DEAD (with official Dell statement) - Rio Karma 20GB Jukebox for $50.

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po0pman

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i dunno it looks to me that the SKU change mentioned above is how they're going to cancel our orders :p I'm a sad panda :(
 

smw

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Sorry, I don't buy it. If they were overstocked on this item (unlikely since it's a fairly new release) and wanted to get rid of it quickly, they'd probably cut the price 10% or something and advertise it on their homepage. They're not going to sell it for so much less than wholesale.
 

lokitech

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this thread is funny. You have a better chance scoring with Jennifer Aniston then getting one of these Rios from dell.

Yeah you're right, I scored with Jennifer... twice... but Dell cancelled my order....







lets move on people....
 

DaCurryman

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I refuse to move on....my soul will be in unrest untill this is settled. :D I must say that I'm quite amused by this thread. I feel like it's a movie and I'm waiting to find out the ending.
 

Fallen Kell

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Well, again, I think one of the other things you need to consider is the fact that some people also ordered accessories for this product as well. Its not like there wasn't a huge link to the 300W FM transmitter that connects to portable audio devices such as this one. Wholesale prices are a lot lower then what a lot of you people are believing. I mean, seriously think about this for a few minutes.

What exactly is the product... well its a 20 gig hard drive, well lets see, those go for about what, $10-30 now retail. It has a databus for the hard drive, which means a controler chip, it also has usb, which again is a control chip. Well just about ever motherboard manufacturer already has chips that are combo usb contollers and ide controller, and cost less then $2. You also have a processor chip to handle I/O requests and perform the MP3, etc. decoding ($5-10). You have a few capacitors and resistors (maybe, maybe $1-3 worth). You have your pcb for all the chips with traces for all the connections ($5). A header for the usb connector ($.10), a volume dial ($.05), a 1/16" headphone jack ($.50), a battery pack ($.40), a lcd screen? (not sure but only $5 if it has one), an external power adaptor ($1-4), and the plastic outside shell ($5). So, on the high side of the components you are only looking at ~$60-70 in parts, then figure another $10 in production costs, so figure $80 to produce.... hmmm... that sure looks VERY close to what we just bought it for....

You know what I think happened... I think that they placed THEIR cost for the product for the sale price.
 

uwannawhat

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Ok, for the sake of argument let's consider this deal.

BB had Donkey Kong Country for $0.99 just this week!

After only a day they changed the price back to $19.99. That's a 95% difference in price! :Q

These players were sold @ some $70+ compared to the new price on their site of $360.

So you can easily see that some products do get that great of a reduction in price. It's not a totally impossible deal.

I'm not saying this will happen here, but these excellent deals do happen & it's a positive karma :lol: for us dreamers to hold on to.

Well, that is until the terminal email comes. :brokenheart:

So there is a ray of hope in a somewhat amusing way! ;)
 

LuNoTiCK

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Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Well, again, I think one of the other things you need to consider is the fact that some people also ordered accessories for this product as well. Its not like there wasn't a huge link to the 300W FM transmitter that connects to portable audio devices such as this one. Wholesale prices are a lot lower then what a lot of you people are believing. I mean, seriously think about this for a few minutes.

What exactly is the product... well its a 20 gig hard drive, well lets see, those go for about what, $10-30 now retail. It has a databus for the hard drive, which means a controler chip, it also has usb, which again is a control chip. Well just about ever motherboard manufacturer already has chips that are combo usb contollers and ide controller, and cost less then $2. You also have a processor chip to handle I/O requests and perform the MP3, etc. decoding ($5-10). You have a few capacitors and resistors (maybe, maybe $1-3 worth). You have your pcb for all the chips with traces for all the connections ($5). A header for the usb connector ($.10), a volume dial ($.05), a 1/16" headphone jack ($.50), a battery pack ($.40), a lcd screen? (not sure but only $5 if it has one), an external power adaptor ($1-4), and the plastic outside shell ($5). So, on the high side of the components you are only looking at ~$60-70 in parts, then figure another $10 in production costs, so figure $80 to produce.... hmmm... that sure looks VERY close to what we just bought it for....

You know what I think happened... I think that they placed THEIR cost for the product for the sale price.


I can't believe you actually believe what you typed.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Well, again, I think one of the other things you need to consider is the fact that some people also ordered accessories for this product as well. Its not like there wasn't a huge link to the 300W FM transmitter that connects to portable audio devices such as this one. Wholesale prices are a lot lower then what a lot of you people are believing. I mean, seriously think about this for a few minutes.

What exactly is the product... well its a 20 gig hard drive, well lets see, those go for about what, $10-30 now retail. It has a databus for the hard drive, which means a controler chip, it also has usb, which again is a control chip. Well just about ever motherboard manufacturer already has chips that are combo usb contollers and ide controller, and cost less then $2. You also have a processor chip to handle I/O requests and perform the MP3, etc. decoding ($5-10). You have a few capacitors and resistors (maybe, maybe $1-3 worth). You have your pcb for all the chips with traces for all the connections ($5). A header for the usb connector ($.10), a volume dial ($.05), a 1/16" headphone jack ($.50), a battery pack ($.40), a lcd screen? (not sure but only $5 if it has one), an external power adaptor ($1-4), and the plastic outside shell ($5). So, on the high side of the components you are only looking at ~$60-70 in parts, then figure another $10 in production costs, so figure $80 to produce.... hmmm... that sure looks VERY close to what we just bought it for....

You know what I think happened... I think that they placed THEIR cost for the product for the sale price.


I can't believe you actually believe what you typed.

lol I was thinking the exact same thing.

 

dc

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Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Well, again, I think one of the other things you need to consider is the fact that some people also ordered accessories for this product as well. Its not like there wasn't a huge link to the 300W FM transmitter that connects to portable audio devices such as this one. Wholesale prices are a lot lower then what a lot of you people are believing. I mean, seriously think about this for a few minutes.

What exactly is the product... well its a 20 gig hard drive, well lets see, those go for about what, $10-30 now retail. It has a databus for the hard drive, which means a controler chip, it also has usb, which again is a control chip. Well just about ever motherboard manufacturer already has chips that are combo usb contollers and ide controller, and cost less then $2. You also have a processor chip to handle I/O requests and perform the MP3, etc. decoding ($5-10). You have a few capacitors and resistors (maybe, maybe $1-3 worth). You have your pcb for all the chips with traces for all the connections ($5). A header for the usb connector ($.10), a volume dial ($.05), a 1/16" headphone jack ($.50), a battery pack ($.40), a lcd screen? (not sure but only $5 if it has one), an external power adaptor ($1-4), and the plastic outside shell ($5). So, on the high side of the components you are only looking at ~$60-70 in parts, then figure another $10 in production costs, so figure $80 to produce.... hmmm... that sure looks VERY close to what we just bought it for....

You know what I think happened... I think that they placed THEIR cost for the product for the sale price.

haha, oh yes, they magicaly use standard 3.5" 20gb drives and shrink them down with their top secret shrink ray.
 

froinlaven

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Originally posted by: dc
Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Well, again, I think one of the other things you need to consider is the fact that some people also ordered accessories for this product as well. Its not like there wasn't a huge link to the 300W FM transmitter that connects to portable audio devices such as this one. Wholesale prices are a lot lower then what a lot of you people are believing. I mean, seriously think about this for a few minutes.

What exactly is the product... well its a 20 gig hard drive, well lets see, those go for about what, $10-30 now retail. It has a databus for the hard drive, which means a controler chip, it also has usb, which again is a control chip. Well just about ever motherboard manufacturer already has chips that are combo usb contollers and ide controller, and cost less then $2. You also have a processor chip to handle I/O requests and perform the MP3, etc. decoding ($5-10). You have a few capacitors and resistors (maybe, maybe $1-3 worth). You have your pcb for all the chips with traces for all the connections ($5). A header for the usb connector ($.10), a volume dial ($.05), a 1/16" headphone jack ($.50), a battery pack ($.40), a lcd screen? (not sure but only $5 if it has one), an external power adaptor ($1-4), and the plastic outside shell ($5). So, on the high side of the components you are only looking at ~$60-70 in parts, then figure another $10 in production costs, so figure $80 to produce.... hmmm... that sure looks VERY close to what we just bought it for....

You know what I think happened... I think that they placed THEIR cost for the product for the sale price.

haha, oh yes, they magicaly use standard 3.5" 20gb drives and shrink them down with their top secret shrink ray.

Instead of waiting for it to ship I guess I should just buy the parts myself and make an $80 Ipod killer. :confused:
 

Reikon

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Originally posted by: dc
haha, oh yes, they magicaly use standard 3.5" 20gb drives and shrink them down with their top secret shrink ray.

Shh! It's a secret!

 

lokitech

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I *REALLY* dont think that any company sells what they produce at production cost to wholesellers or retailers... its discounted for the wholeseller (usually the scale of what they think the market will bear for retail, then they discount 50 to upwards of maybe around 66 percent off that for wholeseller), which may resell to another wholeseller at a smaller discount. Then at some point, it is sold to retailers, who pays a little more for the item (usually 33 to 50 percent of msrp), but that price is no-where near production cost of the item.
The item that retailers do make a killing on is add-on items like cables and supplies. usually the lesser known the brand the more money the retailer can make on the item.


LT
 

luto1999

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I got a tracking # !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah right, if i do it would be for an empty box with a brick in it.....
 

Reikon

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Originally posted by: luto1999
I got a tracking # !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah right, if i do it would be for an empty box with a brick in it.....

Then it wouldn't be an empty box would it? :p
 

RobinR

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Originally posted by: Reikon
Originally posted by: luto1999
I got a tracking # !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah right, if i do it would be for an empty box with a brick in it.....

Then it wouldn't be an empty box would it? :p
touche.

Ive been following this pretty closely, hope somebody gets a Rio out of it. I'd love to have gotten one, but Ill probably end up paying $400 sometime next year for an iPod.
 

Kwad Guy

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I do think it's odd Dell hasn't sent out the completely expected cancellations yet. This one should be a no brainer: Tell everyone it's a price mistake and let that be that.

Of course, since they weren't in stock, which means none have shipped out, they have more time to get the job done.

Kwad
 

TheHippo

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Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Well, again, I think one of the other things you need to consider is the fact that some people also ordered accessories for this product as well. Its not like there wasn't a huge link to the 300W FM transmitter that connects to portable audio devices such as this one. Wholesale prices are a lot lower then what a lot of you people are believing. I mean, seriously think about this for a few minutes.

What exactly is the product... well its a 20 gig hard drive, well lets see, those go for about what, $10-30 now retail. It has a databus for the hard drive, which means a controler chip, it also has usb, which again is a control chip. Well just about ever motherboard manufacturer already has chips that are combo usb contollers and ide controller, and cost less then $2. You also have a processor chip to handle I/O requests and perform the MP3, etc. decoding ($5-10). You have a few capacitors and resistors (maybe, maybe $1-3 worth). You have your pcb for all the chips with traces for all the connections ($5). A header for the usb connector ($.10), a volume dial ($.05), a 1/16" headphone jack ($.50), a battery pack ($.40), a lcd screen? (not sure but only $5 if it has one), an external power adaptor ($1-4), and the plastic outside shell ($5). So, on the high side of the components you are only looking at ~$60-70 in parts, then figure another $10 in production costs, so figure $80 to produce.... hmmm... that sure looks VERY close to what we just bought it for....

You know what I think happened... I think that they placed THEIR cost for the product for the sale price.


...stupid.

it'd be nice to get it, but considering most of the time dell doesnt send stuff you buy at full price, i'd be very surprised if anyone go this (that didnt pay $400).

 

s0ssos

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Originally posted by: TheHippo
Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Well, again, I think one of the other things you need to consider is the fact that some people also ordered accessories for this product as well. Its not like there wasn't a huge link to the 300W FM transmitter that connects to portable audio devices such as this one. Wholesale prices are a lot lower then what a lot of you people are believing. I mean, seriously think about this for a few minutes.

What exactly is the product... well its a 20 gig hard drive, well lets see, those go for about what, $10-30 now retail. It has a databus for the hard drive, which means a controler chip, it also has usb, which again is a control chip. Well just about ever motherboard manufacturer already has chips that are combo usb contollers and ide controller, and cost less then $2. You also have a processor chip to handle I/O requests and perform the MP3, etc. decoding ($5-10). You have a few capacitors and resistors (maybe, maybe $1-3 worth). You have your pcb for all the chips with traces for all the connections ($5). A header for the usb connector ($.10), a volume dial ($.05), a 1/16" headphone jack ($.50), a battery pack ($.40), a lcd screen? (not sure but only $5 if it has one), an external power adaptor ($1-4), and the plastic outside shell ($5). So, on the high side of the components you are only looking at ~$60-70 in parts, then figure another $10 in production costs, so figure $80 to produce.... hmmm... that sure looks VERY close to what we just bought it for....

You know what I think happened... I think that they placed THEIR cost for the product for the sale price.


...stupid.

it'd be nice to get it, but considering most of the time dell doesnt send stuff you buy at full price, i'd be very surprised if anyone go this (that didnt pay $400).


sorry. just had to echo again how stupid fallenkell is