Dateline NBC - scuba death

[DrPizza]

That's what I was wondering initially. So she sank like a rock. Big deal. If she didn't equalize all the way down, big ouch from the eardrums. However, once she hit bottom at 100 feet, she should have had more than enough time to cease panicking and think, "okay, wtf do I have to do to get back to the surface."

 

[wwswimming]

Originally posted by: Gravity
Much simpler than divorce. Boyancy changes substantially in the first 30 feet. She sank like a rock...ok.

it sounds like the woman sinking part occurred shortly after
the bear hug part.

it was smart surveilling the burial site. they'll have some interesting
questions to ask if this goes to trial.

"one more time, Mr. Grieving husband. why did you visit your dead
wife's grave site with a bolt cutter & remove flowers ?"

i wonder how he's doing, in terms of collecting on the life insurance
(or not). "i'm sorry, mr. Grieving husband. that claim is un-paid because
that file is in the Husband suspected of Murder box".

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: Gravity
Much simpler than divorce. Boyancy changes substantially in the first 30 feet. She sank like a rock...ok. Just because she went to 100 feet doesn't mean she stopped breathing. Assuming all else was fine, she would sit there for 15-25 minutes until her air ran out. Of course, a pinhole in the regulator diaphram would really mess up her day!

I was a SCUBA instructor and trained rescue divers. This is totally lame.

Gravity

You missed that they were already doing the dive, and then swam against the current trying to get back to the chain. First, you can only swim against the smallest of currents, and even then it tires you out a great deal. That means you will breath much faster and use up your air faster as well.

She probably was low on air at the point they separated because of (a) fear, and (b) working so hard to fight the negative buoyancy and swimming against the current. (As instructors we say "fear floats" because people take huge breaths, increasing their lung volume, which also means they use their air faster.) I imagine if another diver, on the same dive, saw her at the bottom not blowing bubbles, she ran out of air pretty fast.

Low fill? Bad reg? Used too much trying to inflate the BCD? Used it up trying to get back to the chain? Who knows. It's hard to tell because I don't know what depth they were when they were fighting the current.

Whatever happened he's a dumbass.

P.S. Life insurance usually doesn't pay for scuba related deaths, you need a special provision for that, or DAN insurance. (And DAN will really investigate this one before paying anything.)

 

[MaxDepth]

I was wondering when 911paramedic would write in.

Yeah, there are so many questions that were not covered in the dataeline show.

One thing to point out is that I know too many people who have a lot of dives, or say they have a lot of dives, and are still bad divers. Just because you attain a certasin rank means that you paid your money, did the paperwork, and passed the tests. And not all testing is the same. Many resorts offer classes as a way of making more money and will generally pass you so that you spend money on doing more dives.

So he could be technically a better, more experienced diver but in reality he could be a really crappy diver who let his buddy die.


For the record, I am a PADI dive master with 418 dives.

 

[911paramedic]

How did you like the equipment exchange while buddy breathing?

I agree with you, it's not the number of dives it's the frequency and where you dive. When I went through instructor school we had a day off so I thought I'd go on a boat dive. They said there were 8-10' swells and only 15-20' of vis, I said "sounds great". They asked where I was from and when I said Northern California, they said, "oh, you'll love it."

I got paired with another instructor candidate who was from FL (Oops, that's where I took the course) and she pretty much held my hand the entire time. I navigated around with my compass for about 30+ minutes (about 40' deep) and returned us right to the mooring line. When we got back up she asked how in the hell I did that. LOL. Well, in Northern California 10' of vis is normal, and navigating with a compass and knowing how to determine distances traveled is a must.

That's how I don't get this story at all, because we did a dive on a wreck for fun and although the bottom was about 140' (we swam along the side at ~100-110') I would still go down for somebody in distress. Even though that's too deep for "recreational" diving, it would be pretty easy to get an extra bottle brought down to you so you could decompress. That's why underwater writing tablets are so handy, just write something and show another diver, they can relay the message to the safety diver on the boat. (If they don't already have tanks tied off at 20')

 

[sohcrates]

did anyone see this guy got charged? australia just brought him up for murder, but he cant be located.

still not sure it will be easy to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt", but at least someone is finally getting blamed.

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: sohcrates
did anyone see this guy got charged? australia just brought him up for murder, but he cant be located.

still not sure it will be easy to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt", but at least someone is finally getting blamed.

Here is the story,
Big suprise the guy can't be found.... :|

 

[rh71]

Lying about actually increasing the life insurance and making him the beneficiary didn't help her here... she should've confronted him about how she felt. Hindsight though.

 

[buck]

I see what you did there OP.

 

[uberman]

I had an ex-wife that costs me a fortune in lawyers. This would have been considerably more inexpensive.

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: wwswimming
the widower-to-be asking his bride-to-be to max out her life insurance ?

the dive computer malfunction blamed on battery problems ?

the widower removing flowers from his wife's grave, using a bolt cutter ?

i don't know what the jurisdiction is, Aus. or Alabama. if i was the prosecutor
i'd want to get the guy behind bars before he flees or kills himself.

once they get him under oath and start asking him questions about the
multiple conflicting odd details, he'll need a Q9450 to keep his stories straight.

Sounds like they already have more on him than they did on Hans Reiser.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: wwswimming
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24713499/

doesn't sound like she was a strong swimmer.

read that, it really sounds like that dirtbag killed her... what a fucking piece of shit

 

[Praxis1452]

So he married her, then decided to kill her on their honeymoon? Does that just not make any sense? Like he needed a reason to take a vacation?

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: NFS4
Scuba... fishy... I LOL'd

I meant to watch this b/c they kept talking it up during the Today Show this morning. Maybe I'll catch the rerun.

LOLLED @ the pun also