Danish cartoonist and g'daughter nearly killed by Islamic whacko.

[FaaR]

For the umpteenth time, if Christian or Buddhist or Jewish nutcases plotted to bring down planes with hundreds of people in them with bombs in their underwear or flew planes into buildings killing thousands of people, you can bet that those religions would also get the same scrutiny as Islam, so you have no analogy here and your conclusion is baseless.

When you look at the religion as the cause for terrorism you've already lost, by descending into bigotry. The bible for example is full of reasons of why you should be stoned or otherwise violently put to death, should you fail to perform whatever random and illogical commands inscribed within. Open up some old book of law, you'll find tons of (what we NOW consider) reprehensible punishments for really rather trivial offenses.

Point is, old crap is OLD CRAP. And this includes religion. It's not so much that one religion is worse than any other (because that's not actually really the case), it's that NEW stuff is better than OLD stuff, and if you're fundamental and worship old stuff, you're going to think doing all sorts of crazy evil things is good. And that's regardless of if you're muslim, or christian or whatever.

Not that any of this is likely to be able to penetrate your thick hide of bigotry, I suspect.

It's funny how so many here purports to be the guardians of freedom, yet still are the most eager to dismantle that freedom by advocating profiling and mass-persecution of particular groups of people and whatnot... Yeah, you're just going to LOVE living in the kind of society you're wishing for. Watch out for Mr. Gestapo man, he'll come get you should yo do ANYTHING suspicious!

 

[JSFLY]

And Obama still thinks Islam is a religion of peace.

That's because it is a religion of peace.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

That's because it is a religion of peace.

It's a religion. What it effectively is depends on what those who practice it do.

The same thing also holds true for political philosophies. The many Left and Right radical military factions in the world have killed their share of people. Does that mean being on the Left or Right makes you a torturer, rapist, or murderer? No. It all depends on what those who practice it do.

 

[RapidSnail]

That's because it is a religion of peace.

It's a religion of pieces. :awe:

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's a religion of pieces. :awe:

I have a rather dark sense of humor.

 

[tvarad]

Don't be embarrassed, not everyone knows how to use google.

Buddhist violence and terrorism
Sri Lanka is rife with Buddhist terrorism.

Christian terrorism
UK seems to have the biggest problem with Christian terrorist groups. Protestants vs Catholics in Ireland is big.

Hindu terrorism

Christian terrorism in the US

Those are the silliest examples given that equate the scourge of our times, viz. Islamic terrorism that's like a cancer affecting the whole world with what are at best localized happenings and others like bombing of abortion clinics which don't even equate. At least one of those examples, viz. Hindu terrorism has since been debunked as trumped up charges brought about in a political fight between the ruling leftist Congress party and the opposition right-wing BJP. Read up the Christian terrorism wiki discussion to see how it is politically motivated to "balance" out Islamic terrorism with little factual basis.

I'll sit up and take notice when a Sri-Lankan Buddhist bombs a Canadian building because Canada is a stronghold of the the erstwhile LTTE.

 

[SandEagle]

And Obama still thinks Islam is a religion of peace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0

there are people out there that 'convert' to Islam to sabotage it.

 

[Zebo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUtvOW6SR0

there are people out there that 'convert' to Islam to sabotage it.

As if it needs sabotaging - 14621, terror attacks, all cataloged with death tolls in it's name since 911

 

[Zebo]

When you look at the religion as the cause for terrorism you've already lost, by descending into bigotry. The bible for example is full of reasons of why you should be stoned or otherwise violently put to death, should you fail to perform whatever random and illogical commands inscribed within. Open up some old book of law, you'll find tons of (what we NOW consider) reprehensible punishments for really rather trivial offenses.

Point is, old crap is OLD CRAP. And this includes religion. It's not so much that one religion is worse than any other (because that's not actually really the case), it's that NEW stuff is better than OLD stuff, and if you're fundamental and worship old stuff, you're going to think doing all sorts of crazy evil things is good. And that's regardless of if you're muslim, or christian or whatever.

Not that any of this is likely to be able to penetrate your thick hide of bigotry, I suspect.

It's funny how so many here purports to be the guardians of freedom, yet still are the most eager to dismantle that freedom by advocating profiling and mass-persecution of particular groups of people and whatnot... Yeah, you're just going to LOVE living in the kind of society you're wishing for. Watch out for Mr. Gestapo man, he'll come get you should yo do ANYTHING suspicious!

In the end, despite your evident good will and positive story, it is the authority of the Koran and accepted sources such as the Pact of Umar which have shaped Islam, Islamic law and affected the destiny of billions. It's old stuff still read and followed. Some take it very serious some not so serious. Everything Osama and other terrorists do is in fact condoned by those old sources and should not be dismissed as as bigotry to note that since mores, tenants, atmospherics and attitudes can not change unless they are addresses head on.

Amongst the major religions most have evolved of become irrelevant as they should with time. Islam and it's practitioners may be an exception or is just going through growing pains, I have not decided. But either way it's bad news like they all are when taken to extremes and must be castrated.

 

[dahunan]

How can anyone defend Islam... It should not exist.. anywhere on this FREE PLANET

Wack Jobs thinking their God appreciates them MURDERING his creations.. lmao...

 

[yllus]

It's a religion. What it effectively is depends on what those who practice it do.

The same thing also holds true for political philosophies. The many Left and Right radical military factions in the world have killed their share of people. Does that mean being on the Left or Right makes you a torturer, rapist, or murderer? No. It all depends on what those who practice it do.

I think that I could argue rather successfully that Islam (via the Koran) spends the most time of all of the major religions when it comes to talking about death and war with outsiders.

I'd like to see all of the world's newspapers do a reprint of the cartoons in question as a sign of solidarity with this poor cartoonist. Non-followers owe exactly zero respect to any religion - time to hammer that fact into the skulls of the ignorant.

 

[nobodyknows]

Don't be embarrassed, not everyone knows how to use google.

Buddhist violence and terrorism
Sri Lanka is rife with Buddhist terrorism.

Christian terrorism
UK seems to have the biggest problem with Christian terrorist groups. Protestants vs Catholics in Ireland is big.

Hindu terrorism

Christian terrorism in the US

Don't most of their action seem.... like begineers as compared to the vilolence done by Muslim terrorists, not to mention the number of occurences?

I do think that the Muslim terrorists actions against infidels and the Catholic/Protestant war in Ireland do seem to be quite similar, except of course the Muslims are doing much more on a global scale.

 

[ShawnD1]

Those are the silliest examples given that equate the scourge of our times, viz. Islamic terrorism that's like a cancer affecting the whole world with what are at best localized happenings and others like bombing of abortion clinics which don't even equate.

Because killing doctors for political reasons isn't terrorism?

 

[Zebo]

I think that I could argue rather successfully that Islam (via the Koran) spends the most time of all of the major religions when it comes to talking about death and war with outsiders.

I'd like to see all of the world's newspapers do a reprint of the cartoons in question as a sign of solidarity with this poor cartoonist. Non-followers owe exactly zero respect to any religion - time to hammer that fact into the skulls of the ignorant.

Are you kidding? Most artists are terrified of Islam and dare not cross it. We all remember the NEA funding defecation and urination on Jesus and millions of other insensitive 'art' for the last 40 or so odd years. It's was done because Christians are pussies and won't kill the artists unlike Islam who will cut your fuckin head off, slowly, on camera, as a message to fellow artists not to fuck with ROP.

You have to understand liberals are huge pussies. Same reason they won't throw blood at a biker but instead an pick on an old lady wearing a fur coat is the same reason they won't insult a retrograde, barbaric faith like Islam despite it's antithesis to liberalism - they fear.

Have you ever watched those beheadings by Jihadists - pretty stimulating to say the least, I've watched them all, heard the screams, the horror, and the message and it just reinforces my conviction that its pure fascism under guise of religion.

 

[Zebo]

Because killing doctors for political reasons isn't terrorism?

Chistain fundis commit one every 10 years compared to Muslim fundis commiting 15,000 terrorist action over the same time frame. I'll take the former if you're asking.

 

[Woofmeister]

Chistain fundis commit one every 10 years compared to Muslim fundis commiting 15,000 terrorist action over the same time frame. I'll take the former if you're asking.

So true. To say nothing of the fact that the difference in frequency is nothing as compared to the difference in degree. The comparison between abortion extremists and Islamic terrorists is particularly disingenuous. Lone whackos whose actions are immediately and forecefully condemed by mainstream religious authorities (as well as mainstream antiabortion groups) versus the millions of Moslems and Islamic Governments that approve of and support Islamic terrorism.

 

[tvarad]

So true. To say nothing of the fact that the difference in frequency is nothing as compared to the difference in degree. The comparison between abortion extremists and Islamic terrorists is particularly disingenuous. Lone whackos whose actions are immediately and forecefully condemed by mainstream religious authorities (as well as mainstream antiabortion groups) versus the millions of Moslems and Islamic Governments that approve of and support Islamic terrorism.

Case in point (read the last sentence carefully):

Gunmen kill 7 at Egypt church after Christmas Mass

Morons like Rainsford and Craig234 should be made to live amongst the Copts of Egypt, Christians of Pakistan, Bahai's of Iran and other non-muslim minorities in majority muslim states to get an idea of what the world is up against.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

but he was. so what is YOUR point?

if you're dumb enough to piss off a hive of bees, be prepared to deal with the consequences.

he better watch his back.

Bush called it a religion of peace, but he had the gall to actually go after the bad elements of that religion. Obama, not so much.