Dead meat : robotics

[Doc Savage Fan]

Well, then, we should be able to agree that the GOP is taking us in exactly the wrong direction.

Nope. I disagree.

 

[jackstar7]

I'm begging you guys to let it go. DSF does not engage in an honest way. It's never yielded anything worthwhile.

 

[bshole]

I guess I'm not surprised that you would actually think socialism is the answer to all our problems.

And for the record, I agree with Jhhnn....but the devil is in the details.

There is no answer to all our problems. There is a such a wide divergence of goals between individuals in America. The people with the most influence on our political system have goals diametrically opposed to the goals of most ordinary Americans.

If the middle class in America continues to slide into nonexistence, there is a real chance that truly representative government will follow it. Never has humanity been able to create such surplus at such a low labor cost. It seems reasonable that the surplus should not all go to a tiny sliver of the population. Why was the wealth distribution of the 1960s so repugnant to you? Taxes kept inequality to a reasonable level without harming innovation and entrepreneurship, while also spurring middle class growth. I haven't heard a single good argument why the wealthy should winning the war on labor and the middle class is a good thing for America. Please provide that argument here, I would be interested in reading it.

 

[Amused]

I guess I'm not surprised that you would actually think socialism is the answer to all our problems.

Do you support having a standing military?

That's a socialist ideal.

Do you support having a police force and fire department?

That's a socialist ideal.

Do you support public infrastructure and national parks?

That's a socialist ideal.

Do you support having a public justice system?

That's a socialist ideal.

Some socialism is needed for a society to exist and thrive. Any knee-jerk negative reaction to it without being well thought out is a sign of not thinking but blindly following an ideology that tells you it's "never good" while hypocritically supporting many aspects of it.

This is why I never bought into the full libertarian ideology. It's a pipe dream and counter to human nature. Left to their own, humans for the most part will NOT voluntarily contribute as much as they take. It is contrary to human nature.

Here's the pragmatic view: Power corrupts and humans are inherently corruptible. It matters little whether or not the human is involved in a public or private institution, the more power they have, the more corrupt they likely become. Socialized programs are not inherently bad just as privatized are not inherently good.

 

[Bitek]

I don't think this is really meant to be a production line as much as robot burger theater.

It is a production line as much as anything. They are taking raw materials and manufacturing a finished product. Fast food service relies on low costs and high efficiency. Next time you are at a to-order ff place like Subway or Chipotle take a look at the serving station and see the assembly line.

This is a poor solution to those means.

But I agree 100% is about the theatrics of it for building a brand identity.

 

[1sikbITCH]

I wonder if Doc looked up Luddite before calling liberals Luddites.

Lud·dite
ˈlədˌīt/
noun
plural noun: Luddites

1. a member of any of the bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, especially in cotton and woolen mills, that they believed was threatening their jobs (1811–16).
   • a person opposed to increased industrialization or new technology.
     "a small-minded Luddite resisting progress"

Liberals are not pushing to keep crappy jobs, liberals are pushing to fill them with immigrants and robots and give everyone a standard living wage. Let the machines do all the work.

The GOP are the Luddites trying to bring back coal, propping up the white supremacy movements, rolling back environmental rules back to the Puritan days, kicking foreigners out, killing solar companies, ignoring the Russian tech invasion. Naw Russian can't hack computers. That's liberal bullshit. Probably a fat kid.

 

[SMOGZINN]

It is a production line as much as anything. They are taking raw materials and manufacturing a finished product. Fast food service relies on low costs and high efficiency. Next time you are at a to-order ff place like Subway or Chipotle take a look at the serving station and see the assembly line.

Oh, I understand it is doing the job of a production line. I understand the workflow of a fast food joint. I just mean that his particular robot was designed to enhance the theater aspect of it instead of making a form that best fits the function of food production. This is meant to look like something out of a Gibson novel.

 

[justoh]

Work as we know it was a 19th century invention, and we're 100-200k+ years old. Conservatives (especially) lack perspective, "thinking" that the status quo is the result of revealed truth and the inevitability of "progress," also a 200 year old idea, a tiny fraction of our time spent as modern humans. Regular pay for regular work is what jesus would have wanted, though, probably, and to use our newfound industrial muscle to alter the shape of our planet, turning it into a great big hole in the ground. But what he never intended was for DSF to misuse Einstein. 🙁 Why? dsf. Why are we still here, just to suffer...

 

[bshole]

Why are we still here, just to suffer...

Pretty much the entire purpose of life summed up perfectly. What a sick joke for life dependent on purpose for happiness to evolve in a purposeless universe

 

[Bitek]

‘Flippy,’ the fast food robot, turned off for being too slow

http://www.chicagotribune.com/bluesky/technology/ct-flippy-fast-food-robot-slow-20180309-story.html

Gee, who would have known cooking a hamburger with an industrial six axis Scara robot could be so complicated?

For $60k, the robot can only do 150 burgers/hr, and still requires a lot of manual intervention in the workflow, and given current development time of 1yr just to cook a plain hamburger, don't expect any additions to the menu anytime soon.

Story went viral, bunch of people showed up to see, and they had to turn it off because it sucks

Meanwhile the smallest table top broiler conveyor can do 150/hr, cooks burgers, chicken etc, costs only a few grand, will suffer far less production breakdowns, and won't pin a worker to a grill while they tried to put on the cheese at the wrong time or drop your hamburger on the floor because you put the tray in the wrong place.

http://www.marshallair.com/conveyor_broilers.aspx