David Coverdale or Robert Plant?

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stormkroe

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I'd like to tell you guys how great Robert Plant is, and thanks to this one simple trick, I can do it at home, making $3,755.13 per week while being a 70 year old Canadian grandmother that looks 27 with her free ipad!!!
 

KlokWyze

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Out of all the brilliant bands of that age I rate Zeppelin a lot lower than most their peers. That's not talking them down at all. I just felt like they were always a bit cheesy. Stairway to Heaven is the cherry on top.

I have to agree to a degree. Plant's voice is a bit to high, but I wouldn't say it's THAT feminine.

Can't comment on Cloverdale at all so you can just tag my post as unrelated. Love Here I Go Again though... cheesy, but AMAZING.
 

IGBT

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plant destroyed his voice with heavy cigarette smoking. Had he not smoked his present day voice (and appearance) may be very different. I recall Roy Orbison sounded nearly identical to his younger self possibly better in later life..to the best of my knowledge Orbison didn't smoke. Coverdale is a better technical singer then Plant and prob.had early on voice training that allowed him to make the most of and preserve his voice. As far as voice preservation and getting better with age Shirley Bassey gets the gold star. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Wg6k9cWhM

Shirley at 70. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqNcyFNMfLM
 
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WelshBloke

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...this is not a rock forum. How many posts until you start trying to spam us junk to sell?
Nah, more like how many posts until we get walls of text explaining how Plant would beat a tiger in a fight but that Coverdale would lose to a lion.
 

Rocker Girl

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oh, I see you'll fit in well around here...for the remaining ~4 days of your tenure.

are you also known as Silver Prime, or perhaps Mayne?
:hmm:

Zinfamous .. lol .. yes, it looks like I will fit in around here .. for at least 4 days :p ... and no, I am not known as Silver Prime or Mayne .. obviously too bad for you .. hahahaha. j/k

Have a great day!
 

Rocker Girl

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plant destroyed his voice with heavy cigarette smoking. Had he not smoked his present day voice (and appearance) may be very different. I recall Roy Orbison sounded nearly identical possibly better in later life..to the best of my knowledge Orbison didn't smoke. Coverdale is a better technical singer then Plant and prob.had early on voice training that allowed him to make the most of and preserve his voice. As far as voice preservation and getting better with age Shirley Bassey gets the gold star. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Wg6k9cWhM

IGBT .. I have to agree with you! Although Plant's voice is still fairly decent, it has been destroyed by smoking! He can't hit those high notes anymore .. What a shame, especially if there ever was a small chance of a reunion! I have heard so many of the older, great bands that still sound amazing! David Coverdale is one of those singers! His voice still sounds great! Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth both sound great also! Actually Hagar sounds amazing! Hall and Oates too! Steven Tyler also sounds AMAZING, however, even though he can still hit those high notes, he is selective in his song lineup as to save his voice .. can't blame him! They have all smoked heavily at one time, however, Robert Plant still smokes! I've always loved Robert Plant's voice, however, I do think that in these seasoned years David Coverdale has a smoother/stronger voice then Robert Plant .. not a better voice .. just more of a time honored voice! Luckily for him .. for all of them!

Not trying to get off topic, but here is one of the best songs EVER by a "crazy" but fabulous guitarist, a vocalist that is still fabulous after all of these years, and never got enough credit, and a song that is the best that I've ever heard!

Ted Nugent, 'Stranglehold'(co-wrote with Derek St. Holmes, and vocals by Derek St. Holmes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c3d7QgZr7g (original studio version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHDA5nHlDrQ (Live 2008)

Enjoy!
 

IGBT

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IGBT .. I have to agree with you! Although Plant's voice is still fairly decent, it has been destroyed by smoking! He can't hit those high notes anymore .. What a shame, especially if there ever was a small chance of a reunion! I have heard so many of the older, great bands that still sound amazing! David Coverdale is one of those singers! His voice still sounds great! Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth both sound great also! Actually Hagar sounds amazing! Hall and Oates too! Steven Tyler also sounds AMAZING, however, even though he can still hit those high notes, he is selective in his song lineup as to save his voice .. can't blame him! They have all smoked heavily at one time, however, Robert Plant still smokes! I've always loved Robert Plant's voice, however, I do think that in these seasoned years David Coverdale has a smoother/stronger voice then Robert Plant .. not a better voice .. just more of a time honored voice! Luckily for him .. for all of them!

Not trying to get off topic, but here is one of the best songs EVER by a "crazy" but fabulous guitarist, a vocalist that is still fabulous after all of these years, and never got enough credit, and a song that is the best that I've ever heard!

Ted Nugent, 'Stranglehold'(co-wrote with Derek St. Holmes, and vocals by Derek St. Holmes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c3d7QgZr7g (original studio version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHDA5nHlDrQ (Live 2008)

Enjoy!



..I didn't realize Plant still smokes.


Roy Orbison a few years before he passed away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PLq0_7k1jk
 

Rocker Girl

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IGBT ...I think he quit smoking cigarettes years ago, but still parties on occasion..lol, and smokes pot! I'm sure that he realizes what the partying did to his life! He made a lot of unwise choices, as we all do at such a young age, and no voice training, along with vocal nodules hurt his voice a lot! Funny how all of these big bands partied hard, but most of them still look pretty good! I suppose a hard life affects people differently!

I forgot to tell you that I listened to Shirley Bassey .. and WOW .. what a voice! She's still amazing! So is Roy Orbison .. loved that video .. and what a star studded lineup! I even saw Billy Idol sitting in the audience!

Thanks for sharing:)
 

zinfamous

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Don't know...a buddy of mine is a professional opera singer, and he says that smoking and boozing really aren't a big deal to your vocal chords. I mean, sounds strange to me, but I value his opinion over most others.
 

IGBT

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2222330

Abstract

The human larynx is essential not only for speech, but also for swallowing and respiration. Its tissues are affected by the presence of alcohol and cigarette smoke. In this report we present our findings on the effects of smoking and drinking on histological changes in laryngeal tissue. The larynges studied were those of autopsy patients: cases with damaged tissue were excluded. We studied the larynges of 84 men (non-smoker and non-drinker, 22 cases; smoker and drinker, 62 cases) and 48 women (non-smoker and non-drinker, 40 cases; smoker and drinker, 8 cases) between the ages of 12 and 88. The squamous metaplasia of laryngeal epithelium was examined using the gross staining method (Pyronin Y) of STELL et al. (J. Laryngeal. Otol. 86: 589-594, 1972). The squamous epithelium is unstained, whereas the respiratory epithelium is a brilliant red. The area of metaplasia in the supraglottic region increased with aging, tobacco and alcohol consumption. Microscopic changes of the laryngeal epithelium were investigated using the hematoxylin-eosin staining method. The thickness of epithelium of the supraglottic region and vocal cord increased with age. There is a significant difference in the thickness of the epithelium of the supraglottic region and vocal cords of smoking and drinking patients, when compared with the same tissues of non-smokers and non-drinkers. Furthermore, there is a significant difference in those tissues of the supraglottic region of heavy smokers, when compared with light smokers, but no significant difference when compared with drinkers. However, there is no significant difference in the thickness of vocal cord tissues when comparing light smokers and drinkers on the one hand, and heavy smokers and drinkers on the other.
 

zinfamous

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2222330

Abstract

The human larynx is essential not only for speech, but also for swallowing and respiration. Its tissues are affected by the presence of alcohol and cigarette smoke. In this report we present our findings on the effects of smoking and drinking on histological changes in laryngeal tissue. The larynges studied were those of autopsy patients: cases with damaged tissue were excluded. We studied the larynges of 84 men (non-smoker and non-drinker, 22 cases; smoker and drinker, 62 cases) and 48 women (non-smoker and non-drinker, 40 cases; smoker and drinker, 8 cases) between the ages of 12 and 88. The squamous metaplasia of laryngeal epithelium was examined using the gross staining method (Pyronin Y) of STELL et al. (J. Laryngeal. Otol. 86: 589-594, 1972). The squamous epithelium is unstained, whereas the respiratory epithelium is a brilliant red. The area of metaplasia in the supraglottic region increased with aging, tobacco and alcohol consumption. Microscopic changes of the laryngeal epithelium were investigated using the hematoxylin-eosin staining method. The thickness of epithelium of the supraglottic region and vocal cord increased with age. There is a significant difference in the thickness of the epithelium of the supraglottic region and vocal cords of smoking and drinking patients, when compared with the same tissues of non-smokers and non-drinkers. Furthermore, there is a significant difference in those tissues of the supraglottic region of heavy smokers, when compared with light smokers, but no significant difference when compared with drinkers. However, there is no significant difference in the thickness of vocal cord tissues when comparing light smokers and drinkers on the one hand, and heavy smokers and drinkers on the other.

--turns to peer-reviewed research when it supports his "anti-doper" rage rants

--utterly ignores all instances of peer-reviewed research when it comes to climate science. (well, except for the less than 1% that try to reject the consensus)

sounds about right. :D
 

IGBT

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IGBT ...I think he quit smoking cigarettes years ago, but still parties on occasion..lol, and smokes pot! I'm sure that he realizes what the partying did to his life! He made a lot of unwise choices, as we all do at such a young age, and no voice training, along with vocal nodules hurt his voice a lot! Funny how all of these big bands partied hard, but most of them still look pretty good! I suppose a hard life affects people differently!

I forgot to tell you that I listened to Shirley Bassey .. and WOW .. what a voice! She's still amazing! So is Roy Orbison .. loved that video .. and what a star studded lineup! I even saw Billy Idol sitting in the audience!

Thanks for sharing:)


I suspect at the time Roy did that performance he knew his heart condition was getting worse..he wanted to do one really good last performance with friends. "A Black And White Night" is how he wanted to be remembered. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Orbison_and_Friends:_A_Black_and_White_Night


Shirley is still going strong. They should have used her to do that last James Bond theme. Who ever that person was that did the last theme song was terrible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Bassey
 
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If you saw Coverdale in his prime don't try to revisit him today. It is hideous.

If Robert Plant ever decided to go on a Led Zep tour I would do everything I could to see a show or two; even knowing he can no longer hit the high notes. Don't care. He can still perform. I love watching Celebration Day.
 

IGBT

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--turns to peer-reviewed research when it supports his "anti-doper" rage rants

--utterly ignores all instances of peer-reviewed research when it comes to climate science. (well, except for the less than 1% that try to reject the consensus)

sounds about right. :D


..your not the only one with selective indignation.
 

ringtail

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Robert Plant belongs in life-sentence prison for stealing-for-self-enrichmetnt the creative intellectual properties of Negroe musicians of the US Mussissippi delta.

There is no controversy, this is FACT.
Robert Plant is a TRULY evil person.
 

blankslate

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Robert Plant belongs in life-sentence prison for stealing-for-self-enrichmetnt the creative intellectual properties of Negroe musicians of the US Mussissippi delta.

There is no controversy, this is FACT.
Robert Plant is a TRULY evil person.

At least Elvis had the decency to drug himself almost to death eh?

Then cap it off with a NSFW
Kuzo Shite Shinezo

....
 

Craig234

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Out of all the brilliant bands of that age I rate Zeppelin a lot lower than most their peers. That's not talking them down at all. I just felt like they were always a bit cheesy.

That's way off in my opinion. The only band I rank above them is the Beatles, with Pink Floyd just behind (though my 'best album' goes to Floyd).
 

Rocker Girl

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Don't know...a buddy of mine is a professional opera singer, and he says that smoking and boozing really aren't a big deal to your vocal chords. I mean, sounds strange to me, but I value his opinion over most others.

Zinfamous ... IGBT posted a wealth of information regarding smoking and the damage that can be done! I am glad that your friend, being a professional opera singer doesn't really feel that smoking damages your vocal chords!

My Papa was friends with Pavarotti who used to smoke cigars, which you don't inhale! So, that would make a bit of difference! I do not think that it is a wise decision on their part! I think that some people have their vices and it doesn't seem to interfere with their craft. Luckily so!

Looking at Robert Plant, and others that partied hard .. the damage to their voice, let alone their appearance, and physical well being is phenomenal!

Smoke has always been contributed to premature aging! "No Thank You!"
 

Rocker Girl

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That's way off in my opinion. The only band I rank above them is the Beatles, with Pink Floyd just behind (though my 'best album' goes to Floyd).

Hi Craig234 ... Just an FYI .. the only band to ever outdo the Beatles (whom I love) was Led Zeppelin! This is not my opinion, it is fact! :eek:

Love Pink Floyd