Dark Tower (Gunslinger) Movie Trilogy

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zebano

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"The man in black fled across the dessert, and the gunslinger followed"

Quite the epic series, but color me worried that this will be a total flop. I must admit to having more hope for aSoIaF.
 

thraashman

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Christian Bale would be better IMO.

After mentioning Javier Bardem and Christian Bale, I actually am thinking Josh Brolin might not be a bad choice. And in truth I kinda want someone whose original accent is American even though both of them do pretty good American accents.

But in the end I don't think I like this. First, the press release kinda pisses me off because the I'm fairly sure you never learn the Gunslinger's name in the first book and the press release refers to him by name. Yeah, it's nitpicky but I loved these books. Second, I worry that there's no way these could be done well as it's an epic 7 book series that heavily connects many of Stephen King's worlds. Hell I read Salem's Lot explicitly because of the character in Wolves of the Calla. Third, after book 4 the series dropped off, though unlike others I actually grew to love the ending and realized it was the perfect way to end it. I worry that I will be heavily disappointed in whatever they come up with. And as you can see, my fandom of this series is pretty major.

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jonks

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I could see Clint Eastwood in the role. Roland is supposed to be an older grizzled gunslinger by now

He's 80. Roland is grizzled, not infirm.

thraashman said:
First, the press release kinda pisses me off because the I'm fairly sure you never learn the Gunslinger's name in the first book and the press release refers to him by name.

Not sure about his full name but Roland, definitely.

My choice, I think Guy Pierce would knock the hell out of the role. Not sure he's tall enough but movie magic should fix that, I mean Tom Cruise looks normal to tall in his flicks.
 
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thraashman

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He's 80. Roland is grizzled, not infirm.



Not sure about his full name but Roland, definitely.

My choice, I think Guy Pierce would knock the hell out of the role. Not sure he's tall enough but movie magic should fix that, I mean Tom Cruise looks normal to tall in his flicks.

I thought they never even said his first name in the book. But I'm positive his last name isn't said. It's been over a decade since I read the first one so I can't really remember perfectly.

As far as age for Rolan, in the first book he's 40ish and is aged 10 years at the end of the book. So he should be played by an actor in his mid-late 40's.
 

destrekor

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Confirmed: Javier Bardem is Roland Deschain.

I have confidence Bardem will portray a respectable Roland, the last living Gunslinger.

Now, here's the biggest question.
Who will play Jake - he's the next most important character imho. I don't think it will be challenging to pull off a good Walter (Man in Black), and I hope there is a good Eddie and Susannah (most importantly need a good Detta in that head :D).

Later in the series, I fear how Mordred will be played/portrayed. Could be weird to see in action.

But dammit, Oy needs be be awesome! The world needs to be believably imagined too, and needs to have that "epic journey across the country" feeling. I just hope it doesn't feel cheap, because if they keep it cheap feeling throughout the entire project, it'll be a great disservice, and the third film would likely be a nasty mess considering how much in the way of effects are going to be needed as the series progresses forward.
Actually, when they get to the Wolves of the Calla events, that will be the make or break point in the acting and effects world. Here's to hoping they don't just hop over those events like it's a less-important part in the overall journey, because if done well, it could make for a really good portion of whichever film it gets included in.

That is, of course, assuming they are treating all 7 books into the three films. I'm assuming the tv seasons (which are prequels) will be dealing more with the earlier events in Roland's life.
Actually now I'm just extremely confused. Are the prequels going to be adapted from the graphic novel prequels? If so, hmm.

Wonder how they are going to go about the film. Flashbacks for the earlier stories? Some "flashbacks" taking up maybe even half the total movie length? Trying to think of how they'll do Roland's younger days, which is the same time the Wizard's Rainbow gets introduced to us... we're going to need awesome teenage actors and actresses. Hopefully they pick good ones.

I'm interested just to see how they actually go about this project - how they handle the material and pacing and overall flow of the different stories scattered across timelines.

That, and the movie-magic version of Oy better be awesome.
 

bobdole369

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This thread makes me want to read teh series for a fourth time. I might skip 5,6 and go right to the last third of 7 though.
 

Redfraggle

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Um...yeah...not sure where I stand on this. I mentioned in another thread it would be cool to see this made into a movie, but it's one of those things that just has so damn much going on that I think it will be hard to translate to a movie, even with the TV series.

And the ending just pissed me off too.

This. And his letter to his "constant readers" afterward was a cop out. King can go fuck himself. I got rid of everything of his I had, except Bag of Bones, and have never read nor watched anything of his again. That was the worst ending in the history of literature and he should be ashamed of himself.
The hero is a goddamned GUNSLINGER where was the slinging of the guns? An ERASER FFS?? Really??
Confirmed: Javier Bardem is Roland Deschain.

I have confidence Bardem will portray a respectable Roland, the last living Gunslinger.

Now, here's the biggest question.
Who will play Jake - he's the next most important character imho. I don't think it will be challenging to pull off a good Walter (Man in Black), and I hope there is a good Eddie and Susannah (most importantly need a good Detta in that head :D).

Later in the series, I fear how Mordred will be played/portrayed. Could be weird to see in action.

But dammit, Oy needs be be awesome! The world needs to be believably imagined too, and needs to have that "epic journey across the country" feeling. I just hope it doesn't feel cheap, because if they keep it cheap feeling throughout the entire project, it'll be a great disservice, and the third film would likely be a nasty mess considering how much in the way of effects are going to be needed as the series progresses forward.
Actually, when they get to the Wolves of the Calla events, that will be the make or break point in the acting and effects world. Here's to hoping they don't just hop over those events like it's a less-important part in the overall journey, because if done well, it could make for a really good portion of whichever film it gets included in.

That is, of course, assuming they are treating all 7 books into the three films. I'm assuming the tv seasons (which are prequels) will be dealing more with the earlier events in Roland's life.
Actually now I'm just extremely confused. Are the prequels going to be adapted from the graphic novel prequels? If so, hmm.

Wonder how they are going to go about the film. Flashbacks for the earlier stories? Some "flashbacks" taking up maybe even half the total movie length? Trying to think of how they'll do Roland's younger days, which is the same time the Wizard's Rainbow gets introduced to us... we're going to need awesome teenage actors and actresses. Hopefully they pick good ones.

I'm interested just to see how they actually go about this project - how they handle the material and pacing and overall flow of the different stories scattered across timelines.

That, and the movie-magic version of Oy better be awesome.

Also this, and especially the underlined. I loved Oy and was very attached to him.

I just don't have the overall faith that they can pull this off properly. It seems like another way to shit on what was an amazing series that would have been better off unfinished than with that shit ending.
 

nageov3t

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my expectations are pretty low, considering the shit ending of the books (and not just the ending, really the entire last few books were disappointing) and how bad Stephen King movies typically are.
 

Andy22

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I am convinced King had no idea how to finish the series after the long layoff after Wizard and the Glass, which was my favorite. The first 4 books were incredible and felt like the flowed right out of him but the last 3 seemed forced and were no where near the quality.
 

Minjin

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Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with the series? Granted, I only read the first two (IIRC).
 

Redfraggle

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I am convinced King had no idea how to finish the series after the long layoff after Wizard and the Glass, which was my favorite. The first 4 books were incredible and felt like the flowed right out of him but the last 3 seemed forced and were no where near the quality.

This exactly.


Honestly, he had said over and over how this series wrote itself and he never knew when the next part of the story would surface in his imagination. I was fully prepared for it never to finish. Which, in a way, it didn't. (although that part is not what bothers me...it's the lameness of the dethroning of the Crimson King)
 

jonks

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Wonder how they are going to go about the film. Flashbacks for the earlier stories? Some "flashbacks" taking up maybe even half the total movie length? Trying to think of how they'll do Roland's younger days, which is the same time the Wizard's Rainbow gets introduced to us... we're going to need awesome teenage actors and actresses. Hopefully they pick good ones.

Yeah, Wizard and Glass will probably cause those unfamiliar with the series to go wft. Maybe they'll make that a movie so people don't have to get so removed from the current storyline for an entire season-long flashback.
 

Andy22

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Am I the only one who wasn't that impressed with the series? Granted, I only read the first two (IIRC).

I get that some may not like the Gunslinger but if you're not hooked after the The Drawing of the Three" then you definitely won't like the rest.
 

Poulsonator

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Javier Bardem is an increcible actor, but I would have preferred Viggo Mortensen as Roland. Either way it's gonna suck since Ron Howard and Akiva Goldsman are making this.

Oh, and this is who is playing Susannah: Noomi Rapace
 

dabuddha

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Javier Bardem is an increcible actor, but I would have preferred Viggo Mortensen as Roland. Either way it's gonna suck since Ron Howard and Akiva Goldsman are making this.

Oh, and this is who is playing Susannah: Noomi Rapace

I think they read the wrong series, that lady is white!
 

nageov3t

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Yeah, Wizard and Glass will probably cause those unfamiliar with the series to go wft. Maybe they'll make that a movie so people don't have to get so removed from the current storyline for an entire season-long flashback.
I was familiar with the story and it still made me go wtf ;)

I know I'm in the minority here, because it seems like most DT lovers cream themselves over Wizard and Glass, but I don't understand how a reader can be expected to get emotionally involved in a 600-page flashback when they already know the ending.
 

Andy22

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I was familiar with the story and it still made me go wtf ;)

I know I'm in the minority here, because it seems like most DT lovers cream themselves over Wizard and Glass, but I don't understand how a reader can be expected to get emotionally involved in a 600-page flashback when they already know the ending.

Because it sheds so much light on Roland's beginning! It's such a well told story of revenge, deceit, murder and not least of all love in a quasi-western setting. It's just brilliant.
 

nageov3t

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Because it sheds so much light on Roland's beginning! It's such a well told story of revenge, deceit, murder and not least of all love in a quasi-western setting. It's just brilliant.
I'd probably have to read it as a stand-alone book to appreciate it... as it was, I spend the entire book thinking "when the fuck are we going to get back to the train?"