Dead Space is the last straw!

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: jonks
or plug in a 360 controller which every pc gamer should have anyway. if you spend $200+ on a graphics card, shell out $30 so you can enjoy games that control better with a gamepad.

Well excuse me but fuck the hell off. I play on PC so I can use my mouse and keyboard. It's probably the number 1 draw card for PC gaming to me.

Exactly! Until they start making multiplayer fight games for the PC, I'm not letting a retarded controller touch my PC.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Get a xbox controller? Or maybe he should try eating a bag of broken glass while he games too. Why and the hell would anyone play a FPS on the PC with a xbox controller?

1) Dead Space is not an FPS
2) Dead Space seems to be designed with a gamepad in mind.
3) People have preferred methods of playing their video games. Why the hell do you have to be suck a dick about it?
4) What is "why and the hell"?

PC FPS and M & KB go together. You dont make an FPS for the PC that uses a gamepad thats just retarded. Its not what they did anyways its a rushed port obviously like most console designed games. Want the best experience? Play emm on the console.

What is "be suck a dick about it?"

 

[mindcycle]

Originally posted by: Maximilian
What is "be suck a dick about it?"

lol

 

[marmasatt]

So I dumped Ass. Creed because I couldn't stand the wonky controls. Would this game be bad for me? Better or worse?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: jonks
turn off vsync.

or plug in a 360 controller which every pc gamer should have anyway. if you spend $200+ on a graphics card, shell out $30 so you can enjoy games that control better with a gamepad.

i started the game with the gamepad and after getting mauled over and over in the asteroids section, switched to m/kb and found i preferred it, and stuck with that the rest of the game.

i had no problems either way and thought it was a great game. props to EA for experimenting with new franchises. between this and mirror's edge they're branching out successfully. drm has never affected me negatively as I don't reinstall windows every week. like 99% of people out there, I'm quite happy with my pc gaming and have no plans to buy a console.

Gamepads suck for everything except Sports.

Fixed, cause they in fact do Suck for Racing.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: Martimus

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: SMOGZINN

Originally posted by: ricleo2
Why even release the game?

To make money.

Why doesn't EA address their customers concerns?

It doesn't make money.

Aren't retail laws being broken?

Not that I know of, what laws you thinking of?

How come you can't get a refund on a PC game?

Well the excuse is that they are afraid you copied it, the real reason is because most stores return policy are longer then the duration of a game. It is the reason that a game only has to look good and not actually be good.

Is the gaming industry going through bad economic times?

Yes, the whole world is.

When I'm playing a game I get fully immersed in it where I forget work. It's one of many ways I relieve stress. But playing games is just not near as fun as it used to be. Again: What the hell is going on?

You are growing up?

Wow, such a mature and helpful post....*rolls eyes*

Everything SMOGZINN said looks accurate to me, and it doesn't appear like he was insulting or condescending at all in the way he said it.

SMOGZINN: ricleo2 was the person who asked the questions, not nismotigerwvu. I can see how you would mistake the two though, since they have the same avatar.

One's personal opinion does not always equal the truth.
If he would have said, "In my opinion" and then treated said comments as such, then I wouldn't have said a thing.
However, the very instant someone begins to treat their own personal opinions as concrete truth they become intellectually dead to me (i.e useless).
When someone does all of the above while proclaiming themselves to be the mature voice of reason, they punch their one way to ticket to ignore town.

 

[ricleo2]

Well, I play and enjoy the game much better with a 360 controller. The creatures are fun too kill and the game itself is very scary. Real escapism. Thanks too all.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
One's personal opinion does not always equal the truth.
If he would have said, "In my opinion" and then treated said comments as such, then I wouldn't have said a thing.
However, the very instant someone begins to treat their own personal opinions as concrete truth they become intellectually dead to me (i.e useless).
When someone does all of the above while proclaiming themselves to be the mature voice of reason, they punch their one way to ticket to ignore town.

I can see your point. I just happen to agree with his opinions for the most part. But you are right, that you should not state an opinion as fact, or you are likely not to be taken seriously by anyone who can think for themselves.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: ricleo2
Well, I play and enjoy the game much better with a 360 controller. The creatures are fun too kill and the game itself is very scary. Real escapism. Thanks too all.

Good to hear that you solved your problem. Maybe I will pick up a controller too at some point.

 

[AbAbber2k]

I enjoyed it, and felt the sluggish controls (vsynch off, mouse sens maxed) added to the game as a survival horror. Menu system was my only real grievance. Otherwise I thought it was one of the best games I'd played in quite a while.

 

[chizow]

If you liked this game you should also check out the prequel movie:
Dead Space

Just got my bluray, plan on picking up the game if the movie seems interesting. Also not sure what people are complaining about with performance, the reviews I've seen have shown this game running at insane FPS at 1920 with decent rigs (100+ avg).

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Maximilian
What is "be suck a dick about it?"

I dunno. Why don't you show me?

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: Martimus

Originally posted by: ricleo2
Well, I play and enjoy the game much better with a 360 controller. The creatures are fun too kill and the game itself is very scary. Real escapism. Thanks too all.

Good to hear that you solved your problem. Maybe I will pick up a controller too at some point.

It really is a shame that gamepads have become a near necessity for a PC gamer.
With the lazy ports we get, it really boils down to play with a pad or don't enjoy it at all.
Maybe we can convince enough people to speak with their wallets and reward good developers and punish the awful *cough* EA *cough*

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
One's personal opinion does not always equal the truth.
If he would have said, "In my opinion" and then treated said comments as such, then I wouldn't have said a thing.

Of course what he says is his opinion. That should go without out saying. You didn't start your post with, "In my opinion." Does that make your post immature and mean you're trying to pass off your opinion as scientific fact.

 

[theblackbox]

i enjoyed dead space. i thought it was a well put together game no matter where it came from, console or pc. once i turned off vsync the standard keyboard/mouse combo worked like a charm. i really like the fact you can't move like in a fps, where you can spin and jump and move inhumanly. the controls add to the game, and make it more, playable.
only 1 game sucks this year i have played, and that is fallout 3. playing on vista 64, and i get kicked out once a day from that POS. when it works, it's ok. l4d, dead space, cod4,cod5 much happier and better games.

 

[skace]

A gamepad is not needed for Dead Space, the controls work flawlessly once V-Sync is disabled. It's a horrible oversight but a trivial fix once known.

Seriously, I shouldn't need to bold that, but reading the thread, it needed to be hammered in.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
One's personal opinion does not always equal the truth.
If he would have said, "In my opinion" and then treated said comments as such, then I wouldn't have said a thing.

Of course what he says is his opinion. That should go without out saying. You didn't start your post with, "In my opinion." Does that make your post immature and mean you're trying to pass off your opinion as scientific fact.

I'll see your flame bait and raise you this.

What you are saying is that when I said "someone's opinion is not always a fact" it was just an opinion and not a fact.
This implies that you feel opinions are always facts.
In my opinion you're just an antisocial moron with nothing better to do than threadcap and added nothing to conversation.
By your logic, this must be true.

Back to the topic though; this game was rather good on the xbox, but from what I'm hearing is a little bit of a sloppy port.
With the control issue out of the way (sacrificing KB+mouse accuracy for convenience of a pad) is it still enjoyable?

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: marmasatt

So I dumped Ass. Creed because I couldn't stand the wonky controls. Would this game be bad for me? Better or worse?

I thought the controls in Assasins Creed were really good. The controls in Dead Space aren't even the same other than WASD for movement.

 

[ricleo2]

Originally posted by: AdamK47

Originally posted by: marmasatt

So I dumped Ass. Creed because I couldn't stand the wonky controls. Would this game be bad for me? Better or worse?

I thought the controls in Assasins Creed were really good. The controls in Dead Space aren't even the same other than WASD for movement.

Ah, yes. I failed to mention that the movement keys are not mappable. I could not assign the forward, reverse, left, or right movement to any other keys. The options adjustments in the game seem to have that ability but it simply will not save it. I play games with the mouse in my left hand and the movement keys I always assign to the arrow ones on the keyboard.
EA does not address this issue at all. Despite it being discussed in it's own forums.
But, I would say that the game itself is great, now that I use a controller. I can also play it with all the eye candy turned up with no problems at all.

 

[Liet]

Originally posted by: skace
A gamepad is not needed for Dead Space, the controls work flawlessly once V-Sync is disabled. It's a horrible oversight but a trivial fix once known.

It helps, but that's not a total solution. Even with V-Sync off, Sensitivity maxed out, the controls are STILL too slow. Plus, now I have to play the game with annoying tearing whenever there's a flashing light, which is everywhere in this game.

Horrible and sloppy work by the devs. Inexcusable.

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: skace
A gamepad is not needed for Dead Space, the controls work flawlessly once V-Sync is disabled. It's a horrible oversight but a trivial fix once known.

Seriously, I shouldn't need to bold that, but reading the thread, it needed to be hammered in.

I don't get these people. I agree once you disable vsync the controls are absolutely fine.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: mindcycle

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Well excuse me but fuck the hell off. I play on PC so I can use my mouse and keyboard. It's probably the number 1 draw card for PC gaming to me.

Agreed

It's people like you two and PingSpike who make me ashamed to call myself a PC Gamer. You and the others like you turn up your nose at anything that's not "MOUSE AND OMFGSPLOOGE KEYBOARD!!!111one" and instantly dismiss a game that doesn't lend itself to a mouse and keyboard.

You're like the French of gaming.

 

[nosfe]

well i don't have a gamepad or joystick or whatever so of course i don't like PC games that come with crappy support for mouse+keyboard. Dead Space wasn't one of those for me because i like the low sensitivity, i even lowered it a bit compared to the default.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

I played Dead Space all the way through with mouse/keyboard. If you're complaining about the controls being slow, that's probably because you're not supposed to be walking around with your gun drawn the whole time. You turn to your targets, aim, and shoot. If you can't kill the enemies with the help of stasis, exploding barrels, and the awesome weapons, then you just suck at shooting games.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu
What you are saying is that when I said "someone's opinion is not always a fact" it was just an opinion and not a fact.
This implies that you feel opinions are always facts.
In my opinion you're just an antisocial moron with nothing better to do than threadcap and added nothing to conversation.
By your logic, this must be true.

I'll rise to your bad logic, and raise you some good logic.
We will start with the simplist. I gave only one opionion.

What you are saying is that when I said "someone's opinion is not always a fact" it was just an opinion and not a fact.
This implies that you feel opinions are always facts.

Now, let us consider this for a moment. How exactly does his statement imply what he believes? Unless you can back up with some evidence, then you can not declaratively state that he was referencing your 'someone's opinion is not always a fact' statement, nor can you say that even if he was that he believes that statement to be false.
It appears that while writing that statement you might have realized that the logic of the argument was over your head and decided to resort to name calling. That says way more about your intellectually credibility then any ethical dilemma surrounding my use of declarative statements ever could. Giving up any semblance of an argument and resorting to name calling really is the depths of intellectual uselessness.

And you call me out for posting opinion, but you do not bother to rebut my opinion, nor even to point out what you believe to be opinion, and to top it off you claim that I somehow declared myself a authority as ?the mature voice of reason? which can be nothing but your opinion.

So, basically you yourself posted a bunch of opinions which, which you disguise as facts, and that have nothing to do with the topic, and when someone questioned you on it you instead of defending your postion simply become insulting.

I'm the one that should be ignored?