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Dear John McCain

DukeN

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He's also the only Republican with the business intelligence to fix some of the economical issues facing the US.
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: DukeN
He's also the only Republican with the business intelligence to fix some of the economical issues facing the US.

While that may be, he was also possibly the biggest douchebag to run this year. I don't trust a thing that came out of his mouth.
 

Bitek

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WTF, Romney is such a hack. I'll lose all respect for Mac (and thought of voting for him) if he picks that dbag.
 

Thump553

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Not a chance, McCain is going to be running on a moderate line, casting the Dem nominee as a wild-eye liberal looking to hand this country over to our enemies. He has no need to pander (much) to the religious extremists-they will either come along or be left behind.

There is absolutely no reason to take on the extra baggage of Romney's religious cultism.

Only the suggestion that Rummy be VP makes less sense.

The VP will be a GOP governor that can be fairly characterized as (currently) pretty unknown, no extreme known positions, clean record morally, and pretty much a reputation as an effective but not particularly distinguished leader.

If Romney does go wildcard on his VP then my bet is he would choose Lieberman.
 

nageov3t

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I don't think it'll be Romney... McCain's trying to run an election of character and it's pretty widely known how much he dislikes Mittens.
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: DukeN
He's also the only Republican with the business intelligence to fix some of the economical issues facing the US.

Being an executive does not mean you know how to fix economic issues any more than Muktada Al Sadr would be a good defense secretary.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: DukeN
He's also the only Republican with the business intelligence to fix some of the economical issues facing the US.

While that may be, he was also possibly the biggest douchebag to run this year. I don't trust a thing that came out of his mouth.

For once we actually completely disagree. Romney as the VP would make me actually VOTE this November!
 

Vic

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For the record: I already predicted that McCain would pick Romney for his VP about a month ago.
 

ProfJohn

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I am thinking Charlie Crist of Florida.

Wraps up FL for the Republicans and turns Ohio into ground zero for 4 months.

Romney helps by being a business man, but he doesn't help McCain win any important states.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: DukeN
He's also the only Republican with the business intelligence to fix some of the economical issues facing the US.

While that may be, he was also possibly the biggest douchebag to run this year. I don't trust a thing that came out of his mouth.

For once we actually completely disagree. Romney as the VP would make me actually VOTE this November!

For hillary or Obama maybe..
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: Thump553
Not a chance, McCain is going to be running on a moderate line, casting the Dem nominee as a wild-eye liberal looking to hand this country over to our enemies. He has no need to pander (much) to the religious extremists-they will either come along or be left behind.

There is absolutely no reason to take on the extra baggage of Romney's religious cultism.

Only the suggestion that Rummy be VP makes less sense.

The VP will be a GOP governor that can be fairly characterized as (currently) pretty unknown, no extreme known positions, clean record morally, and pretty much a reputation as an effective but not particularly distinguished leader.

If Romney does go wildcard on his VP then my bet is he would choose Lieberman.

I agree with you but the recent appearances make me suspicious. VP picks don't always make a lot of sense.. look at Cheney. Also I think the whole idea of a VP carrying a state is exaggerated--the real needs are someone with a different type of experience (governor) and someone who can be trusted on the economy (businessman).
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: DukeN
He's also the only Republican with the business intelligence to fix some of the economical issues facing the US.

While that may be, he was also possibly the biggest douchebag to run this year. I don't trust a thing that came out of his mouth.

For once we actually completely disagree. Romney as the VP would make me actually VOTE this November!

You didn't explain why.

Everyone should vote.
 

Rainsford

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This is my problem with McCain. I kind of like McCain, I could maybe see voting for him. Only he needs a VP (and he's going to have to appoint a cabinet, obviously) and while McCain might be a good moderate Republican who I like even though I'm a liberal...the trouble is that the constitution prevents him from serving as his own VP, attorney general and secretary of defense.
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: DukeN
He's also the only Republican with the business intelligence to fix some of the economical issues facing the US.

While that may be, he was also possibly the biggest douchebag to run this year. I don't trust a thing that came out of his mouth.

For once we actually completely disagree. Romney as the VP would make me actually VOTE this November!

You didn't explain why.

Everyone should vote.

Yep; while I respect anyone's right not to vote, I couldn't imagine not voting, and I would hope anyone who is able to would, even if they write in someone else.
 

Thump553

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I am thinking Charlie Crist of Florida.

Wraps up FL for the Republicans and turns Ohio into ground zero for 4 months.

Romney helps by being a business man, but he doesn't help McCain win any important states.

Bookmarked for later. Makes a lot of sense to me, assuming Crist doesn't have some baggage in his background. Also gives him a Southernor on the ticket to complement McCain's Western base.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
This is my problem with McCain. I kind of like McCain, I could maybe see voting for him. Only he needs a VP (and he's going to have to appoint a cabinet, obviously) and while McCain might be a good moderate Republican who I like even though I'm a liberal...the trouble is that the constitution prevents him from serving as his own VP, attorney general and secretary of defense.

Regarding McCain....

Why would you like a pro-war pro-patriot act Republican? The reasons you like him are the reasons I loath him. He's "tough on security" which screams neocon and abuse of government powers, the same that we've had these past 7 years.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
This is my problem with McCain. I kind of like McCain, I could maybe see voting for him. Only he needs a VP (and he's going to have to appoint a cabinet, obviously) and while McCain might be a good moderate Republican who I like even though I'm a liberal...the trouble is that the constitution prevents him from serving as his own VP, attorney general and secretary of defense.

I, for one, would welcome the idea of a return to the vice presidency as a pretty face, symbolic position.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This is my problem with McCain. I kind of like McCain, I could maybe see voting for him. Only he needs a VP (and he's going to have to appoint a cabinet, obviously) and while McCain might be a good moderate Republican who I like even though I'm a liberal...the trouble is that the constitution prevents him from serving as his own VP, attorney general and secretary of defense.

Regarding McCain....

Why would you like a pro-war pro-patriot act Republican? The reasons you like him are the reasons I loath him. He's "tough on security" which screams neocon and abuse of government powers, the same that we've had these past 7 years.

I don't have to agree with every single position a candidate holds to think they would be decent at the job. My biggest complaint with Republicans is that they tend to be way too socially conservative for my tastes, while McCain is more moderate. And while he may be pro-war and pro-PATRIOT ACT, he's one of the few Republicans who's not also pro-torture.

My political views tend to be pretty far to the left, pretty much every major Presidential candidate is too far to the right on at least one or two issues for me to agree with everything they do. I tend to base my judgments more on their overall ability to do the job, and I think McCain is probably a good guy who would do a good job, whether or not I agree with him on everything. He's far better than any of the other ass-clowns in the Republican primary, certainly.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Rainsford
This is my problem with McCain. I kind of like McCain, I could maybe see voting for him. Only he needs a VP (and he's going to have to appoint a cabinet, obviously) and while McCain might be a good moderate Republican who I like even though I'm a liberal...the trouble is that the constitution prevents him from serving as his own VP, attorney general and secretary of defense.

I, for one, would welcome the idea of a return to the vice presidency as a pretty face, symbolic position.

Sure, but McCain is like 140 years old...if he dies in office, whoever fills the VP slot could become the next President. Hell, that could happen to ANY President, which is why we have the VP in the first place. I don't want a VP that has a lot of power in day-to-day governing, but I DO want someone in the office who I could see as President.
 

dphantom

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The ones getting the most talk currently are the governors of FL, SC and MN. I agree that the odds are it will be a governor as the Veep candidate. I like Crist of FL most right now as he has solid credentials and can probably deliver FL for McCain in Nov.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't have to agree with every single position a candidate holds to think they would be decent at the job. My biggest complaint with Republicans is that they tend to be way too socially conservative for my tastes, while McCain is more moderate. And while he may be pro-war and pro-PATRIOT ACT, he's one of the few Republicans who's not also pro-torture.

My political views tend to be pretty far to the left, pretty much every major Presidential candidate is too far to the right on at least one or two issues for me to agree with everything they do. I tend to base my judgments more on their overall ability to do the job, and I think McCain is probably a good guy who would do a good job, whether or not I agree with him on everything. He's far better than any of the other ass-clowns in the Republican primary, certainly.

Pardon me Rainsford if I find provoking wars, promoting expansion of government and removing our Bill of Rights are NOT issues that I compromise on. Those neocon defining issues are precisely why I cannot vote for McCain.

Of course you did explain nicely that social conservatism is your chief concern and I can assure you that whoever you vote for in this election it has been slain. Oh, on that thought maybe you believe as I do, that if McCain succeeds in the Republican Party and gets elected ? that it?ll move the entire party further to the left and thus provide no shelter for social conservatives to hide.

That would be interesting ? but the results would be damning if you ever opposed Bush?s policies. Everything wrong with Bush was because he wasn?t a true conservative. Now you appear to like the idea. I don?t.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Vic
For the record: I already predicted that McCain would pick Romney for his VP about a month ago.

Yep, you did. Lately I've been afraid I'm gonna owe you an apology and have to eat some crow for disagreeing with you in that earlier post of yours. :)

Every time I see Romney next to McCain, and that's been quite often lately, I think of your prediction.

Damn, I still think McCain's too much of a prick to let bygones be bygones. IDK...

Fern