Dazzle DV-Editor SE $19.88 @ OD BM

Maverick319

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Nice deal on a Two Port Firewire card. Better luck finding these at OD than Wal-Mart even it WM was $15.00.

Microsoft is not going to initially support USB 2.0 in Windows XP, thus cementing a stronger relationship with Apple as MS invested quite a bit of money in Apple.

For 20 bucks, I may just head on over to OD tomorrow and see if I can score one. I don't have a Firewire device yet, but a MiniDV Camcorder is in my future...


Updated from Zwingle's info. I read the info about XP in the July issue of Mobile Computing, and it appears they didn't quite understand what MS was saying. (Imagine That)

Here is an article on USB OnTheGo, which is interesting.
 

hasu

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It tried in both places. I could not find one. can anybody give me the sku#?
thanks
 

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Microsoft is not going to support USB 2.0 in Windows XP, thus cementing a stronger relationship with Apple as MS invested quite a bit of money in Apple.

Not quite.....Microsoft will not support USB 2.0 at release of WinXP, but will support USB 2.0 with add on drivers after the release of XP. They feel there is not enough devices for USB 2.0 and will support it once more devices are available.

Quote from this Link

"Certain features failed to make the cut in Windows XP, and the fates of others are still uncertain. As expected, Windows XP initially will not offer support for USB 2.0, even though the first add-in cards and peripherals supporting the technology are already available.

The new version of the USB standard for connecting devices such as portable storage and keyboards boosts throughput to 480mbps (megabits per second), up from 12mbps for version 1.1.

"USB 2.0, that is something we are committed to, but it will be post-launch when we ship the drivers," Shawn Sanford, Microsoft's Windows group product manager said.
 

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I just picked up the last one at the Blossom Hill OM for 19.88. It was opened but I can return it for refund if it doesn't work.
I have a question for anyone out there. The card is model IDT 481 PCI made by Indigita. It is the same as their model 480pci except it doesn't have full bus power. Does anyone know if a non powered bus firewire card will work with any of the other firewire devices such as a HD or CDRW? What is the advantage for having a full bus powered card. I was wondering because 20 seems like a good price just for the card alone, but if it only will support a DV camcorder I am not sure if its worth it. Any responses will be greatly appreciated.;)
 

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I saw plenty of these still in my local OD today, along with the USB version for the same price ($19.88 on clearance).

Anybody know which version is better? I presume the USB version is bandwidth limited relative to the PCI firewire version.

Can I use the included firewire card as a standalone card for connection with any firewire device, or is it limited to use with the video editing software + digital video cameras?
 

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I sent an e-mail to Indigita.com, which makes the firewire card. The one included with the DV editor SE is non-bus powered (its part number is 481 as opposed to model 480), which is bus powered. This is a link to the 480 card, here. The support person sent me an e-mail saying that most devices, (CDRW, HD, etc), have their own power source so this card would also work for other firewire devices. He told me the need for bus power would be for a portable hard drive, or something else that needed the power source at the card. I guess for 20.00, its a good deal for the card and the editing software.

The SKU # is 652-691

Piblokto: Which USB device is marked to 19.88? There are 3 or 4 USB editors that Dazzle makes. They make a cheap one that only works with Windows ME, and one that has higher resolution that costs 200-250, (my boss owns one), plus a couple in between. The USB devices, if I am correct will transfer video from an analog camcorder, The DV editor (SE, the 2 port model and the regular model with 3-ports) are for Digital camcorders.

The difference between the DV SE model with 2 firewire posts and the gerular version with 3 ports is the SE uses MPG-1 only and the more expensive 3 port model is for MPG 1 and 2.
 

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Esquared,

Sorry, I didn't get the exact USB version or the SKU, nor am I now sure that it is the USB equivalent of the PCI fireware card. I tried to locate the USB version on the Dazzle website, but couldn't locate it (for sure) under their product listings. The packaging of the product at OD, however, can be found on this page:

http://www.dazzle.com/buy/trade.html

It's about halfway down the page, in a blue/purple box, and it's called the "Dazzle Digital Photo (& Video) Maker". That is the exact packaging of the $19.88 product at OD. Hope that helps.
 

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IF someone would like to purchase one for me, I would also be glad to reimburse you for your troubles.

Thanks
Ariel
 

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<< The difference between the DV SE model with 2 firewire posts and the gerular version with 3 ports is the SE uses MPG-1 only and the more expensive 3 port model is for MPG 1 and 2. >>



Is the difference stated a hardware or software limitation. Even for $20, it may not be worth it to get this if it only is capable of MPG1.



Also

Disk Space: 85 MB of hard disk space to install software. 2GB of hard disk space for every 10 minutes of finished movie.Hard disk drive must be capable of sustained throughput of 4 MB/sec. (All SCSI and most UDMA drives will work).

2GB for 10Min of finished movie? What the heck???
 

MuffD

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I've got a VIA chipset Firewire card and just for 20 seconds of video, it took 75 mb.
 

Mangos

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Emonkey, I do a lot of video editing on my Vaio Slimtop, it only has 30 gigs of HD space. Digital Video straight out of a DV-Cam makes HUGE files. Use Adobe Premiere or something of the sort to trim down the size. I edited an 18 gig dance concert down to 1.4 gigs, perfect for two CDs.

This is a pretty hot deal, I'm not in though, my computer came with Firewire. :)