Dear Judge Kavanaugh

[UglyCasanova]

So, what do you think about Kavanaugh's performance yesterday? Is this really a person we want on the SCOTUS?

I don't want him on the SC but not because of his performance trying to defend himself over an uncorroborated accusation about something that happened in high school.

 

[Maxima1]

I don't want him on the SC but not because of his performance trying to defend himself over an uncorroborated accusation about something that happened in high school.

Please. It's "uncorroborated" as a result of Republicans (and Kavanaugh!) not wanting a real investigation. And for the billionth time, the standard isn't "beyond a reasonable doubt". Would you want to put someone on the highest court if there was a 50/50 or higher chance ~<95 he was a rapist, murderer, etc.?

 

[interchange]

That’s not what I’ve said (numerous times). It’s impossible to know what happened nor is finding out the truth of the matter what the senators are after anyways.

Hopefully that answers to your satisfaction Master and Commander.

It doesn't, but presuming the case might be that you misunderstand my question, I'll rephrase it.

If Kavanaugh did what Dr. Ford states he did, should that in your opinion disqualify him from serving on the Supreme Court?

 

[UglyCasanova]

And the answer is I dunno. Should something someone did in high school follow them around for the rest of their lives? Maybe. Is there a reason we seal shut the records of minors? Yeah. Is sexual assault anything that could ever be atoned for? I think so. If someone has exhibited exemplary conduct in their adult and professional life should that be what they're held to account to? Probably.

And that's me answering with the enormous assumption that everything she said was factually as it occurred. We will never know what happened between Mr Kavanaugh and Ms Ford, I doubt they even know. Should an accusation without anything at all to back it up disqualify him though? No. By creating a climate of guilty until proven innocent and the expectation that you have been a saint your whole life we chase away the good in pursuit of the perfect and will likely never get either. I don't have a yes or no answer like you're dying to get out of me, sorry Master. Hopefully now that helps answer to the best I can, especially since you've given me an "or else" ultimatum.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Please. It's "uncorroborated" as a result of Republicans (and Kavanaugh!) not wanting a real investigation. And for the billionth time, the standard isn't "beyond a reasonable doubt". Would you want to put someone on the highest court if there was a 50/50 or higher chance ~<95 he was a rapist, murderer, etc.?

Reverse, reverse, reverse limited time and scope FBI investigation upcoming

 

[emperus]

Yes, it's not up to him. He has no control over the FBI and he knows it. He also knows that every delay will cause more and more of the horrific lies that are being told about him. Just more lies, horror and destruction of his wife and children with longer delays. Sorry, i don't agree.

His rape of a girl on a boat in Rhode Island.
How about the absurd allegations of gang rape?

So, why doesn't the president order one and prevent more delays and "more lies, horror and destruction of his wife and children."

What bothers me is that Flake will be seen as a moderate for a position that any rational person should be taking. Because you're on the edge of an absolutely nuts party doesn't make you reasonable.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So, why doesn't the president order one and prevent more delays and "more lies, horror and destruction of his wife and children."

He will, remember it's a limited scope and limited time.

 

[emperus]

He will, remember it's a limited scope and limited time.

Why don't you allow the FBI to decide the time. Jesus. law and order party indeed.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Why don't you allow the FBI to decide the time. Jesus. law and order party indeed.

Because that wasn't the deal? Because there's a vote to be taken and a Supreme Court nominee to be approved?

 

[emperus]

Because that wasn't the deal? Because there's a vote to be taken and a Supreme Court nominee to be approved?

Some questions for you to think about?
What deal is this and who made it? If something happened to someone in your family would you want an arbitrary timeline set on any investigation?
Who set the schedule for the vote? Is it in the constitution or is it arbitrary? Again, remember Republicans held a seat open for a year.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Some questions for you to think about?
What deal is this and who made it? If something happened to someone in your family would you want an arbitrary timeline set on any investigation?
Who set the schedule for the vote? Is it in the constitution or is it arbitrary? Again, remember Republicans held a seat open for a year.

It was Senator Flake along with advice from Senator Coons and other Democratic Senators. Yes, especially if I was paying for it. The only reason that Senator Flake agreed to the deal (the only Republican) was if it was limited in time and scope. Otherwise no deal.

 

[Jhhnn]

It was Senator Flake along with advice from Senator Coons and other Democratic Senators. Yes, especially if I was paying for it. The only reason that Senator Flake agreed to the deal (the only Republican) was if it was limited in time and scope. Otherwise no deal.

If Flake had any nuts in his sack he'd have voted No when Grassley challenged him to do it.

 

[Victorian Gray]

That’s not what I’ve said (numerous times). It’s impossible to know what happened nor is finding out the truth of the matter what the senators are after anyways.

Hopefully that answers to your satisfaction Master and Commander.

Yet again a 'non answer' to his question. Wonder why you won't give him an honest answer.


Well, no, I'm not actually wondering why.

 

[Blackjack200]

I don't want him on the SC but not because of his performance trying to defend himself over an uncorroborated accusation about something that happened in high school.

And the answer is I dunno. Should something someone did in high school follow them around for the rest of their lives? Maybe. Is there a reason we seal shut the records of minors? Yeah. Is sexual assault anything that could ever be atoned for? I think so. If someone has exhibited exemplary conduct in their adult and professional life should that be what they're held to account to? Probably.

And that's me answering with the enormous assumption that everything she said was factually as it occurred. We will never know what happened between Mr Kavanaugh and Ms Ford, I doubt they even know. Should an accusation without anything at all to back it up disqualify him though? No. By creating a climate of guilty until proven innocent and the expectation that you have been a saint your whole life we chase away the good in pursuit of the perfect and will likely never get either. I don't have a yes or no answer like you're dying to get out of me, sorry Master. Hopefully now that helps answer to the best I can, especially since you've given me an "or else" ultimatum.

I'm glad someone is finally standing up for the rapists.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Because at this point it’s simply a stall tactic. Sorry but that’s the truth. As I’ve said before no one cares what happened back in high school. The people calling FBI don’t care. What they do care about is the midterms and preventing a vote from happening before then. We can argue in circles about all day long but that’s the reality of it.

 

[interchange]

And the answer is I dunno. Should something someone did in high school follow them around for the rest of their lives? Maybe. Is there a reason we seal shut the records of minors? Yeah. Is sexual assault anything that could ever be atoned for? I think so. If someone has exhibited exemplary conduct in their adult and professional life should that be what they're held to account to? Probably.

And that's me answering with the enormous assumption that everything she said was factually as it occurred. We will never know what happened between Mr Kavanaugh and Ms Ford, I doubt they even know. Should an accusation without anything at all to back it up disqualify him though? No. By creating a climate of guilty until proven innocent and the expectation that you have been a saint your whole life we chase away the good in pursuit of the perfect and will likely never get either. I don't have a yes or no answer like you're dying to get out of me, sorry Master. Hopefully now that helps answer to the best I can, especially since you've given me an "or else" ultimatum.

Thanks for answering even though you don't really know how you feel. I wonder if your second part of the answer is cover for your moral challenge in answering the first question. I think you would be better served in adding productively to the discussion if you were able to settle your uncertainty in examining whether you think this offense if true would disqualify him.

If you want to know my answer to the question, it is actually no. I don't think that an assault while drunk in high school should be disqualifying if the service record and moral character as an adult were well established as having been reformed from the incident.

And, yet, I think that not atoning for the incident later and perjuring yourself in denying it should most definitely be disqualifying. So if Ford's allegations are in fact true as stated, then Kavanaugh's behavior since should be disqualifying.

Unfortunately, part of me wonders what the world would be like if my feelings were more common. If we could truly forgive those who change despite not just crimes but injurious violating crimes when someone has atoned, then perhaps more people would be willing to face their shame and admit their misdeeds. But that isn't the way things are. No matter when, where, and how, if Kavanaugh admitted guilt in this instance his dream of USSC Justice would be well and truly dead, and very few would experience any dissonance in that case. Probably the consequences would be a lot more severe. But I think there would be a lot of good that could come from it, and that's why I created this thread.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Welp you've got your FBI investigation. Limited to a week, they better get to work asking the same questions that already have been to find out something that no one really cares about anyways.

 

[nickqt]

Welp you've got your FBI investigation. Limited to a week, they better get to work asking the same questions that already have been to find out something that no one really cares about anyways.

You may not care about it because you're a fucking scumbag who apologizes for rapists, but other people do care. Scumbag.

 

[Maxima1]

Welp you've got your FBI investigation. Limited to a week, they better get to work asking the same questions that already have been to find out something that no one really cares about anyways.

Say that again

 

[UglyCasanova]

If you think anyone of the congress critters cares what Kavanaugh is alleged to almost have done when he was in high school you're delusional. The best thing a politician can ever do is convince you that it's not about politics.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I hope he gets voted in soon, looking forward to knowing the 2A will be protected.

 

[UNCjigga]

If you think anyone of the congress critters cares what Kavanaugh is alleged to almost have done when he was in high school you're delusional. The best thing a politician can ever do is convince you that it's not about politics.

I get what you're saying. Feinstein certainly didn't do anything until the allegations became public. But I would argue allegations of sexual misconduct 30 years ago had a more profound affect on Dems' willingness to fight the nomination than anything Kavanaugh did in the Bush administration, or any other potential lies under oath. Probably a product of the #MeToo movement and Dems' increasing reliance on women.

 

[UNCjigga]

I hope he gets voted in soon, looking forward to knowing the 2A will be protected.

What cases on the current docket have any impact on 2A? How would Kavanaugh be different than any other Trump pick?

 

[Zeze]

I hope he gets voted in soon, looking forward to knowing the 2A will be protected.

Why do you love pew pew so much?

 

[UglyCasanova]

Cocaine Mitch announced they’re proceeding

Puts the ball in play