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Data from Clinton's calandar seems to be missing...

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DrPizza said:
Just think, less than a handful of elections ago, the election was, in part, determined by a few dozen people deciding to vote Libertarian in Florida. How different would the world be today if they had decided the lesser of two evils was Gore?

Reality: our system of government pretty much means there are always going to be two major parties, not three. That's the way it works.
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There is no convincing the third party voters they are living a delusion. There are usually more than two parties on a ballot but there are only two parties that have any chance of being elected president.
 
Subyman said:
Oh I think its bad to not have 100% accountability on the docket. But when I'm looking at the choices I have in front of me, I have to prioritize my energy. Hillary is likely going to be the choice for me, which is sad. I'd not imagined that I'd vote for Hillary ever.

IMO we had our time with a decent president, Obama. I also truly think George W was a decent man at his heart, but wasn't a good leader. I think Hillary will do whatever it takes to get to office and then pad the pockets of her friends, but to me that is better than having Trump. Known bad is better than unknown bad IMO. Neither are ideal.
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I think that below some level one becomes complicit. I don't like being put in that position by indifferent people and ideologues.
 
it will be fun watching her age into a prune with lipstick. She's high mileage. She may not make it thru the first term.
 
ivwshane said:
Can you find similar scrutiny of other SoS? I doubt you'll find the same volume but did anyone even look into prior SoS's at all?
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I would say your question is designed to redirect your thinking from what I regard as the important issue, that the data missing relates to meetings she had with Wall Street people and the fact that many liberals, including myself, feel that the one and only overriding issue the country faces is electing somebody who will oppose them, She is not right for that task in my opinion and my experience with cunning people is that she would be aware of that and try to do what she can not to make her ties to Wall Street too evident. I believe that you are looking at this with partisan bias. Democrats picked the lesser of two candidates, in my opinion and it is these Wall Street links that tell you that. Hillary supporters closed their eyes to reality and want to keep them closed, in my opinion. Hillary Clinton represents business as usual and business as usual is the end of our democracy. Hillary will win, most likely it seems, and the country will go back to sleep, fucked as ever.
 
Moonbeam said:
I would say your question is designed to redirect your thinking from what I regard as the important issue, that the data missing relates to meetings she had with Wall Street people and the fact that many liberals, including myself, feel that the one and only overriding issue the country faces is electing somebody who will oppose them, She is not right for that task in my opinion and my experience with cunning people is that she would be aware of that and try to do what she can not to make her ties to Wall Street too evident. I believe that you are looking at this with partisan bias. Democrats picked the lesser of two candidates, in my opinion and it is these Wall Street links that tell you that. Hillary supporters closed their eyes to reality and want to keep them closed, in my opinion. Hillary Clinton represents business as usual and business as usual is the end of our democracy. Hillary will win, most likely it seems, and the country will go back to sleep, fucked as ever.
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Or she employs a higher level of thinking, like this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfHJDLoGInM
 
ivwshane said:
Can you find similar scrutiny of other SoS? I doubt you'll find the same volume but did anyone even look into prior SoS's at all?
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False equivalency. She is running for President. The other SoS I assume you are referring to are not. Had Rice or Powell ran for President, I would expect them to be held accountable under greater scrutiny for their actions during the Bush administration.
 
Moonbeam said:
I doubt you seriously believe that which makes me wonder why you would post it. The loss of democracy, the power of the wealthy over our system seems so dangerous to me that I just don't get this need to joke deflect the issue, or rather I do get it, I see it as nothing more than guilt that is not being faced.
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It wasn't a joke. We never have been and never will be a truly egalitarian society. OTOH, I'll agree that concentration of wealth & power is excessive after 35 years of Reaganomics. We need to turn that around, restore economic power to the people. The only way we can accomplish that is through the agency of democratic government. Tearing down the govt merely creates a power vacuum that wealth is eager to fill, certainly not to the advantage of ordinary Americans.
 
Starbuck1975 said:
False equivalency. She is running for President. The other SoS I assume you are referring to are not. Had Rice or Powell ran for President, I would expect them to be held accountable under greater scrutiny for their actions during the Bush administration.
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Are there no limits to such scrutiny? Do common sense & decency have no bearing as I offered in post #24? Or is a witch hunt what we want?
 
Artdeco said:
This kind of stuff happened in Arkansas, over and over...

http://abc7ny.com/news/coroner-ex-un-official-died-when-barbell-fell-on-his-neck/1399029/

http://abcnews.go.com/International...onaire-tied-clinton-scandal/story?id=33990683
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That's just wonderful. Mention that information about Clinton meeting with Wall Street folk missing on some of her records, and we have the Liberals laughing it off and the conservatives accusing her of becoming a prune or a murderer.
 
Moonbeam said:
Just because nobody believes your conspiracy bullshit doesn't mean you're right. There's a difference between smoke and vapors.
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You know, I kind of liked Bill, he just had that charisma, and for all his faults, I felt he was a relatively principled person, I don't get that vibe from Hillary.
 
Jhhnn said:
Are there no limits to such scrutiny? Do common sense & decency have no bearing as I offered in post #24? Or is a witch hunt what we want?
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Maybe we should just build a bridge out of her and be done with it.

There are limits to scrutiny, but difficult to impose those limits when the continuous trickle of questionable actions suggests hints of corruption. Yes she has been under a microscope since her husband ran for President, but there is reason for it. You don't see any witch hunts chasing Michelle Obama.
 
Starbuck1975 said:
Maybe we should just build a bridge out of her and be done with it.

There are limits to scrutiny, but difficult to impose those limits when the continuous trickle of questionable actions suggests hints of corruption. Yes she has been under a microscope since her husband ran for President, but there is reason for it. You don't see any witch hunts chasing Michelle Obama.
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How many times can her detractors cry wolf before the rubes realize that there is no wolf?
 
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