Kavanaugh never addresses his accuser directly by name.
Kavanaugh has never said in public, I DID NOT ASSAULT CHRISTINE FORD.
Kavanaugh refuses to say that.
Instead, Kavanaugh uses the words NEVER HAVE ASSAULTED ANYONE.
Never using the name of Christine Ford.
THAT, people, THAT says it all.
And THAT is absolute proof of guilt.
 
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I'm assuming someone as smart as you who thinks DC is "ran by Democrats" would think any investigation by them would be tainted. That is the rights go to move after all, right? Everyone is against you and its all a big conspiracy to keep you down and its just one big leftist ploy to smear another mans good name. Isn't that what you were just claiming if trump nominates someone else?

So why not have the FBI do it? Are you afraid you might not like the results? Or is the FBI now, suddenly, a left wing institution?
It's not a federal crime dipshit. I like the way you try to get out of any and all responsibility for the Democrats on the issue. It goes with you not having a backbone and being a whiny little liar.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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It's not a federal crime dipshit. I like the way you try to get out of any and all responsibility for the Democrats on the issue. It goes with you not having a backbone and being a whiny little liar.

Its not a criminal investigation dipshit!
 

mindless1

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Why can't he be prosecuted for these crimes if he admits to them? Maryland has no SoL on violent sexual offenses. Obviously, that should be the law of the land but hey--some people get it right.
I could not disagree more (within this contextj, where the identity of the aggressor is known).

Any woman who waits months, let alone years, or decades, is a selfish a-hole.

I get it, traumatized. But at some point you have to recognize that if you don't report a rape, you are essentially letting the rapist get away with it and do it to someone else.

Anyone who values their own agenda more than saving others from being raped is a conspirator. Try to argue it away, say that's the victim and they should be handled with kid gloves, whatever, but that is the bottom line.

To come back decades later, it's an obvious abuse of the legal system and women (or men) who do this should be strung up and laughed at for being so immoral yet pretending they should have our sympathy now.

I counter that the worst thing possible for sexual offense allegations is no statute of limitations. If it is not reported within a few weeks, that should be the end of that.

Long story short, we should encourage women to report this immediately. There should be a time limit VERY short so the perpetrator is stopped before it happens to someone else.

Granted, this whole situation is lies and deceit. You don't get to claim you went to parties, got drunk, and had sex as a result, and that it's someone else's fault.

If your dumb ass gets drunk at a party full of teenage boys, you better expect that you're going to have sex, unless you're effin'fugly.

The obvious solution to that is don't put yourself in that situation because whether it was one boy or another one, if you play that roulette game you are going to end up having sex drunk and it's too late to say the next day that you didn't want to.
 
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ivwshane

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So you admit that a crime wasn't committed. Good on you.

This must be really hard for you or you are once again playing dumb.
Kavanaugh is being interviewed for the supreme court, a lifetime appointment, and we have women who bring into question his capacity for telling the truth. Therefore its important to find out who is credible and who isn't.

If these women want to press charges, that's on them and until they do, this issue is about Kavanagh's character.

You know this and you are doing your damndest to make it about them or anything else that will distract away from Kavanagh's character.
 
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This must be really hard for you or you are once again playing dumb.
Kavanaugh is being interviewed for the supreme court, a lifetime appointment, and we have women who bring into question his capacity for telling the truth. Therefore its important to find out who is credible and who isn't.

If these women want to press charges, that's on them and until they do, this issue is about Kavanagh's character.

You know this and you are doing your damndest to make it about them or anything else that will distract away from Kavanagh's character.
If there was no crime, why interview the woman?
 

interchange

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It's a legal thing.

Wut?

I could not disagree more (within this contextj, where the identity of the aggressor is known).

Any woman who waits months, let alone years, or decades, is a selfish a-hole.

I get it, traumatized. But at some point you have to recognize that if you don't report a rape, you are essentially letting the rapist get away with it and do it to someone else.

Anyone who values their own agenda more than saving others from being raped is a conspirator. Try to argue it away, say that's the victim and they should be handled with kid gloves, whatever, but that is the bottom line.

To come back decades later, it's an obvious abuse of the legal system and women (or men) who do this should be strung up and laughed at for being so immoral yet pretending they should have our sympathy now.

I counter that the worst thing possible for sexual offense allegations is no statute of limitations. If it is not reported within a few weeks, that should be the end of that.

Long story short, we should encourage women to report this immediately. There should be a time limit VERY short so the perpetrator is stopped before it happens to someone else.

Granted, this whole situation is lies and deceit. You don't get to claim you went to parties, got drunk, and had sex as a result, and that it's someone else's fault.

If your dumb ass gets drunk at a party full of teenage boys, you better expect that you're going to have sex, unless you're effin'fugly.

The obvious solution to that is don't put yourself in that situation because whether it was one boy or another one, if you play that roulette game you are going to end up having sex drunk and it's too late to say the next day that you didn't want to.

I'm not sure exactly how to respond to this. The first inclination is rage, but I know at least this response would be ineffective. All I can say for you to reexamine your words is that they are not at all consistent by the behavior that we see.

Do me a favor though. Imagine you are a victim of sexual assault that has not stepped forward immediately. Read your words again and imagine how much worse it would be if coming forward meant you would be seen by society as a selfish a hole responsible for failing to protect other would be victims. That's a lot to overcome. You may disagree and not be able to empathize with that position. But your disagreement would be displaced because the behavior of most people in this position is to struggle to come forward.

All of us would like to believe humanity is stronger and more capable than we really are. And I think that's because we want to believe we ourselves are stronger and more capable than we really are. But there is value also in recognizing that we are only human. And sometimes humans need help to do our best. That help comes through understanding and partnership. You cannot get someone to overcome their shame by shaming them further. This message applies equally to those here who have attacked the silence of victims and those who have attacked the lack of accountability by perpetrators.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Then why get the FBI involved?

Uh because it's the job of the FBI to do background checks of nominees and this would be part of that just as it was when Clarence Thomas was nominated. Do your news sources not tell you this kind of basic shit?
 
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It's based on the assumption that he's guilty of sexual assault and possibly rape. I don't see him ruining his marriage, his career, his entire life, by admitting to a crime that he can't be prosecuted for.
What if he's actually innocent? Would you admit to a crime that you didn't commit and can't be charged with?
Come on. Everybody knows he's guilty. ;)
 
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zinfamous

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I could not disagree more (within this contextj, where the identity of the aggressor is known).

Any woman who waits months, let alone years, or decades, is a selfish a-hole.

I get it, traumatized. But at some point you have to recognize that if you don't report a rape, you are essentially letting the rapist get away with it and do it to someone else.

Anyone who values their own agenda more than saving others from being raped is a conspirator. Try to argue it away, say that's the victim and they should be handled with kid gloves, whatever, but that is the bottom line.

To come back decades later, it's an obvious abuse of the legal system and women (or men) who do this should be strung up and laughed at for being so immoral yet pretending they should have our sympathy now.

I counter that the worst thing possible for sexual offense allegations is no statute of limitations. If it is not reported within a few weeks, that should be the end of that.

Long story short, we should encourage women to report this immediately. There should be a time limit VERY short so the perpetrator is stopped before it happens to someone else.

Granted, this whole situation is lies and deceit. You don't get to claim you went to parties, got drunk, and had sex as a result, and that it's someone else's fault.

If your dumb ass gets drunk at a party full of teenage boys, you better expect that you're going to have sex, unless you're effin'fugly.

The obvious solution to that is don't put yourself in that situation because whether it was one boy or another one, if you play that roulette game you are going to end up having sex drunk and it's too late to say the next day that you didn't want to.

SO, profoundly announcing your complete ignorance regarding the actual documented reality of sexual assault victims. You're just angry yelling at something that you proudly do not understand, and will certainly refuse to understand. I bet that at least half of the women in your life have been abused in some way, and you will probably never know. Because you don't understand, and you simply don't care.

"A sexual assault victim is a SELFISH ASSHOLE for not coming forward immediately." I've never read a more ignorant, piggish, disgusting piece of tripe that profoundly rejects all of the known medical and psychological data and social reality of this type of victim. You are an ignorant puddle of puss. It's clear that you would have just rather the status quo remain, and women just "shut up and accept it!" like they have for all previous generations of humanity. Fuck off with your self-gratifying sense of pride over what is really anger that all of a sudden, "They are coming forward now! How dare they do this now, because it really bothers me that I have to hear about it! I never asked to be alive during a major social movement and paradigm shift! I didn't ask for this! This is totally unfair to me! I'm the real victim, here! What about all of those innocent gropings and rapes and stuff I could have gotten away with like my father and grandfathers and all those before me!? It's isn't fair!"

Victims are conspirators? Are you sharing the oxy bottle with your buddy Rush? Are you truly as stupid as you type?

lol @ "It clogs up the justice system." go pound glass over your false rage about something that disturbs your comfort in such a profoundly ignorant way.
 

Moonbeam

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SO, profoundly announcing your complete ignorance regarding the actual documented reality of sexual assault victims. You're just angry yelling at something that you proudly do not understand, and will certainly refuse to understand. I bet that at least half of the women in your life have been abused in some way, and you will probably never know. Because you don't understand, and you simply don't care.

"A sexual assault victim is a SELFISH ASSHOLE for not coming forward immediately." I've never read a more ignorant, piggish, disgusting piece of tripe that profoundly rejects all of the known medical and psychological data and social reality of this type of victim. You are an ignorant puddle of puss. It's clear that you would have just rather the status quo remain, and women just "shut up and accept it!" like they have for all previous generations of humanity. Fuck off with your self-gratifying sense of pride over what is really anger that all of a sudden, "They are coming forward now! How dare they do this now, because it really bothers me that I have to hear about it! I never asked to be alive during a major social movement and paradigm shift! I didn't ask for this! This is totally unfair to me! I'm the real victim, here! What about all of those innocent gropings and rapes and stuff I could have gotten away with like my father and grandfathers and all those before me!? It's isn't fair!"

Victims are conspirators? Are you sharing the oxy bottle with your buddy Rush? Are you truly as stupid as you type?

lol @ "It clogs up the justice system." go pound glass over your false rage about something that disturbs your comfort in such a profoundly ignorant way.
To what do you attribute your capacity to see the foolishness of his opinion?
 

UglyCasanova

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Polygraphs are bs anyways but taking one the day of a funeral...? Given he emotional state of the person taking it I don’t see how it could be considered at all valid.
 

bshole

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If he's innocent and people have, under oath, committed perjury they should be in jail.

Now if I was being accused of such things, I'd want an independent investigation (fbi) to investigate the matter and clear my name. A lot of people aren't given such an opportunity. Don't you wonder why the president hasn't called for such an investigation if it would clear his pick?

And in the meantime, the midterm elections happens and the Senate shifts to the Democrats. When he is cleared, the Democrats don't confirm him and the seat is lost.

This is and always has been about getting a justice in before the midterms. There is a reason that the allegation was dropped on him at the last possible moment instead of in July when the accusation was known by Feinstein.... it maximizes the chance of running out the clock.

Given that the woman is a left-wing activist, has been contradicted by every witness she named, mentioned nothing about the incident for decades, declined to provide potentially falsifiable data such as LOCATION/DATE and has no evidence whatsoever to back up her allegation, her credibility is not very good.

I believe all of the allegations are nothing more than an attempt to run out the clock before the midterms to steal a Supreme Court pick. The stakes are pretty damn high. Roe V Wade would probably be at risk with this pick. As a person who is strongly pro-choice, I recognize how terrible it would be if it was reversed. I also recognize that the Republicans stole a Supreme Court from the Democrats in Obama's last year (and that this would even the score). I marked the Republican theft as another low point for Congress. This perhaps could be just as low, if not lower. If these women are lying, they are destroying a man's life for their own political gain. Morally that is a pretty shaky. It also sets a precedent for future Supreme Court nominees. I doubt too many Democrats would be happy if a Republican activist(s) accused their nominee of sexual assault in high school with no backing evidence other than their own say so, and the accusations cost them their pick.