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Dear Bill Maher, stop making atheists look bad

How is Tebow "sanctimonious"?

Other than his personal prayer after a TD, he hasn't been beating anyone over the head with his religion. If it wasn't for the media hoopla over his kneeling, his faith wouldn't even be an issue.

That said, Bill Maher is a an egotistical douchebag...
 
palehorse said:
How is Tebow "sanctimonious"?

Other than his personal prayer after a TD, he hasn't been beating anyone over the head with his religion.
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When something as passive and small as a personal prayer is deemed an "assault", it is a sign said "victim" is nothing more than an insecure buffoon.
 
palehorse said:
How is Tebow "sanctimonious"?
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Bible verses painted under his eyes. Ads for Focus on the Family. Obnoxious "look at how pious I am" displays during games. If an atheist quarterback felt the need to announce that there's no god after he made a touchdown he'd be (rightfully) denounced as a dick.
 
Macamus Prime said:
When something as passive and small as a personal prayer is deemed an "assault", it is a sign said "victim" is nothing more than an insecure buffoon.
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ichy said:
Bible verses painted under his eyes. Ads for Focus on the Family. Obnoxious "look at how pious I am" displays during games. If an atheist quarterback felt the need to announce that there's no god after he made a touchdown he'd be (rightfully) denounced as a dick.
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Well Macamus, I guess we found the "insecure buffoon".
 
ichy said:
Bible verses painted under his eyes. Ads for Focus on the Family. Obnoxious "look at how pious I am" displays during games. If an atheist quarterback felt the need to announce that there's no god after he made a touchdown he'd be (rightfully) denounced as a dick.
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Dunno their religious affiliations, but most people who make touchdown do a "look at me, I am teh awesomsauce" dance or motion of some sort. Since they are giving themselves the credit, do you denounce them as humanists?
 
ichy said:
Bible verses painted under his eyes.
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His body, his choice.

ichy said:
Ads for Focus on the Family.
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No one is forcing you to watch these ads, nor any game he is playing in.

ichy said:
Obnoxious "look at how pious I am" displays during games.
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That's your perception.

ichy said:
If an atheist quarterback felt the need to announce that there's no god after he made a touchdown he'd be (rightfully) denounced as a dick.
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If he attributes his success to the fact that he does not believe in God, then more power to him. However, a small personal prayer after a touchdown does not mean it's an announcement. Sure, we all know it means he believes in God and he is thanking Him - but, that is no different and should not be deemed inappropriate, any more than showboating after a TD.

Here, use the wisdom of Cracked.com to figure "it" out; http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-things-both-atheists-believers-need-to-stop-saying/
 
Macamus Prime said:
When something as passive and small as a personal prayer is deemed an "assault", it is a sign said "victim" is nothing more than an insecure buffoon.
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I never said anything about assault or victim. I said that Tebow is obnoxious, and apparently you're an ass who likes to put exaggerated words in people's mouths.
 
Penn Jillette used to be a douchebag, but he has changed quite a bit recently into someone I can respect (even if he is wrong). I cannot find the video where he talks about it, but he said everyone changed after a show one night. A Christian came up to him, handed him a business card and simply said "I think your beliefs are going to harm you after you die. If you ever want to talk, just call." He says he never called, but the respect the guy gave him when he talked, and the non-pushy manner, impressed him.

Here is one of his newer video blogs (in transcript form):

What we call "tolerance" is often just condescending. It's often just saying, "Okay, you believe what you want to believe that's fine with me." I think true respect... it's one of the reasons I get along so much better with fundamentalist Christians than I do with liberal Christians because fundamentalist Christians I can look them in the eye and say, "You are wrong." They also know that I will always fight for their right to say that.

And I will celebrate their right to say that but I will look them in the eye and say, "You're wrong." And fundamentalists will look me in the eye and say, "You're wrong." And that to me is respect. The more liberal religious people who go "There are many paths to truth you just go on and maybe you'll find your way"... is the way you talk to a child. And I bristle at that, so I do very well with proselytizing hardcore fundamentalists and in a very deep level I respect them and at a very deep level i think I share a big part of their heart. I think in a certain sense I'm a preacher. My heart is there.
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http://bigthink.com/ideas/20809

The vid of it is on that page as well.
 
ichy said:
I never said anything about assault or victim. I said that Tebow is obnoxious, and apparently you're an ass who likes to put exaggerated words in people's mouths.
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If I was exaggerating, I would have posted: Tebow is going to knock on your door, and rape you with a crucifix, as he is bashing your skull in with a bible - run ichy!! RUN!! TEH CHRISTIANS ARE GONNA GIT YA!!!

It's sensationalistic self centered morans (yes, I spelled moron wrong) like you who take something as simple like a fucking prayer after a touch down and treat it as an outward act. It's a peaceful inward reflection. He isn't showboating. He isn't getting in anyone face about it. He is 100% right in praying after a TD. Not because he is a Christian, but because he is keeping it to himself.

You feel like he is imposing his views on you. You even take something that he has done to his own fucking body and feel that THAT is an imposing act as well. It's not.

Tebow is the most insignificant problem with Christians imposing themselves on the world.

Point your atheist sniper rifle at the zealots who lie to pregnant women about their choices for abortions. Or the people who shoot abortion doctors in the face. Or, at people like Bill Graham, who stated the Haitians deserved the earthquake, because he believes they made a deal with the devil. Or, the congress people who oppose same sex marriage, because they need to defend the sanctity of marriage,... yet resign because they got caught cheating.

Go after them. Not someone doing what he has every right to do - simply, because it is NOT an outward imposition in anyway, shape or form.
 
I sort of agree with Jilette on this. This whole "many paths to truth" & wishy-washy feel-good "spirituality" crap is in some ways more nauseating than what the fundies preach.
 
Except atheism is a lack of something... so there is no "group" of atheists to be made to look bad. No more than people who don't believe in unicorns can be put into a cohesive group.
 
Macamus Prime said:
You feel like he is imposing his views on you. You even take something that he has done to his own fucking body and feel that THAT is an imposing act as well. It's not.
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Stop making up things that I said and point out where I said that Tebow is imposing anything. I said the guy is annoying. That's it. I think that people who feel the need to make public displays of piety are obnoxious but contrary to the lies that you are making up I don't spend my day fretting about it either. I roll my eyes and move on with my life. Of course he has the right to do what he's doing, just like I have the right to find it tacky.
 
Macamus Prime said:
If I was exaggerating, I would have posted: Tebow is going to knock on your door, and rape you with a crucifix, as he is bashing your skull in with a bible - run ichy!! RUN!! TEH CHRISTIANS ARE GONNA GIT YA!!!

It's sensationalistic self centered morans (yes, I spelled moron wrong) like you who take something as simple like a fucking prayer after a touch down and treat it as an outward act. It's a peaceful inward reflection. He isn't showboating. He isn't getting in anyone face about it. He is 100% right in praying after a TD. Not because he is a Christian, but because he is keeping it to himself.

You feel like he is imposing his views on you. You even take something that he has done to his own fucking body and feel that THAT is an imposing act as well. It's not.

Tebow is the most insignificant problem with Christians imposing themselves on the world.

Point your atheist sniper rifle at the zealots who lie to pregnant women about their choices for abortions. Or the people who shoot abortion doctors in the face. Or, at people like Bill Graham, who stated the Haitians deserved the earthquake, because he believes they made a deal with the devil. Or, the congress people who oppose same sex marriage, because they need to defend the sanctity of marriage,... yet resign because they got caught cheating.

Go after them. Not someone doing what he has every right to do - simply, because it is NOT an outward imposition in anyway, shape or form.
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Game, set, match.
 
The problem isn't even the bash. I hate Tebow, but moreso for the representation that the media gives him. He's a sub-par QB that's got the media Te-blowing his cock all season. The problem with what Maher said is that it wasn't really even funny. He had a good concept at start. Play on it being xmas eve and mister super-religious Tebow being made to look REALLY bad. But he executed it poorly and then finished unnecessarily offensive. Being offensive is fine if you can actually accomplish funny with it, but if you fail to be funny and just go over the top on offensive then you're a dick.
 
Yeah, funny offensive is fine, offensive for the sake of being offensive is something that most of us get over when we're about 13.
 
there is no such thing as an atheist...because to even identify as an atheist you first have to recognize the idea of a God...im not talking just a christian God...i mean a creator,an entity who designed the infinitism cycle of birth and death we observe in everything from single celled organisms to to entire galaxys...so basically if your identifying as an atheist then you understand the idea of god you just refuse to believe it exists...funny how it mskes you defensive too...thats because you do believe your just "anti" God
 
zanejohnson said:
there is no such thing as an atheist...because to even identify as an atheist you first have to recognize the idea of a God...im not talking just a christian God...i mean a creator,an entity who designed the infinitism cycle of birth and death we observe in everything from single celled organisms to to entire galaxys...so basically if your identifying as an atheist then you understand the idea of god you just refuse to believe it exists...funny how it mskes you defensive too...thats because you do believe your just "anti" God
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Why do retards always post in incomplete sentences that they end with "..."?
 
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