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IceBergSLiM

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That is fine, but it's chili beans and not chili that you enjoy.

For sure, I like some chili bean recipes as well and you should make what you enjoy. I'm just saying you most likely haven't had good chili before because you honestly won't even miss the beans.

No it is a different dish. The same way crepes and pancakes are a different dish. You change an integral part of the dish by adding beans which are meant as a meat replacement. The problem doesn't come from you liking chili beans over chili, it just comes from you miss using the term chili to mean chili beans.

see above wikipedia says its the same dish as a variation. like chocolate chip pancakes are still pancakes.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Never in my nearly 33 years of existence on this planet have I ever heard it called "chili beans".

If someone asked me if I was having chili beans I'd look at them like they were retarded. The chili beans go in the chili. That pot on the stove simmering isn't "chili beans"...it's chili.

this too.
 

xanis

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this

Never in my nearly 33 years of existence on this planet have I ever heard it called "chili beans".

If someone asked me if I was having chili beans I'd look at them like they were retarded. The chili beans go in the chili. That pot on the stove simmering isn't "chili beans"...it's chili.

and this

see above wikipedia says its the same dish as a variation. like chocolate chip pancakes are still pancakes.
 

ElFenix

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Never in my nearly 33 years of existence on this planet have I ever heard it called "chili beans".

If someone asked me if I was having chili beans I'd look at them like they were retarded. The chili beans go in the chili. That pot on the stove simmering isn't "chili beans"...it's chili.

i'd never heard it living in texas for decades. the only people who've ever mentioned it are yankees and californians here. and i don't care for their opinions on the subject.
 

DougK62

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That looks like a fun recipe. I always use a can of Rotel in my chili recipes - love that stuff!
 

mb

Lifer
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Oh man you know what might be good to add to some chili? Gnocchi.

mmmmmmm gnocchi chili
 

bfdd

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See I knew something was up. Where's the flour or maize to thicken it? See you use 1.5 lbs of ground turkey where as I would use 2+ without beans and use chuck cut up instead. It's quite a different dish without the beans.
 

ponyo

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Looks good, op. I made some last week similar to yours. As for people arguing about beans in chili, who gives a shit. Add them if you like or don't if not.
 

Sho'Nuff

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YACT (yet another chili thread)? Someone has to make the following recipe so that I can have independent validation that it is, in fact, the best damn chili recipe on earth.

It was developed by a guy named Don Ingerski. Don was a police officer, and passed away last year (RIP). The website that used to host this recipe (which Don named, "Motor Squad Heat") has been taken down since his passing, but I am posting it here and elsewhere to preserve it for everyone to enjoy. I certainly have, and one day I plan on contacting Ms. Ingerski to let her know just how much I have enjoyed her husband's Chili.

And the recipe needs further validation, I will say that Don used it to win many Chili competitions in the 1990's and early 2000's.

Enjoy:

From http://www.designbydon.com/ingerski/chili.html. Best damn chili on earth

* 1 and 1/2 lbs of ground beef
* 2 medium green peppers
* 2 large onions (not Bermudas)
* 8-15 jalepeno peppers
* 1 large can of kidney beans
* 1 16oz can of "tomatoes for cooking"
* 1 small can of black beans
* Two 29oz. cans of tomato sauce
* 1/2 tsp of garlic (or to taste)
* 1 packet of "Sweet n Low"
* 1 capful of Liquid Smoke



* 1 tbls of Worcester sauce
* 1 tbls of A-1 Steak Sauce
* 4 tbls of BBQ sauce
* 1.5 oz. of chili powder
* 1 tsp of cumin
* 1 tsp of allspice or 1/2 tsp of cinnamon
* 1 tbl of Cayenne pepper (or to taste)
* 1 tbls of Lawry's Seasoned Salt (or its equivalent)
* 1 tbls of pepper
* 2 tbls of vinegar
* 1 cup of beer
* 1 tlbsp of Hershey's Cocoa

Brown the ground beef and break up to fine pieces while browning. DRAIN ALL GREASE. Mince up (easy with a food processor) the onions, green peppers, and jalepenos. Add the minced stuff to the hamburger. Drain the juices to the cans of kidney and pinto beans and "cooking tomatoes". Also, while the whole tomatoes are in the can, take a knife and mince them up also. Add all of these and remaining ingredients, stir well, and bring chili to a boil. Simmer at lowest heat while covered for two hours. Serve up with tortilla chips and shredded cheddar cheese for topping if desired.
 

xanis

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See I knew something was up. Where's the flour or maize to thicken it? See you use 1.5 lbs of ground turkey where as I would use 2+ without beans and use chuck cut up instead. It's quite a different dish without the beans.

Crap, good call my man. Added some in... much better now. :)
 

QueBert

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see above wikipedia says its the same dish as a variation. like chocolate chip pancakes are still pancakes.

But they're not simply Pancakes, they're Pancakes with chocolate chips. You'll never get chocolate chip pancakes from a restaurant unless you specifically order them that way. Same with a White Pizza, and even a hamburger, unless it says cheeseburger on the menu you're not going to get one with cheese. Chili should be the same, if it contains beans SAY SO ON THE FUCKING MENU. But a lot of restaurant's are clueless fuckers.

People would be up in arms if they ordered Pancakes and got ones with chocolate chips in them.
 

vi edit

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* 1 and 1/2 lbs of ground beef
* 2 medium green peppers
* 2 large onions (not Bermudas)
* 8-15 jalepeno peppers
* 1 large can of kidney beans
* 1 16oz can of "tomatoes for cooking"
* 1 small can of black beans
* Two 29oz. cans of tomato sauce
* 1/2 tsp of garlic (or to taste)
* 1 packet of "Sweet n Low"
* 1 capful of Liquid Smoke

I'm pretty resilient to heat (I grow habaneros) but 8-15 jalapenos seems like quite a bit for that volume of chili.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Eveyone argues about beans or no beans, but none seem to notice the first two posters called for ground turkey! Thats just wrong! There is no turkey in chili!
 

vi edit

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Eveyone argues about beans or no beans, but none seem to notice the first two posters called for ground turkey! Thats just wrong! There is no turkey in chili!

So you have a beef against foul chili?
 

mb

Lifer
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Eveyone argues about beans or no beans, but none seem to notice the first two posters called for ground turkey! Thats just wrong! There is no turkey in chili!
I used ground chicken once instead of turkey but it's much better with turkey.
 

mvbighead

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WTF is white pizza? Did you punch him in the ovaries for being such a bitch?

It's cheesy goodness is what it is. Chicken, alfredo sauce, mozz and any other number of things. Definitely an enjoyable pizza when one isn't looking for typical pizza sauce.
 

bfdd

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see above wikipedia says its the same dish as a variation. like chocolate chip pancakes are still pancakes.

it's not the same as chocolate chips in a pancake. beans are used as a meat substitute. they are used to replace or minimize the usage of one of the main ingredients. That changes the core of the dish. completely different than adding chocolate chips to pancakes.
 

vi edit

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it's not the same as chocolate chips in a pancake. beans are used as a meat substitute. they are used to replace or minimize the usage of one of the main ingredients. That changes the core of the dish. completely different than adding chocolate chips to pancakes.

Umm, but we aren't using them as a substitute. They are in *addition* to meat. I know that's an incredibly hard concept for you to understand, but please know that the sun will continue to rise and the sky will continue to be blue if people do it that way.
 

ElFenix

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it's not the same as chocolate chips in a pancake. beans are used as a meat substitute. they are used to replace or minimize the usage of one of the main ingredients. That changes the core of the dish. completely different than adding chocolate chips to pancakes.

it'd be one thing if you were talking about vegetarian chili (an abomination). but we're not.
 

bfdd

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Umm, but we aren't using them as a substitute. They are in *addition* to meat. I know that's an incredibly hard concept for you to understand, but please know that the sun will continue to rise and the sky will continue to be blue if people do it that way.

meat is taken out of the recipe. if he was going beanless he would have more ground turkey and probably use pork shoulder or something cut into small chunks since it seems he doesn't want to use beef.
 

ElFenix

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meat is taken out of the recipe. if he was going beanless he would have more ground turkey and probably use pork shoulder or something cut into small chunks since it seems he doesn't want to use beef.

meat is only taken out if you're making commercial stuff that has to fit into a certain volume can. that's like paying for corn and potatoes with your crawfish. but we're not talking about that either.

turkey and pork shoulder belong in green chili and green chili only.
 

bfdd

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it'd be one thing if you were talking about vegetarian chili (an abomination). but we're not.

Look when I make the same amount of chili I use far more peppers,diced jalapenos and habaneros. Chili powder, or I make my own with a mix of various different powdered chilis. Chumin, 2 lbs of ground beef, 1.5lbs of beef chuck cubed into 1/2" to 3/4". Big chunks of bell pepper, flour or maize depending on how I'm feeling. 4 Bell peppers cut into chunks, not very big, but not very small either. I use beer, normally High Life, 1 32oz covers it. As far as hot sauce I add, lately I have enjoyed lousiana habanero hot sauce to add in. some msg, black pepper, i crush up and dice finely a few garlic cloves. oh and just a little bit of tomato paste, like some recipes i've seen say use a whole like little can, 6oz, i probably use half or just a little less.

pretty jumbled mess ^, but that's how my mind is working right now sorry.


meat is only taken out if you're making commercial stuff that has to fit into a certain volume can. that's like paying for corn and potatoes with your crawfish. but we're not talking about that either.

turkey and pork shoulder belong in green chili and green chili only.
I don't make chili with turkey and if i use pork it's a lb of ground pork added into the mix in a 1/3rd or 1/2 ratio to ground beef and still with the cubed beef chuck.