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Originally posted by: John
Get a grip!
I completely agree. I woulda made some suggestions or gave you some help, but I hate people who YELL all the time, it's just RUDE! And WTF is with all that BS in the subject line?

Just dial 1-800-HLP-DELL it isn't rocket science.

Thorin

 
Everybody STOP!

This is Dell we're talking about here. It's the perfect place to buy LCDs from because of their return policy. Basically, if you're not happy with it (for any reason) you can return it within 30 days. How can you possibly beat that? Most places have a strict dead pixel policy that states the minimum number of dead pixels that are acceptable for a return, not Dell.

Here's a quote from this Dell page:

"Dell offers a Total Satisfaction return policy. You can request a return on an item within 30 days from the original invoice date; this includes new Dell systems, parts, or retail peripherals"

So just calm the f*ck down, call Dell and send it back for a replacement.
 
My powerbook has 2 dead pixels stuck on red. It's only annoying if you get REALLY REALLY close to the screen and stare at them.
 
Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
My powerbook has 2 dead pixels stuck on red. It's only annoying if you get REALLY REALLY close to the screen and stare at them.


🙂 , thats the right attitude to have, hey man nothing in life is perfect, every CRT I have had has had some sort of flaw in it, and so far every LCD has been that way as well....hey so has
every mobo, video card and sound card I have ever owned...not to mention every woman as well. 😀
 
Dell's return policy is exactly why I bought the 17" (well, that and I think it looks really cool). I'm happy there's no dead pixels, but I would try to return it ASAP if you can.

I just wish the 17" wasn't 1280x1024=squished.

 
call dell and tell them you want to return it for a refund. im sure they also have a dead pixel policy like most other companies do.

when i worked for hp, they considered anything under 9 to be acceptable.

im glad 3 of my dell lcds do not have any. lucky me, knock on wood.
 
I've got a 17" HP LCD without a single broken (dead or excited) pixel. Guess I should count myself lucky. I know up to 9 along the outer edge or up to 1 near the center are considered "acceptable" QA for panels by most companies. Numbers acceptable also vary based on if it's an "off" dead or "on" dead pixel. Offs are more acceptable since they're loss noticable.
 
Originally posted by: BentValve
Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
My powerbook has 2 dead pixels stuck on red. It's only annoying if you get REALLY REALLY close to the screen and stare at them.


🙂 , thats the right attitude to have, hey man nothing in life is perfect, every CRT I have had has had some sort of flaw in it, and so far every LCD has been that way as well....hey so has
every mobo, video card and sound card I have ever owned...not to mention every woman as well. 😀


Lol, my CRT is puuuuurfect. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: imtim83
One reason i won't go LCDs. No thank you..

My trinitron monitor has dead pixels (missing phosphorous) also so there not limited to LCD's. Trinitron's have a smaller dot pitch so it's harder to notice.
 
Originally posted by: merlocka
Dell's return policy is exactly why I bought the 17" (well, that and I think it looks really cool). I'm happy there's no dead pixels, but I would try to return it ASAP if you can.

I just wish the 17" wasn't 1280x1024=squished.

1280x1024 is an LCD standard so the physical LCD size should match that resolution perfectly. 1280x1024 on a regulary CRT will look squished.
 
Originally posted by: Painkiller
Originally posted by: merlocka
Dell's return policy is exactly why I bought the 17" (well, that and I think it looks really cool). I'm happy there's no dead pixels, but I would try to return it ASAP if you can.

I just wish the 17" wasn't 1280x1024=squished.

1280x1024 is an LCD standard so the physical LCD size should match that resolution perfectly. 1280x1024 on a regulary CRT will look squished.


Doh. You are correct. I just realized that I was scaling the photo's from my digital camera, but they are at 1800x1200 and I thought they were 1600x1200.

FYI, before I realized my error, I actually measured the all my screen dimensions to try and figure out what I was doing wrong.

Sony G520 - 16"x12" = 1.333 - 100ppi
Dell FP1702 - 13.4"x10.6" =~ 1.25 (where 1280/1024 = 1.25) - about 95ppi
Dell C400 - 9.7"x7.3"=1.333 - about 105ppi

So, I've been happy all along and didn't even know it! Thanks for pointing this out Painkiller (how fitting a name in this case 🙂 )
 
Originally posted by: godspeedx
Originally posted by: BentValve
Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
My powerbook has 2 dead pixels stuck on red. It's only annoying if you get REALLY REALLY close to the screen and stare at them.


🙂 , thats the right attitude to have, hey man nothing in life is perfect, every CRT I have had has had some sort of flaw in it, and so far every LCD has been that way as well....hey so has
every mobo, video card and sound card I have ever owned...not to mention every woman as well. 😀


Lol, my CRT is puuuuurfect. 🙂


No its not, I guarantee I would find some flaws in it.

 
I have a 1800FP as well, and mine has 3 dead pixels. 2 at the very top of the screen, and one at the far right hand corner. Doesn't bother me. Hell, i didn't even realize i had any dead pixels until a couple of weeks passed.
 
Lol, my CRT is puuuuurfect.


I have even looked at 8 of the same exact monitor and found several differences in them and thats the
way it is, no monitor is alike.
My 2 G520Ps are only 150 serial numbers apart and yet they vary alot, I have them calibrated
so most people howcould not tell them apart ever I have no trouble telling them apart.
One of my G520Ps is so close to perfect that its scary. BTW I am reffering to color
when I say perfect , it can take litterally hours to adjust the color on a monitor perfectly.
I got very lucky on one of them as the color is unbelievable the other one is ok but nothing like the one.
Unless you are a videophile then you have no idea what a nearly perfect monitor can look like.
I doubt 99% of the population could tell my two G520s apart but that last 1% would study the same
super HQ high res pic on each monitor and he would without a doubt know which one is better. To
a videophile the difference is night and day...to most people there is no difference.

Bring it on home slice, I would chanllenge any monitor on earth to match the color quality of my
prized G520P.
 
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
I have a 1800FP as well, and mine has 3 dead pixels. 2 at the very top of the screen, and one at the far right hand corner. Doesn't bother me. Hell, i didn't even realize i had any dead pixels until a couple of weeks passed.


What color are they? 5 is too many for me...although yours are in decent locations.

 
How big is a pixel exactly, on the 1800FP specifically, mine will be arriving tomorrw(today actually) but this is only the second LCD I have really had a chance to take a good look at. The other being my moms non ultrasharp 15" from dell. I used the tools posted in this thread to check fro dead pixels on hers, and while I didn't see any, I am just wondering how noticeable they are. I did completely wipe off the dust from hers when i checked, and unless they are really small(smaller then what i am thinking) then i didn't see any. I wish i could see what one looks like so i know. Can anyone tell me the exact screen dimensions, the actual screen not the monitor itself.

Okay i just did some math, it seems to me that there are right around 90(give or take 1-2) pixels per inch, which would mean a pixel is .01" square, right? Or at least close to that, my calculator may be hacking off some digits. So say i draw a .01" square on my screen using autocad, and color it in with White or black or whatever color, will that show me what a pixel looks like, size wise, or am I totally confused?
 
Sort of. It's really not like that though. It lets the backlight shine through most of the time you see. It's a lot brighter than the rest of the pixels. Also, as the rest of the image shifts and that one bright pixel stays stationary, argh, it screws with your head.
 
Solution: get a black Sharpie and dot that sucker out..after awhile you'll forget all agout it!!..................😀
 
I thought I'd troll this up from the dead to try to keep eveyone abreast of the situation of 'dead pixels'. I just found out that you can smack a company with their ISO Standardization policy if they don't take it back : p Not that comforting, but it helps.

And for those wanting to know what one will look like, open up MsPaint, make the image the size of your full screen, get TRUE blie using the pencil tool [or any other primary/black/white color], and mark ONE dot [or more] on the screen, then go to 'ViewBitmap' in the menus. It's annoying as hell....

I'm going to start taking a diagnostic program in when I start looking for dead pixels in-store.
 
ISO policies really count. CTX TFTs in some counties were sold with guaranteed no dead pixels last year. In case a pixel would die, you can send it back (for 101days). I believe it's ISO13406-2. That's a quality customer service.
 
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