de plot really tickens in MN senate race.

[CaptnKirk]

Looks like they are counting the ballots that Coleman's lawyers have been trying to get excluded,
they have a better chance if they challenged, and now it's being evaluated for confirmation of intent.

There were many votes that were being disputed because they were originally excluded in error.
The Minnesota Supreme Cort ruled that a legal vote was a valid vote, correct the error, it counts.

 

[OrByte]

Whoever the loser ends up in this race is gonna squeeal like a stuck pig.

and so will his supporters.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Yes, because obviously if a Democrat wins, he cheated, if the Republican wins, it's the will of the people.

Nobody said anything about it being only a dem or rep, I'm sure it would work the same way if they were in TX for example, and the republican needed a little extra help.

Like I said, the results will speak for themselves, initial count Coleman wins, after the shenanigans, Franken will end up winning. I calls'em as I sees'em.

 

[ohnoes]

wow, there's so many idiots here today. Read 1 or 2 news article on it, and you'll know why the count dropped for Coleman. They counted the ballots on election night, but excluded counts from 'challenged' ballots by franken & coleman. So that means the original 300 or whatever lead didn't include ballots that both sides challenged.

In going through Franken's challenges, coleman's vote went up slightly, but when they went through Coleman's challenges, they found that alot of the challenges were bs clerical mistakes, and so thats why the significant swing happened. Coleman put out alot more bs challenges on election night to depress franken's count, and then when they went through his challenges, they rejected them. Hence frank caught up.

 

[ohnoes]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Yes, because obviously if a Democrat wins, he cheated, if the Republican wins, it's the will of the people.

Nobody said anything about it being only a dem or rep, I'm sure it would work the same way if they were in TX for example, and the republican needed a little extra help.

Like I said, the results will speak for themselves, initial count Coleman wins, after the shenanigans, Franken will end up winning. I calls'em as I sees'em.

That's because you're an idiot, and can't bother to read up on the news story pertaining to the situation.

 

[SleepWalkerX]

Hmm so many people care about how our votes don't matter.

 

[ohnoes]

no matter how you slice it, it's pretty f'ing ridiculous that out of the millions of votes in MN, the race comes down to like a dozen votes.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: ohnoes
wow, there's so many idiots here today. Read 1 or 2 news article on it, and you'll know why the count dropped for Coleman. They counted the ballots on election night, but excluded counts from 'challenged' ballots by franken & coleman. So that means the original 300 or whatever lead didn't include ballots that both sides challenged.

In going through Franken's challenges, coleman's vote went up slightly, but when they went through Coleman's challenges, they found that alot of the challenges were bs clerical mistakes, and so thats why the significant swing happened. Coleman put out alot more bs challenges on election night to depress franken's count, and then when they went through his challenges, they rejected them. Hence frank caught up.

I'm still utterly clueless how the hell Franken's leading even after reading a dozen articles. They're not counting non-challagened ballots? The fuck? Ugh...

 

[Auryg]

Originally posted by: ohnoes
no matter how you slice it, it's pretty f'ing ridiculous that out of the millions of votes in MN, the race comes down to like a dozen votes.

And I voted for the third party candidate because I didn't like either of em. I could have decided the race damnit

 

[cubby1223]

(1) Coleman wins
(2) _________ happens
(3) Franken wins
(4) Profit?

This'll never be resolved, they'll have to go to the Thunderdome.

 

[venkman]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
486 dx4 100 oc'ed 120mhz on 40mhz bus from 33
PCI motherboard 256k cache
256mb ram
8meg Matrox millineum II pci card
4 2.1gb hard drives

You got 256 megs of ram in your 486?!?!!? Duke Nukem 3D must run like a freakin' champ. I had to use a boot disk to get it running on my 486DX66 with 8 MB Ram.

 

[ohnoes]

Originally posted by: Tab
I'm still utterly clueless how the hell Franken's leading even after reading a dozen articles. They're not counting non-challagened ballots? The fuck? Ugh...

The process by which the Senate race has come to this stage is often confusing. Coleman held an approximately 200-vote lead after the state went through a hand recount of all ballots. However, there remained approximately 1,500 ballots that one or the other campaign contested (and temporarily removed from the overall vote tally). Coleman challenged about 1,000 of these, Franken the rest.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, the canvassing board considered Franken's challenges, which gave a slight gain to Coleman's lead (Franken, after all, was challenging ballots that were, perhaps erroneously, awarded to Coleman during the recount). But the Franken campaign also gained some votes during the two days; the canvassing board awarded him dozens of ballots that had been wrongfully determined to be non-votes or under-votes.

Coleman had more BS challenges that lowered Franken's overall count, and so when those BS challenges got rejected, Franken's count went up significantly.

Again, there's so many idiots here. I think PokerGuy is more of a FishGuy. Perhaps even a DonkeyGuy.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Based on my understanding, the Coleman lead significantly dropped because they went through Coleman's challenges first, meaning many Franken votes that were set aside have been readded to the vote totals. I'm assuming they will be going through Franken's challenges next, and thus Coleman's lead will go back up.

coleman also challenged more votes, based on the idea that if you lead going into the challenges people will take offense to the other person winning due to questionable votes

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Yes, because obviously if a Democrat wins, he cheated, if the Republican wins, it's the will of the people.

Nobody said anything about it being only a dem or rep, I'm sure it would work the same way if they were in TX for example, and the republican needed a little extra help.

Like I said, the results will speak for themselves, initial count Coleman wins, after the shenanigans, Franken will end up winning. I calls'em as I sees'em.

what are these shenigans, so far noone has provided any evidence.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: ohnoes

Originally posted by: Tab
I'm still utterly clueless how the hell Franken's leading even after reading a dozen articles. They're not counting non-challagened ballots? The fuck? Ugh...

The process by which the Senate race has come to this stage is often confusing. Coleman held an approximately 200-vote lead after the state went through a hand recount of all ballots. However, there remained approximately 1,500 ballots that one or the other campaign contested (and temporarily removed from the overall vote tally). Coleman challenged about 1,000 of these, Franken the rest.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, the canvassing board considered Franken's challenges, which gave a slight gain to Coleman's lead (Franken, after all, was challenging ballots that were, perhaps erroneously, awarded to Coleman during the recount). But the Franken campaign also gained some votes during the two days; the canvassing board awarded him dozens of ballots that had been wrongfully determined to be non-votes or under-votes.

Coleman had more BS challenges that lowered Franken's overall count, and so when those BS challenges got rejected, Franken's count went up significantly.

Again, there's so many idiots here. I think PokerGuy is more of a FishGuy. Perhaps even a DonkeyGuy.

So, Al Franken is actually ahead by 250 votes but not including 1,000 challanged votes or the absentee ballots?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ohnoes

Originally posted by: Tab
I'm still utterly clueless how the hell Franken's leading even after reading a dozen articles. They're not counting non-challagened ballots? The fuck? Ugh...

The process by which the Senate race has come to this stage is often confusing. Coleman held an approximately 200-vote lead after the state went through a hand recount of all ballots. However, there remained approximately 1,500 ballots that one or the other campaign contested (and temporarily removed from the overall vote tally). Coleman challenged about 1,000 of these, Franken the rest.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, the canvassing board considered Franken's challenges, which gave a slight gain to Coleman's lead (Franken, after all, was challenging ballots that were, perhaps erroneously, awarded to Coleman during the recount). But the Franken campaign also gained some votes during the two days; the canvassing board awarded him dozens of ballots that had been wrongfully determined to be non-votes or under-votes.

Coleman had more BS challenges that lowered Franken's overall count, and so when those BS challenges got rejected, Franken's count went up significantly.

Again, there's so many idiots here. I think PokerGuy is more of a FishGuy. Perhaps even a DonkeyGuy.

So, Al Franken is actually ahead by 250 votes but not including 1,000 challanged votes or the absentee ballots?

i think all those votes have been counted

 

[zephyrprime]

People have to admit that voting has a limited measurement resolution like all measurement methods and devices do. When the election falls within epsilon, a runoff may be the best way to determine this.

 

[Stiganator]

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[Lemon law]

For what its worth, here is the 538.com take which I found on the NYT website.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com...ely-to-lead-after.html

But even 538.com admits its all fuzzy math and much doubt will remain after Dec 31. Everyone seems unwilling to step up to the plate and make the tough calls, including the Minnesota supreme court.

As a partisan dem, I may want Franken to win, but still, its in everyone's best interests to have a victor both sides accept as the winner. If that victor happens to be Coleman, so be it. If its Franken, so be it.

 

[PokerGuy]

Just as I suspected and predicted. Coleman won after the initial count, then after the shenanigans are all done, Franken will end up winning. Some of you dolts can call me names all you like, but it's going down exactly as predicted. As I said before, had the parties/roles been reversed and this was taking place in TX, I'd expect the republican to come out the winner, no matter what the initial results.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I voted for Coleman but am deeply ambivalent about the whole thing. Frankly I wish we had provisions for a runoff, because no matter how this plays out it will be a rather suspect election.

 

[ohnoes]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Just as I suspected and predicted. Coleman won after the initial count, then after the shenanigans are all done, Franken will end up winning. Some of you dolts can call me names all you like, but it's going down exactly as predicted. As I said before, had the parties/roles been reversed and this was taking place in TX, I'd expect the republican to come out the winner, no matter what the initial results.

and you're still a retard for not understanding why the numbers shifted, and instead just assuming that the votes were 'given' to franken. read much donkey?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Maybe we can have a runoff election between just the two of them to settle this mess.

That might be too easy and it might make too much sense.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: ohnoes
no matter how you slice it, it's pretty f'ing ridiculous that out of the millions of votes in MN, the race comes down to like a dozen votes.

Gotta give those write-in candidates like "Lizard King" a lot of credit for futzing up this election. However, it is providing a gaggle of national entertainment.

 

[bozack]

Why is it a big surprise that the dems in that state are manufacturing votes for their guy...business as usual.