Deadliest Warrior Mongol vs Comanche *Spoilers*

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preslove

Lifer
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Anyone who thinks the comanche could win is a moron. The Mongols could accurately fire arrow with their bows 180 behind them while riding quickly on their ponies. This tactic allowed the barbarians of the eastern steppes to kick ass for millennia. Before the competent adoption of firearms, the nomadic steppe peoples were THE best warriors, ever. Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, the various Turkish tribes, etc. were all unmatched. Horse archers FTW.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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I'm not saying Comanches weren't bad ass, it's just this episode is so off it's wtf? William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu is a good comparison to this one.
 

bfdd

Lifer
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Anyone who thinks the comanche could win is a moron. The Mongols could accurately fire arrow with their bows 180 behind them while riding quickly on their ponies.

Before the competent adoption of firearms, the nomadic steppe peoples were THE best warriors, ever. Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, the various Turkish tribes, etc. were all unmatched. Horse archers FTW.

Very true.
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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It's a stupid fucking show, and I guarantee they don't run any simulation. They flip a fucking coin and watch you nerdy fanboys flip out over what happens.
 

bfdd

Lifer
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It's a stupid fucking show, and I guarantee they don't run any simulation. They flip a fucking coin and watch you nerdy fanboys flip out over what happens.

Normally I don't really care I just like being entertained.
 

Electric Amish

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I hate how they give big advantages to weapons like "Nest of Bees" or a "Scorpion" in squad combat. Those weapons are only really useful in large numbers faced off against a large arrayed army.
 

Daverino

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The show is laughable. I saw the one with the SS vs the VietCong. They said the SS would use the MP-28 as a submachine gun. That gun was pretty much out of service by the 1940s when the SS was a fighting force. The MP40 and STG44 were obvious choices for machine pistols.

Honestly, they just make shit up.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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The show is laughable. I saw the one with the SS vs the VietCong. They said the SS would use the MP-28 as a submachine gun. That gun was pretty much out of service by the 1940s when the SS was a fighting force. The MP40 and STG44 were obvious choices for machine pistols.

Honestly, they just make shit up.

yeah but weren't those bamboo stakes cool as shit?

lethal weapon for the whopping price of $0
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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This show is entertaining as hell. I don't get how so many of you guys want it to be canceled?
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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This show is entertaining as hell. I don't get how so many of you guys want it to be canceled?

How is it entertaining? It's 50% footage of either side hacking or shooting at big hanging pieces of meat and 50% footage of the judges oohing and aahing at the results. Snorefest.

If they actually fought each other I'd tune in. As it is, big waste of airtime.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Actually, there was one good episode I saw, the Russian Spetznaz versus U.S. Green Beret showdown. And even it was only entertaining because the Spetznaz guy kept doing these hilarious little rolls around the field as he shot. I'd lose a firefight to him too because I'd be laughing too hard to shoot straight.
 

TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
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Well, that was a 6ft sword, wasn't it?


Those claymores didn't seem nearly as badass in ultimate online.

Yeah, and the fact that Shaka Zulu chose feather + spit as the special weapon didn't help much either...
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Haven't seen this episode, but, I'd think that the terrain would play a huge part ...

For example, I think in the forest, the Mongol's wouldn't do so well as they are pretty much optimal for open field combat...
 

foghorn67

Lifer
Jan 3, 2006
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Actually, there was one good episode I saw, the Russian Spetznaz versus U.S. Green Beret showdown. And even it was only entertaining because the Spetznaz guy kept doing these hilarious little rolls around the field as he shot. I'd lose a firefight to him too because I'd be laughing too hard to shoot straight.

I liked that episode as well. The Green Beret was faster and more accurate at sniping despite the fact he had a bolt action rifle. Spetnaz dude had a semi-auto Dragonov.
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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No question Mongols. Results speak for themselves.

1. Largest empire world has ever known land and people wise from their little outback.
2. Conquered and subdued "the grave of empires" Afghanistan
3. Wiped out whole countries and cities who would not comply (Persia/Baghdad)
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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No question Mongols. Results speak for themselves.

1. Largest empire world has ever known land and people wise from their little outback.
2. Conquered and subdued "the grave of empires" Afghanistan
3. Wiped out whole countries and cities who would not comply (Persia/Baghdad)

Not to mention if it wasn't for some key "generals" dying all of Europe would of been under their foot as well.
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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Comanches LOL didnt do so well against a few men with boom sticks in Texas–Indian Wars.
 

Electric Amish

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I also hate how they take similar weapons and tests them in completely different ways. How does that make them comparable?

Legitimate science not found.
 

Zebo

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Not to mention if it wasn't for some key "generals" dying all of Europe would of been under their foot as well.

No chance on England with heavy shore fortifications longbowmen and water around them. Italy would have curtailed the mobility of the Mongol cavalry and Italy was heavily fortified with crossbowmen and longbowmen which would have been bane to the Mongol horse bowmen. Even so, it would have been a real nail-biter who would win. Most historians say they wanted no part of Western Europe who was pretty united after half the Hungarians were wiped out.
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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Ah I'm sorry it wasn't a general it was actually Ogedai Khan who died that prevented the Mongols from taking over all of Europe.