DEAD - 19" LCD Screen - $299.72, no rebates - Walmart

[kmmatney]

The pixel size and specs don't make sense!

19" LCD
1280 x 1024 resolution
0.264 pixel pitch


That can't be right! 19" LCDs have to have a pixel pitch of 0.294-0.297 for a resolution of 1280 x 1024.
I bet its a typo.

 

[kmmatney]

hah! They fixed the pixel size in the ad to the correct one: 0.296.

Looks like a pretty sweet deal - DVI connector no less!

 

[coconutace]

Good deal OP I would jump on it if I hadn't just bought the gm170-b Gem 17" from PCMall. It was $270 with an $80 rebate I will have to fight for since it goes to Panacer.... :|

For $299 and estimated $8.63 shipping you can't go wrong. The specs seem pretty good. I'm sure someone will post results as soon at it arrives. Or like someone said Walmarts are everywhere. See if its available B&M

 

[Achilles97]

Originally posted by: Bekker

Originally posted by: WT
In browsing throu Walmart, they have always carried KDS brand CRTs, so I'd assume this could very well be a KDS unit. I see no mention on the warranty on it tho ...

You have to look for additional details and follow the link to the warranty ... it is 13 months, but you can buy a 2 year extended for less than $30, or 3 year for something like $59.

I doubt that it is a KDS since they also sell that brand ... the price of the 17" KDS is about the same and it comes with 3 year advance exchange warranty. I am getting the Balance 19" and trying it and will probably exchange it for the KDS if I do not like it.

I was at Wal-Mart yesterday and I checked out their monitors. They had a 17" KDS lcd that seemed pretty nice. The basic design was almost exactly like this Balance 19". I wish they had the Balance in the store so we can check it out.

I'm interested in reading someone's experience with the monitor after they receive it. I'm might buy it, it's Wal-Mart, they'll take it back if it's not any good.

 

[Achilles97]

Dang, it's out of stock.

 

[Devistater]

Originally posted by: Achilles97
Dang, it's out of stock.

Yeah lol I was thinking about grabbing one.

 

[Spooner]

out of stock

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: kmmatney
The pixel size and specs don't make sense!

19" LCD
1280 x 1024 resolution
0.264 pixel pitch

That can't be right! 19" LCDs have to have a pixel pitch of 0.294-0.297 for a resolution of 1280 x 1024.
I bet its a typo.

That's what I was wondering. I agree though, I wouldn't want to buy a 19" LCD that only does 1280x1024, unless it was insanely cheap. Why stress your eyes with a coarser dot-pitch? I'm used to 19" CRTs that do 1600x1200. The fact that both 17" and 19" consumer panels are both limited to 1280x1024 should tell you something. I wouldn't doubt that due to the slightly-larger pixel sizes, at the same resolution, the 19" panels might possibly have less yield problems than the 17", simply because the physical pixel structures are larger. (The situation is equivalent to more expensive CRTs having a .23 DP, vs. el-cheapo CRTs with a much higher DP, like .28 or .31. The worse-DP ones are obviously cheaper to produce.)

The price is nice though, especially for one with DVI and no rebate.

 

[royaldank]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
That's what I was wondering. I agree though, I wouldn't want to buy a 19" LCD that only does 1280x1024, unless it was insanely cheap. Why stress your eyes with a coarser dot-pitch? I'm used to 19" CRTs that do 1600x1200. The fact that both 17" and 19" consumer panels are both limited to 1280x1024 should tell you something. I wouldn't doubt that due to the slightly-larger pixel sizes, at the same resolution, the 19" panels might possibly have less yield problems than the 17", simply because the physical pixel structures are larger. (The situation is equivalent to more expensive CRTs having a .23 DP, vs. el-cheapo CRTs with a much higher DP, like .28 or .31. The worse-DP ones are obviously cheaper to produce.)

The price is nice though, especially for one with DVI and no rebate.

Not sure if I've ever seen a 19" LCD running higher than 1280x1024. I use a 19" at work and the thing is great. Have you used an LCD before at a normal computer? When I initially saw the specs on the monitors I wasn't sure I wanted one. After getting it, I really like the size. I don't think it's too large or too small. It's quite comprable to the next resolution up on a CRT.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: royaldank
Not sure if I've ever seen a 19" LCD running higher than 1280x1024. I use a 19" at work and the thing is great. Have you used an LCD before at a normal computer? When I initially saw the specs on the monitors I wasn't sure I wanted one. After getting it, I really like the size. I don't think it's too large or too small. It's quite comprable to the next resolution up on a CRT.

Something that I just thought of, that could explain the reason for most 19" panels running at 1280x1024 - when they were originally first designed, I don't think that most DVI-D outputs could handle much above that, until they invented the "reduced blanking interval timing" feature to allow driving 1600x1200 signals by reducing the blanking period data sent over the DVI interface. I guess that, although you generally want a really good dot-pitch on a CRT, for sharp, accurate, text reproduction, the natural sharpness of an LCD display's pixels might well compensate for that. I've not seen that many 19" LCDs recently, although I briefly looked at one at BB tonight, most of my viewing experience has been with a friend's Gateway FP1800 (I think it was). It ghosts to all heck, I have no idea how he can stand to use it to play UT with. I'm still a major fan of huge high-res CRT displays myself, it's going to take more than the current crop of LCDs to change that, but if/when the prices drop low enough, I might pick one up for a nice slim secondary display.

Someone I know was looking at a MAG 19" LCD recently, I'll tell them to check this one out. When I go LCD myself, I still want a 1600x1200 one, I think.

 

[hifi]

man, was hoping if local store 'd match its online price, called them and guess what, NO.

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: nallur
Does 500:1 contrast ratio look too weak? Anyone with a monitor with that contrast ration care to comment?

500:1 is average

my AG has 700:1

might be hot!

 

[Rauthoen]

BACK IN STOCK!!

Anyone recieved this yet?? Was hoping the response time was 15ms and not 25ms total.
I emailed Wally's customer help to ask for a detailed spec/manual. Will update with the results.

 

[parsley007]

Originally posted by: Rauthoen
BACK IN STOCK!!

Anyone recieved this yet?? Was hoping the response time was 15ms and not 25ms total.
I emailed Wally's customer help to ask for a detailed spec/manual. Will update with the results.

it's still showing out of stock for me...is it showing in stock for anyone else?

 

[Nessism]

I receintly bought a 19" TFT because the text size on 17's and 19's is TOO SMALL. Talk about eye strain! And don't worry about corse pixle sizes, it's a non-issue.

Just my opinon of course.

 

[snowpeas]

I just want to warn some of you guys that this monitor might be crap. I bought a no name brand lcd monitor from staples during blackfriday because mine other lcd monitor broke. When i brought it back and tested it, it was shit. Even thought it was 16ms, i could still see ghosting, and on the very left and right side of the panel, it was different color than the middle of the panel. I returned it and got one from dell instead. You pay for wat you get. And since LCD technology is still not perfected yet, i would suggest some of you to just ignore this deal.

 

[puppyfriend]

That's quite a generalization. Just because you got one noname monitor that was bad then they all must be bad. I once bought a Jaguar that broke down every week. Hence all brand name luxury cars are crap. Buy a Hyundai!!!!

Originally posted by: snowpeas
I just want to warn some of you guys that this monitor might be crap. I bought a no name brand lcd monitor from staples during blackfriday because mine other lcd monitor broke. When i brought it back and tested it, it was shit. Even thought it was 16ms, i could still see ghosting, and on the very left and right side of the panel, it was different color than the middle of the panel. I returned it and got one from dell instead. You pay for wat you get. And since LCD technology is still not perfected yet, i would suggest some of you to just ignore this deal.

 

[Deucer]

I bought this for my dad for Christmas, and I think he will like it better than anything else I could get for $300. Even if this thing does not work well for games and has some relatively minor color issues, he won't notice. And if something major is wrong I will just have him return it to walmart. This was a perfect deal for me.

If I was getting a monitor for myself i wouldn't get in on this. I wouldn't want to play games on this monitor, and some of the minor inadequicies that my dad would never notice would drive me nuts. But this is still a great price with no rebates to hassle with (big bonus for presents - don't have to ask for a UPC afterwards). Thanks OP.

 

[sleepeeg3]

Originally posted by: ttalkman
HOLY CRAP, get it, return it if it's no good.
There surely is a walmart in your local neck of the woods.
They will take anything back, keep box and receipt.

I would be all over this if I hadn't just gotten a 17" lcd recently.
Remember, dead pixels, return it to local store.

Scr*w Wal-Mart. They've scr*wed us.

If you live in the woods, then there surely is a Wal-Mart.

For that price, I suppose it's worth looking at. No chance of gaming on it, though.

The thing that people fail to look at is - upgrade value. Spend a little more, get something with quality, sell it for proportionally more than the cheap one cost you, because it holds its value better and get another nice monitor. In the end, you probably invest less than $100 more initially and you get to enjoy a nicer screen for the rest of your life. :thumbsup:

The only time it's really worth spending less money is if you can get the exact same performance for less. It happens, but normally YGWYPF.

 

[Achilles97]

Do you really think the 25ms response time is too slow for gaming? I've never actually viewed an LCD in action other than this 50ms 17" POS at work, and I don't really notice ghosting when I play games on it.

Does anyone know the view angle on this thing?

Do you have to play games at the native resolution? Will they look like crap is played at 1024x768 when the native resolution is 1280x1024 ?

Thanks!

 

[tiejiba]

Originally posted by: Achilles97
Do you really think the 25ms response time is too slow for gaming? I've never actually viewed an LCD in action other than this 50ms 17" POS at work, and I don't really notice ghosting when I play games on it.

Does anyone know the view angle on this thing?

Do you have to play games at the native resolution? Will they look like crap is played at 1024x768 when the native resolution is 1280x1024 ?

Thanks!

I think website said that the response time was 15ms

 

[snowpeas]

Originally posted by: puppyfriend
That's quite a generalization. Just because you got one noname monitor that was bad then they all must be bad. I once bought a Jaguar that broke down every week. Hence all brand name luxury cars are crap. Buy a Hyundai!!!!

Originally posted by: snowpeas
I just want to warn some of you guys that this monitor might be crap. I bought a no name brand lcd monitor from staples during blackfriday because mine other lcd monitor broke. When i brought it back and tested it, it was shit. Even thought it was 16ms, i could still see ghosting, and on the very left and right side of the panel, it was different color than the middle of the panel. I returned it and got one from dell instead. You pay for wat you get. And since LCD technology is still not perfected yet, i would suggest some of you to just ignore this deal.

This why its a warning... I never said its crap. I'm just telling people my experiences and that they should be aware of the quality for the price that its at. Of course not everything pricey is good but mostly cheap means bad stuff. And as for jaguar... what can u expect. ford bought them and ford = american car. And yes All american car sux. Hows that for generalization?

 

[loukey]

Just want to point out that both that 15" and 17" balance are both .16ms response time, so I am more inclined to believe that this is a .16 as well, and they mistyped .15 instead of .16. (do you really think the data entry people for walmart.com have the specs for rise and fall time?)

 

[tiejiba]

Originally posted by: loukey
Just want to point out that both that 15" and 17" balance are both .16ms response time, so I am more inclined to believe that this is a .16 as well, and they mistyped .15 instead of .16. (do you really think the data entry people for walmart.com have the specs for rise and fall time?)

you make some sense , but we will see when the monitor gets to my door

 

[foolish501]

back in stock for me, which is nice seeing as i originally posted this, but when i had the money to buy one, they were oos !!