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Darwin Believed in God

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Look being christian & beleiving in evolution are only mutually exclusive in the US

I've yet to meet a European or Australian christian who didn't beleive in evolution. I would say that 99.9% (or something like that) of self aknowledged christians outside of the US believe that creationism is nonsense.

Actually the Anglican Archbishop of Melbourne wouldnt let an American priest that moved to Australia get a job because he believe in that "creationism nonsense"

To be honest with you I think the majority of American christians think creationism is nonsense too. Its just that a very high percentage of Americans believe in creationism (relative to other countries). Whereas everwhere else its just that loony 1%.
 
Evolution (Darwin's Theory) is a fact, but it doesn't prove that there is no god. Natural selection (Darwin's Theory) actually makes a lot of sense; offspring (human or anything else) assume different physical and intellectual traits than their parents and these traits can be benefical in the natural environment leading to longer life and more reproduction. These traits are passed down from generation to generation, and as more and more of a certain "evolution" of a species reproduces with others, the new trait is blended into the species so completely that it is impossible to tell the other variation existed without fossil records. This process takes a long time, but it does happen, as can be seen in many animals in the Galapagos Islands.


Because this happens, does not disprove the God. God could very well have made this a part of every living thing's nature. It is a very logical trait for a species to have, the natural ability to adapt over generations through genetic variation.
 
why do you pretend that the Bible was written by God?!? thats ludicrous! the Old Testament was written down by some Jews who figured that was how it went. not by God.

also, time is actually referenced by how long it takes light to travel a set distance in a vacuum. distance is set by how long a cycle of the light that is produced by a certain type of cesium is.
 


<< Evolution (Darwin's Theory) is a fact >>



A theory is not a fact! Other than that, the rest of your post made sense.
 
The post that struck me funny in this threadd was:

yakko posts: &quot;I believe in evolution and God.&quot;

Beast1284 responds: &quot;How can you believe in evolution and creationism?&quot;

Umm... (timidly raises hand) When did believing in God mean that you also believe in creationism. Stating you believe in &quot;a&quot; God means that you believe in a supreme being and nothing more unless you elaborate on that position, which yakko never really did (much to my surprise since he's usually quite talkative and confrontational).

 
Darwin's Theory is natural selection. Natural selection happens in pretty much every living thing (can be easily seen in virii because of short life cycle) except humans. We've beaten survival of the fittest.
 
<<Darwin's Theory is natural selection. Natural selection happens in pretty much every living thing (can be easily seen in virii because of short life cycle) except humans. We've beaten survival of the fittest.>>

Not so much that we beat it, we evoloved the ability to alter our environment, thus making environmental pressures negligent (because we alter our environment to fit previous adaptions). Doesn't change the fact that humans continue to change. Our teeth and jaws are continueing to shrink in size and we are still gaining in height.
 
[/b]&quot;The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. The religion which based on experience, which refuses dogmatic. If there's any religion that would cope the scientific needs it will be Buddhism....&quot; Albert Einstien

And your point was?

The christians will twist and contort the Bible to say whatever the heck they want, if you look at Genisis and the story of Adam and Eve, it was/is a common story amoungst all the regional mythologies of the time. The basic premis is that we were animals who didnt need anything because we were one with God, then when we ate from the tree of knowledge we were cast out, well if the original sin was becoming a thinking animal, if thats the way it indeed went, then shouldnt we be striving to be one with god and honor our animalistic senses and not this made up and concocted Mono-theistic garbage?




SHUX
 
How are we different from any other animal on earth? We're here to procreate and survive, I don't see any reason to think otherwise.
 
what i am saying is that if one believes the God described by the Bible, then it is inherent that they must believe in creation, if they have their own relativistic view of God, then that is not the God of the Bible, and so you are imposing relativism, which eliminates truth, which by default eliminates God, and you have secular humanism, it is just a circle of claims that are entirely foolish
 
&quot;The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. The religion which based on experience, which refuses dogmatic. If there's any religion that would cope the scientific needs it will be Buddhism....&quot; Albert Einstien

I find it very interesting how there is a renewed interest in Buddhism and its connection to scientific thought. It's also quite interesting to see how so many people in the highly educated classes are turning towards Buddhism.

Zenmervolt
 


<< And your point was? Einstein believed in God. Your point? >>


John, it is obvious what my point was, you posted that hoping to show this great connection between your belief in &quot;creationism&quot; as science and Albert Einstien, who aparrently didn't believe in &quot;your God&quot;, but yes he believed in a God, just as most people do, it is the choice of God, or the perception of, is what bothers me.





SHUX
 
Uh, I'm not a Creationist and don't even believe in the Trinity. I do believe in Christ's general message that there is One God And Father Of All and that There Is Life After Death. But even the Muslims and Jews believe that among others...

But Einstein did believe in God, which I'm sure ruffles the feathers of atheists 😛
 
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