It has not happened yet. IT has happen with other religions trying to force people to convert. But your scenario has not happened so i based on history i cannot say what "I" would do. What has happened is poeple have lost "rights" and have been persecuted using extreme forms of religion. And i can say Christians have done this far far more than people of islam. I can say that being a christian myself. History shows. And im not talking about "conspiracy theories" Im talking about the actual interview with Osama were he talked about waging war on the US because of us having troops station in what he called "the holy land" - there were a few other things that pissed him off too. if you want an answer here : "I would stop them."
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So, it is your position that since it has not happened, we should ignore it. I think that was pre-911 thinking and look where it got us.
Yep, I saw that interview w/ Osama. It was a 60 minutes episode aired in the late 90's I believe. It's pretty chilling considering today's predicament. Are you saying that we should have listened to some pariah living in the mountains of Afghanistan and removed our forces from Saudi Arabia? Look, I don't like our involvement with Saudi Arabia either but I imagine it would be a cold day in hell before our foreign policy is determined by terrorists. This is post-911 and these problems will be intercepted and taken care of before they magnify. You can thank Osama for that.
I am sorry for what happened to you grandmother. But the fact remains that I said it is the GOAL of the fundies to convert people to Islam. Although, if one looks hard enough, I'm sure you can find specific examples. I was going to provide a link to this website but it appears to have been taken down. Bad publicity perhaps? There is a lot of news articles out there about them if you're curious.
Besides the fact that this group organized a conference celebrating the 19 hijackers and calling them "magnificent", they support the overthrow of the British government and prefer to install an Islamic one.
British Terrorist Group
Looks like they moved their website to Germany.
Now located in Germany
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So, it is your position that since it has not happened, we should ignore it. I think that was pre-911 thinking and look where it got us.
Yep, I saw that interview w/ Osama. It was a 60 minutes episode aired in the late 90's I believe. It's pretty chilling considering today's predicament. Are you saying that we should have listened to some pariah living in the mountains of Afghanistan and removed our forces from Saudi Arabia? Look, I don't like our involvement with Saudi Arabia either but I imagine it would be a cold day in hell before our foreign policy is determined by terrorists. This is post-911 and these problems will be intercepted and taken care of before they magnify. You can thank Osama for that.[/quote]
NO, thats not what im saying but the US was planning to go into afghanistan before 911 wer already know that. If we want to speculate what would happen if all the doctors just quit in the US. Or what would happen if the KKK just started killing black forks like they did in the 40's and 50's.
1. - Do you think they are a terrorist org?
2. - If not, why? - If so should we just kill them?
3. - If they attack cananda do you think canada can wage war on the US?
3. - If canada happened to take US out should canada then start to wage war against africa?
There are so many scenario's and what your sayign is dont even go out side becase you might get hit by a car - Dont go outside ever. -NO lets just KILL everybody with cars?
Where do you even get the thought that people are being forced into islam - that thought ALONE is false assumtion for this argument. if osama was responible for 911 he did what he was trying to do with flying colors as far as forcing the US to stay in the house for fear of cars. Look at all the laws that are changing - Who beneifts?
So, it is your position that since it has not happened, we should ignore it. I think that was pre-911 thinking and look where it got us.
Yep, I saw that interview w/ Osama. It was a 60 minutes episode aired in the late 90's I believe. It's pretty chilling considering today's predicament. Are you saying that we should have listened to some pariah living in the mountains of Afghanistan and removed our forces from Saudi Arabia? Look, I don't like our involvement with Saudi Arabia either but I imagine it would be a cold day in hell before our foreign policy is determined by terrorists. This is post-911 and these problems will be intercepted and taken care of before they magnify. You can thank Osama for that.[/quote]
NO, thats not what im saying but the US was planning to go into afghanistan before 911 wer already know that. If we want to speculate what would happen if all the doctors just quit in the US. Or what would happen if the KKK just started killing black forks like they did in the 40's and 50's.
1. - Do you think they are a terrorist org?
2. - If not, why? - If so should we just kill them?
3. - If they attack cananda do you think canada can wage war on the US?
3. - If canada happened to take US out should canada then start to wage war against africa?
There are so many scenario's and what your sayign is dont even go out side becase you might get hit by a car - Dont go outside ever. -NO lets just KILL everybody with cars?
Where do you even get the thought that people are being forced into islam - that thought ALONE is false assumtion for this argument. if osama was responible for 911 he did what he was trying to do with flying colors as far as forcing the US to stay in the house for fear of cars. Look at all the laws that are changing - Who beneifts?
So, it is your position that since it has not happened, we should ignore it. I think that was pre-911 thinking and look where it got us.
Yep, I saw that interview w/ Osama. It was a 60 minutes episode aired in the late 90's I believe. It's pretty chilling considering today's predicament. Are you saying that we should have listened to some pariah living in the mountains of Afghanistan and removed our forces from Saudi Arabia? Look, I don't like our involvement with Saudi Arabia either but I imagine it would be a cold day in hell before our foreign policy is determined by terrorists. This is post-911 and these problems will be intercepted and taken care of before they magnify. You can thank Osama for that.[/quote]
NO, thats not what im saying but the US was planning to go into afghanistan before 911 wer already know that. If we want to speculate what would happen if all the doctors just quit in the US. Or what would happen if the KKK just started killing black forks like they did in the 40's and 50's.
1. - Do you think they are a terrorist org?
2. - If not, why? - If so should we just kill them?
3. - If they attack cananda do you think canada can wage war on the US?
3. - If canada happened to take US out should canada then start to wage war against africa?
There are so many scenario's and what your sayign is dont even go out side becase you might get hit by a car - Dont go outside ever. -NO lets just KILL everybody with cars?
Where do you even get the thought that people are being forced into islam - that thought ALONE is false assumtion for this argument. if osama was responible for 911 he did what he was trying to do with flying colors as far as forcing the US to stay in the house for fear of cars. Look at all the laws that are changing - Who beneifts?[/quote]
Your questions are ridiculous. Conspiracy to commit murder is a serious crime. One of the primary purposes of any government is to provide peace and security for its population. In the past, this meant one thing and now, post-9/11, it means something totally different. You can thank the terrorists for that.
You happen to be right about the laws. Some of them give the government an extreme amount of power. I can understand how this new power can be very frightening to people, although probably not as frightening as watching a 737 plow into a skyscraper. Again, you can thank the terrorists for that.
Post 9-11 is a different world. Cast your ballot and deal with it.
I dont "thank him" for 911. I dont want OBL to have that much of an impact on the world. Why we are letting his Azz get the best of us? And why are we going to wage a war on "Muslims that are forcing people to convert" They are as rare as WMD's? Im just saying that we cant just kill people cause "they might." People think they are doing good. BUSH said "GOD told ME" to strike Saddam and Osama - That isnt "EXTREME" to you?!(whats the difference!?) - I dont believe in killing. Its aginst my code of honor. i would rather be killed innocently that kill an innocent person. Im just suprised that so many people arent the same. In fact people would kill instead of being hurt? Or killing istead of being scared. Or kill cause they dont agree. And were basically scared because we dont understand.
So many times i hear the "left" say - i wish we can put bush cheney etc over there and let them fight in the war.
The "right" they say - those damn left and liberals sombody needs to kill them, they should die.
This is the attitude that i just dont understand. Too much killing.
So many times i hear the "left" say - i wish we can put bush cheney etc over there and let them fight in the war.
The "right" they say - those damn left and liberals sombody needs to kill them, they should die.
This is the attitude that i just dont understand. Too much killing.
I understand where you are coming from but in all honesty, you are living in a dream world. Our freedom was won through necessary wars. Had not someone felt it was necessary to kill rather then be killed, we wouldn?t be here today. This utopian vision you seem to promote is just not based in reality. If we turn a blind eye towards obvious threats, because "they might", while also discounting the fact that "they already have", those threats will come back to bite us in the ass. In today's world, this couldn't be any more obvious.
As for killing innocent people, it truly is sad. However, that is sometimes the price to be paid for protecting our way of life. I don't blame us for killing innocents. I blame the terrorists for choosing to hide amongst innocents, thereby putting their life in danger.
kaizersose
Golden Member
very productive. if you have something in particular which you disagree with, point it out. these type of comments tend to stimulate rhetoric rather than civilized discussion.
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