Danny Glover fired by MCI because of his political stance.

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Amused

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Originally posted by: classy
Opps, I forgot, you only address the issues you THINK give you the upper hand. Why didn't you address the outrageous support of Castro, Classy?

Amused, sigh, poor Amused. This what I said in my very first post

This is a tough one. While Glover sounded like a complete fool, I don't think you can go around and fire people for their personal beliefs, unless those beliefs could lead to physical harm or something. A lot of people disagreed with what we did. Hell we're still trying to find evidence to support what we did. This is also tough because despite our religous, racial, and cultural differences we are all first and foremost AMERICANS. I think the the proper thing that should have been done was not to renew his contract or buy it out and part ways, but firing him was wrong and he'll probably win a court case. While he was again I believe wrong in what he said you can't fire him because of it.

I said he was wrong and I addressed other things as well in my other posts. Trying reading all I posted.
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Classy, you didn't address that when you made the stupid post my quote refers to. Nice backpeddle, but no one's buying it.
 

drewshin

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OH BS. This is not government sponsered in any way. In this country there is the freedom of association. You do not have to associate with, like, buy the product of, or support the careers of those you do not agree with.

Tell me, if you found out your local gas station was a front for the KKK, would you continue doing business there? No? FASCIST! McCARTHYITE!

See how that works?[/quote]

you're obviously VERY confused, too much limbaugh for you. if i knew that a gas station was run by the KKK, i would not buy gas there, but i wouldn't interfere with their right to own a business. comparably, i would say 99.999% of the citizens in the u.s. did not know about danny glover's political stances until they were brought out into the public by this "mccarthyite" <--a real mccarthyite.

now, if he a wore some t-shirt during an mci event that explained his views, then i'd say he has a reason to be fired, but as long as he keeps them separate. i agree, if he had a "at will" type of clause in his contract, than mci has a right to fire him, but what bothers me more are these un-American conservative a$$es that try to dig up every little piece of dirt and fling it in all directions for publicity, trying to make people seem like they are doing their "patriotic" duty. they are truly the $hitbags of america, and what a previous poster should be referred to as the new "mccarthyites".

are you sure you know what the word fascist means?

 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: classy
Opps, I forgot, you only address the issues you THINK give you the upper hand. Why didn't you address the outrageous support of Castro, Classy?

Amused, sigh, poor Amused. This what I said in my very first post

This is a tough one. While Glover sounded like a complete fool, I don't think you can go around and fire people for their personal beliefs, unless those beliefs could lead to physical harm or something. A lot of people disagreed with what we did. Hell we're still trying to find evidence to support what we did. This is also tough because despite our religous, racial, and cultural differences we are all first and foremost AMERICANS. I think the the proper thing that should have been done was not to renew his contract or buy it out and part ways, but firing him was wrong and he'll probably win a court case. While he was again I believe wrong in what he said you can't fire him because of it.

I said he was wrong and I addressed other things as well in my other posts. Trying reading all I posted.
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So do you also support Strom Thurmond's right to be a racist?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: drewshin

you're obviously VERY confused, too much limbaugh for you. if i knew that a gas station was run by the KKK, i would not buy gas there, but i wouldn't interfere with their right to own a business. comparably, i would say 99.999% of the citizens in the u.s. did not know about danny glover's political stances until they were brought out into the public by this "mccarthyite" <--a real mccarthyite.

I call Bullshit - you or someone else would be posting this on here and ranting and raving to everyone that'd take time to listen. Then you'd get Jessie Jackass and/or Rev. Sharptongue to start hollaring and guess what would happen? My guess is that people wouldn't buy gas there anymore;)

You see drewshin - it works both ways;) Do I like the fact that J.Jackass gets more than his fair share of the press? Sure, but he has the right to say whatever he wants (within the law ;) ) Just as this guy who HAS A SHOW ON MSNBC has every right to spout his beliefs BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE GETS PAID TO DO!!!

CkG
 

classy

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Amused

Just what did you want me to say? Call the guy racist or whatever? Obviously Glover has went off the deep end. Who cares. He's entitled to his opinion no matter how much I disagree with it. My problem with you is you tried to paint a picture like his comments just so polarized the public when the public was polarized anyway. I don't agree with firing someone who shares a personal opinion different from mine. Obviously they didn't ask him about his personal beliefs so shame on them. All they thought about was the almighty dollar and it backfired so shame on them. As for you, you pigeon hole anyone who thinks for himself. Your quick to take one side and run with it. And anyone who shares an unpopular opinion you deem as untolerable. You need to grow the hell up. You and a few others. The damn world doesn't revovle around you self center, ego maniac, arrogant clowns. Thats all I have to say. And ps Glover sounds just like you and a few others, except he is on the other side of ridiculous. Cheers :beer:
 

classy

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: classy
Opps, I forgot, you only address the issues you THINK give you the upper hand. Why didn't you address the outrageous support of Castro, Classy?

Amused, sigh, poor Amused. This what I said in my very first post

This is a tough one. While Glover sounded like a complete fool, I don't think you can go around and fire people for their personal beliefs, unless those beliefs could lead to physical harm or something. A lot of people disagreed with what we did. Hell we're still trying to find evidence to support what we did. This is also tough because despite our religous, racial, and cultural differences we are all first and foremost AMERICANS. I think the the proper thing that should have been done was not to renew his contract or buy it out and part ways, but firing him was wrong and he'll probably win a court case. While he was again I believe wrong in what he said you can't fire him because of it.

I said he was wrong and I addressed other things as well in my other posts. Trying reading all I posted.
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So do you also support Strom Thurmond's right to be a racist?

Oh boy, now here you come "Just leave it to Beaver". I don't like racists no matter what color they are. Unlike you genius, I have strong ties with people of different races in life. I love all regardless of their color. I will always be more quick to down guys who's views directly affect my life. Glover? I could care less what he does. All he's ever going to do for me is make a movie I might like. Peace.

 

drewshin

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: drewshin

you're obviously VERY confused, too much limbaugh for you. if i knew that a gas station was run by the KKK, i would not buy gas there, but i wouldn't interfere with their right to own a business. comparably, i would say 99.999% of the citizens in the u.s. did not know about danny glover's political stances until they were brought out into the public by this "mccarthyite" <--a real mccarthyite.

I call Bullshit - you or someone else would be posting this on here and ranting and raving to everyone that'd take time to listen. Then you'd get Jessie Jackass and/or Rev. Sharptongue to start hollaring and guess what would happen? My guess is that people wouldn't buy gas there anymore;)

You see drewshin - it works both ways;) Do I like the fact that J.Jackass gets more than his fair share of the press? Sure, but he has the right to say whatever he wants (within the law ;) ) Just as this guy who HAS A SHOW ON MSNBC has every right to spout his beliefs BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE GETS PAID TO DO!!!

CkG

heh heh, well you obviously dont know me. first of all, if they had no indications at their gas station that they were KKK members, then what reason would I have for not going their for gas? maybe they'd look at me weird and I'd never go there again. and if jesse jackass or sharptongue were to get involved, it would most likely not be just because they were KKK members, that wouldnt be enough for them to get involved, it would probably be because they refused service to black people or something like that....that's where they would draw the line. typical republican b.s. this guy's show is just as bad as jerry springer just wihtout the she-men and senior citizen strippers. :)
 

BoberFett

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That's right classy, just avoid the issue and make pathetic attempts to insult me. Anybody reading this thread can see you're a tool with no grasp on reality. Except for maybe sandorski, but that's because he's on the same level as you.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: drewshin
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: drewshin

you're obviously VERY confused, too much limbaugh for you. if i knew that a gas station was run by the KKK, i would not buy gas there, but i wouldn't interfere with their right to own a business. comparably, i would say 99.999% of the citizens in the u.s. did not know about danny glover's political stances until they were brought out into the public by this "mccarthyite" <--a real mccarthyite.

I call Bullshit - you or someone else would be posting this on here and ranting and raving to everyone that'd take time to listen. Then you'd get Jessie Jackass and/or Rev. Sharptongue to start hollaring and guess what would happen? My guess is that people wouldn't buy gas there anymore;)

You see drewshin - it works both ways;) Do I like the fact that J.Jackass gets more than his fair share of the press? Sure, but he has the right to say whatever he wants (within the law ;) ) Just as this guy who HAS A SHOW ON MSNBC has every right to spout his beliefs BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE GETS PAID TO DO!!!

CkG

heh heh, well you obviously dont know me. first of all, if they had no indications at their gas station that they were KKK members, then what reason would I have for not going their for gas? maybe they'd look at me weird and I'd never go there again. and if jesse jackass or sharptongue were to get involved, it would most likely not be just because they were KKK members, that wouldnt be enough for them to get involved, it would probably be because they refused service to black people or something like that....that's where they would draw the line. typical republican b.s. this guy's show is just as bad as jerry springer just wihtout the she-men and senior citizen strippers. :)

The question isn't about if they gave indications at their station. It is IF YOU KNEW they were KKK members...;) Backpedal all you want.

Maybe this guy's show is over the top - THEN DON'T FRIGGIN WATCH IT(which I'm sure you don't anyway) You have the right to not watch it and I have the right to not want to see some jackass on a TV commercial - we just take different paths to an end. I'd rather nip a problem in the proverbial butt than just ignore it;)

I also find it funny that you blast this guy for blasting D.G. - do you want this guy to lose his job just because you don't agree with his remarks? Go ahead - email,call, write to MSNBC and get his show cancelled - it is your right as a consumer;)

CkG
 

drewshin

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looks like all these shows have nothing better to do, than to find the latest celebrity they kind dig some dirt on, obviously they can't talk about the crappy foreign relations that this bush administration has created, the crappy economic policy (no, i dont blame them so much for the bad economy, but their economic policy from the beginning has been horrific, did you see snow's statements about the dollar? idiot). they can't talk about democratic politicians, not so much dirt there, so they just concentrate on celebrities, that's what everyone wants to hear about, right? who's the latest one we can lynch? oops, lynching is illegal now, what's the next best thing we can do? destroy them, make them miserable!
 

classy

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
That's right classy, just avoid the issue and make pathetic attempts to insult me. Anybody reading this thread can see you're a tool with no grasp on reality. Except for maybe sandorski, but that's because he's on the same level as you.

OK what is the issue? You name it, I'll address it. I thought the issue was whether or not it was right for MCI to fire Glover. Clearly in some of yall's minds that is not the issue. So Wally, what is the issue? :D
 

drewshin

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heh heh, well you obviously dont know me. first of all, if they had no indications at their gas station that they were KKK members, then what reason would I have for not going their for gas? maybe they'd look at me weird and I'd never go there again. and if jesse jackass or sharptongue were to get involved, it would most likely not be just because they were KKK members, that wouldnt be enough for them to get involved, it would probably be because they refused service to black people or something like that....that's where they would draw the line. typical republican b.s. this guy's show is just as bad as jerry springer just wihtout the she-men and senior citizen strippers. :)

The question isn't about if they gave indications at their station. It is IF YOU KNEW they were KKK members...;) Backpedal all you want.

Maybe this guy's show is over the top - THEN DON'T FRIGGIN WATCH IT(which I'm sure you don't anyway) You have the right to not watch it and I have the right to not want to see some jackass on a TV commercial - we just take different paths to an end. I'd rather nip a problem in the proverbial butt than just ignore it;)

I also find it funny that you blast this guy for blasting D.G. - do you want this guy to lose his job just because you don't agree with his remarks? Go ahead - email,call, write to MSNBC and get his show cancelled - it is your right as a consumer;)

CkG[/quote]

i dont see any backpedaling there. you're obviously exaggerating and misconstruing every point i made in there.
as i said before, if i knew they were KKK members, i wouldnt patronize their store, but i wouldn't be protesting and trying to have their business license revoked ( have i said that three times already?) if you dont like danny glover as mci spokesperson, then ignore the commericals, it's that simple.

yes, im blasting this guy, but i never asked for this guy's show to be cancelled??? i dont give a rat's a$$ about his show, in fact never heard of him before of this, maybe because i dont watch msnbc.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: drewshin
OH BS. This is not government sponsered in any way. In this country there is the freedom of association. You do not have to associate with, like, buy the product of, or support the careers of those you do not agree with.

Tell me, if you found out your local gas station was a front for the KKK, would you continue doing business there? No? FASCIST! McCARTHYITE!

See how that works?

you're obviously VERY confused, too much limbaugh for you. if i knew that a gas station was run by the KKK, i would not buy gas there, but i wouldn't interfere with their right to own a business. comparably, i would say 99.999% of the citizens in the u.s. did not know about danny glover's political stances until they were brought out into the public by this "mccarthyite" <--a real mccarthyite.

now, if he a wore some t-shirt during an mci event that explained his views, then i'd say he has a reason to be fired, but as long as he keeps them separate. i agree, if he had a "at will" type of clause in his contract, than mci has a right to fire him, but what bothers me more are these un-American conservative a$$es that try to dig up every little piece of dirt and fling it in all directions for publicity, trying to make people seem like they are doing their "patriotic" duty. they are truly the $hitbags of america, and what a previous poster should be referred to as the new "mccarthyites".

are you sure you know what the word fascist means?[/quote]

No confusion here. YOU would choose not to go to the gas station, and so would everyone else with your views. And I would bet money you'd tell all your friends who owns the gas station. Guess what? That's the same thing that happened here. People choose not to do business with MCI because of the views of their most public spokesperson.

Glover's views hit the news when he, Belafonte and 160 other entertainers signed that BS praising Castro. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. After that, ALL of his views became news.

McCarthyism requires government backing. Anything else is PRIVATE boycotting which is as an american a right as freedom of speech. Liberal causes boycott companies and people ALL THE TIME. When the tables are turned, it seems the liberals scream about McCarthyism. Why is that?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: classy
Amused

Just what did you want me to say? Call the guy racist or whatever? Obviously Glover has went off the deep end. Who cares. He's entitled to his opinion no matter how much I disagree with it. My problem with you is you tried to paint a picture like his comments just so polarized the public when the public was polarized anyway. I don't agree with firing someone who shares a personal opinion different from mine. Obviously they didn't ask him about his personal beliefs so shame on them. All they thought about was the almighty dollar and it backfired so shame on them. As for you, you pigeon hole anyone who thinks for himself. Your quick to take one side and run with it. And anyone who shares an unpopular opinion you deem as untolerable. You need to grow the hell up. You and a few others. The damn world doesn't revovle around you self center, ego maniac, arrogant clowns. Thats all I have to say. And ps Glover sounds just like you and a few others, except he is on the other side of ridiculous. Cheers :beer:

Classy. The point is, would you want someone who has "gone off the deep end" representing your company and being it's most public image?

Not if you want to make money.

MCI had every right to fire Glover, and doing so made good business sense. End of story.
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: drewshin
heh heh, well you obviously dont know me. first of all, if they had no indications at their gas station that they were KKK members, then what reason would I have for not going their for gas? maybe they'd look at me weird and I'd never go there again. and if jesse jackass or sharptongue were to get involved, it would most likely not be just because they were KKK members, that wouldnt be enough for them to get involved, it would probably be because they refused service to black people or something like that....that's where they would draw the line. typical republican b.s. this guy's show is just as bad as jerry springer just wihtout the she-men and senior citizen strippers. :)

The question isn't about if they gave indications at their station. It is IF YOU KNEW they were KKK members...;) Backpedal all you want.

Maybe this guy's show is over the top - THEN DON'T FRIGGIN WATCH IT(which I'm sure you don't anyway) You have the right to not watch it and I have the right to not want to see some jackass on a TV commercial - we just take different paths to an end. I'd rather nip a problem in the proverbial butt than just ignore it;)

I also find it funny that you blast this guy for blasting D.G. - do you want this guy to lose his job just because you don't agree with his remarks? Go ahead - email,call, write to MSNBC and get his show cancelled - it is your right as a consumer;)

CkG

i dont see any backpedaling there. you're obviously exaggerating and misconstruing every point i made in there.
as i said before, if i knew they were KKK members, i wouldnt patronize their store, but i wouldn't be protesting and trying to have their business license revoked ( have i said that three times already?) if you dont like danny glover as mci spokesperson, then ignore the commericals, it's that simple.

yes, im blasting this guy, but i never asked for this guy's show to be cancelled??? i dont give a rat's a$$ about his show, in fact never heard of him before of this, maybe because i dont watch msnbc.[/quote]

I think that was the reason for their removing him exaclty, fear people would not watch their commericals. They were paying him to get people to buy their stuff, not boycott them for his personal views...


Different scenario with a TV show, you are looking for ratings. Allowing some ignorant jackass that is controversial to sound off will get you ratings, look at Rush.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: drewshin
heh heh, well you obviously dont know me. first of all, if they had no indications at their gas station that they were KKK members, then what reason would I have for not going their for gas? maybe they'd look at me weird and I'd never go there again. and if jesse jackass or sharptongue were to get involved, it would most likely not be just because they were KKK members, that wouldnt be enough for them to get involved, it would probably be because they refused service to black people or something like that....that's where they would draw the line. typical republican b.s. this guy's show is just as bad as jerry springer just wihtout the she-men and senior citizen strippers. :)

The question isn't about if they gave indications at their station. It is IF YOU KNEW they were KKK members...;) Backpedal all you want.

Maybe this guy's show is over the top - THEN DON'T FRIGGIN WATCH IT(which I'm sure you don't anyway) You have the right to not watch it and I have the right to not want to see some jackass on a TV commercial - we just take different paths to an end. I'd rather nip a problem in the proverbial butt than just ignore it;)

I also find it funny that you blast this guy for blasting D.G. - do you want this guy to lose his job just because you don't agree with his remarks? Go ahead - email,call, write to MSNBC and get his show cancelled - it is your right as a consumer;)

CkG

i dont see any backpedaling there. you're obviously exaggerating and misconstruing every point i made in there.
as i said before, if i knew they were KKK members, i wouldnt patronize their store, but i wouldn't be protesting and trying to have their business license revoked ( have i said that three times already?) if you dont like danny glover as mci spokesperson, then ignore the commericals, it's that simple.

yes, im blasting this guy, but i never asked for this guy's show to be cancelled??? i dont give a rat's a$$ about his show, in fact never heard of him before of this, maybe because i dont watch msnbc.[/quote]

Or...It's as simple as writing a letter, making a phonecall, or informing others ;) Ignoring "problems" rarely truely solves it, it just delays confrontation.

We both agree that this could be ignored(both sides) but just because I choose to execercise my right to FoS in response to his instead of ignore it makes me a "mccarthyite" ? Nice
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CkG
 

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The left can boycott anything they disagree with and it's good healthy freedom of speech.

The right does it and they are a misguided, rabble-rousing, redneck reactionaries.





 

Amused

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Originally posted by: NightTrain
The left can boycott anything they disagree with and it's good healthy freedom of speech.

The right does it and they are a misguided, rabble-rousing, redneck reactionaries.

Bingo... although, in Red's defense, he's made fun of boycotters from ALL sides in many different issues.

But for the other's making claims of McCarthyism, well...
 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: Medellon
BS, if people want to shoot their mouth off then they should be prepared to suffer the consequences.

Yep,

He could at least support the troops, asshole.

"Compared them to the 9-11 terrorist"



 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: classy
This is a tough one. While Glover sounded like a complete fool, I don't think you can go around and fire people for their personal beliefs, unless those beliefs could lead to physical harm or something.

Wrong. Glover was acting as a spokesperson for a company. They relied on his popularity to advertise their product. By voicing an opinion that polarized the public, he put MCI's image at stake. His beliefs and the way he voiced them could have caused (and probably did cause) MCI very real financial harm. If you're making my company lose business, you better believe I can fire you.

I think the the proper thing that should have been done was not to renew his contract or buy it out and part ways, but firing him was wrong and he'll probably win a court case. While he was again I believe wrong in what he said you can't fire him because of it.

Unless he had a contract with them that had a severance clause in it, they can fire him at any time.


Nowhere was he a spoke person for them. WTF are you talking about. He made commercials for them thats it.

WTF do you think a spokesperson IS, Classy??? It's a person who in one capacity or another SPEAKS FOR, or represents a company. That's what an actor who advertises for a company IS, Classy.

And most actors sign contracts to be used in commercials for a company.

Yes, they do. And if you looked at most of the contracts, the company has a right to fire the actor if his actions in any way cause harm to the company's image and/or sales.

If thats the case you should never see anyone do commericals cause guranteed they have or will say something not everyone agrees with.

Not as outrageous as Glover, I promise you.

As far as polarizing the country is a bunch of bs. This country was 50/50 in favor or against this war.

Once the war started, it had a 75+% approval rating. Oh, and the issue of Cuba is NOT 50/50. Hell, I doubt you could find 5% of the people support Castro. I also doubt 50% of the people would agree that calling Bush "racist" is accurate or in good taste.

75% of the world was openly against it as well.

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So his comments were no more dumb or stupid than all the others. I do think he went to far with some things, but considering the circumstances I can understand it although I don't agree with it. You need to as always get your facts straight. Oops I forgot facts don't mean much to you.

Opps, I forgot, you only address the issues you THINK give you the upper hand. Why didn't you address the outrageous support of Castro, Classy?

I have my facts straight.

What farkin support "of Castro"? No one has shown any such support.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sandorski
Well, in isolation this wouldn't be such a huge issue, but if you add in the Dixie Chicks, the Boss, Michael Moore, Tim Robbins, and others into the mix you begin to see something different. That being a campaign to silence opposition. At the least this is McCarthyism 2, at the worst Krystal Nacht non-violent style. It is a systemic labeling then ruining of those who dare speak opposition, a dangerous precedent.

OH BS. This is not government sponsered in any way. In this country there is the freedom of association. You do not have to associate with, like, buy the product of, or support the careers of those you do not agree with.

Tell me, if you found out your local gas station was a front for the KKK, would you continue doing business there? No? FASCIST! McCARTHYITE!

See how that works?

Who sponsors it is immaterial, if the end result is the same. Danny Glover's personal statements/beliefs(still no confirmation on what those are) is not anywhere near similar to "a front" for some some quasi criminal organization.

So if the KKK never hurt anyone but still preached the same messages, you'd still think it would be wrong to distance yourself from them?

Come on, Sandorski. This is one sided and you know it.

How does Glover's statements in anyway equate with the thoughts/beliefs of the KKK? We all know what the KKK stands for/promotes, does anyone know what Glover stands for/promotes?
 

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All the frikkin red herrings are piling up so far it's hard to even see the argument.

All those who keep saying Danny Glover is a radical, that he supports Castro, just drop it. It's stupid, you can't provide evidence, and it's irrelevant anyhow.

Classy: while it is true that firing someone for their thoughts (ideas) is wrongful dismissal, that does not apply in this case. He is a public face of this company, and he therefore can be fired if his activities affect the company negatively. There is ample evidence of this happening. If this went to court, all MCI would need to do is trot out the thousands of emails and protest letters. Danny Glover is not suing, do you really think it's because he can't afford a lawyer?

The unfortunate thing is, the dangerous precedent is being set by the american public. You can lay some blame on the media and the administration, but the USA is still a democracy (of sorts), and depends on the complicity/acquiesence/support of at least a reasonable portion of the pubic. Dubya may have started the ball rolling with his "those who are not with us are against us" BS after 09/11, but he didn't have to push very hard.

Yes freedom of speech still technically exists in the USA, but that freedom is meaningless unless it includes views that you don't agree with. All the irate protesters whenever a public figure expresses dissent are also using of freedom of speech, but I can't help feeling that they do not really beleive it at heart. Calling for boycotts and burning albums just doesn't seem like a freedom of speech kind of action, but maybe that's just me.

If I dislike the publicly expressed views of some celebrity, I feel no need to form a protest group. Most of the time I just ignore it. If it particularly offensive to me, I may avoid supporting that person by seeing their movies or buying their music.