Dakota Pipeline - Protestors Assaulted With Water Cannons In Freezing Weather

[Kazukian]

And they shouldn't be harmed at all for it. But if those damn injuns start acting like people, we'll give them some pal-time with the dogs.

If they defend themselves, they're terrorists and deserve to be frozen to death.

That's offensive as hell, my daughter is Native American, as are several lifelong friends, you can fuck right off.

 

[MajinCry]

That's offensive as hell, my daughter is Native American, as are several lifelong friends, you can fuck right off.

I can't believe I have to explain this, but I'll play ball.

It's a caricature of the way Natives are treated by the majority of Americans. As you personally demonstrated, as have others, you consider the treatment of the Native American protestors just.

When white Americans obstructed the Government whilst armed to the teeth with weaponry, they got a slap on the wrist. When unarmed Native Americans protested the destruction of the environment, and the poisoning of their fresh water, they were set upon with attack dogs and pepper spray; you condoned the actions of the security personnel that attacked the protestors.

And in this very thread, you, along with Buckshot and Imported_Tajmahal, supported the actions of the police using water cannons on the Native Americans, in freezing temperatures. You supported them using tear gas and pepper spray, and were rather quick to deem the protestors as terrorists. But not the brutalizing police, oh no, they're in the right.

Another fine example of American excellence, is Piasabird. In my thread about Bernie Sanders voicing support for Native Americans, he resolutely proclaimed that they're all scum-sucking benefit scroungers who deserve all the rape, murder and sex trafficking they undergo.

It's also rather quaint, how you, an admitted molester and whitewasher, attempt to take a quote completely out of context, to spin it and somehow get yourself a false moral high ground. As you so often asked me earlier, I must ask; are you autistic?

If not, then you're a dishonest boob. Take your pick.


Edit: For those curious, here are a couple nice insights to some of the posters on this forum.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/elizabeth-warren-rips-the-donald.2476395/page-4
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...rt-of-native-americans.2465412/#post-38062736

 

[Kazukian]

It's like using the "n" word, you fucking asshole.

 

[MajinCry]

It's like using the "n" word, you fucking asshole.

See, this is the whitewashing.

It was the US that coined the term Indian, to denote Native Americans, because they looked like Indians to the nitwits that ended up on the continent. It's the same as calling Kyrgyz, Laotian, and Thai people Chinese, because "they all look the same", yet whilst the latter has rightfully fallen out of fashion, the former sticks.

And beloved patriot is just a corruption of that word; exactly like negro to great person, it goes indian to beloved patriot. And rather than admit that the US has this horrible racial bias against the Native Americans, you'd rather that the term be completely forgotten, to never be used in any context.

To follow that logic, Huckleberry Finn is an ungodly book that should never be read by any morally upstanding individual, nor To Kill A Mockingbird. The term great person is used throughout those books, after all.


Are you being facile on purpose, or are you just this much of a simpleton?

 

[Kazukian]

Rationalize all you want, it's a perjorative term, and organizations representing American Indians ask that it not be used.

 

[MajinCry]

Rationalize all you want, it's a perjorative term, and organizations representing American Indians ask that it not be used.

Dense as dense does.

Curiously, why are American Indians the ones concerning themselves with the term beloved patriot? Surely it should be Native Americans, what with them being the ones targeted by the slur.

 

[Kazukian]

Dense as dense does.

Curiously, why are American Indians the ones concerning themselves with the term beloved patriot? Surely it should be Native Americans, what with them being the ones targeted by the slur.

That makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Rationalize all you want, it's a perjorative term, and organizations representing American Indians ask that it not be used.

My son is treaty.
I raised 2 Lakota girls.
I live a couple hundred miles from the protest.
We are not offended by his use of the term injuns in this context

 

[Kazukian]

My son is treaty.
I raised 2 Lakota girls.
I live a couple hundred miles from the protest.
We are not offended by his use of the term injuns in this context

I disagree, and using that logic, the "n" word should no longer be off limits.

It's a perjorative term and has no use in modern language or discussions. "Eskimo" has been deemed a perjorative term, and IMHO, "beloved patriot" is much worse.


beloved patriot, a pejorative term for Native Americans. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/beloved patriot

 

[MajinCry]

I disagree, and using that logic, the "n" word should no longer be off limits.

It's a perjorative term and has no use in modern language or discussions.

Using the term great person is fine in certain contexts; for example, bringing to light America's history of extreme racism.

Do clarify; in your opinion is Huckleberry Fin, a satirical book by Mark Twain, a disgusting piece of literature?

 

[Kazukian]

Using the term great person is fine in certain contexts; for example, bringing to light America's history of extreme racism.

Do clarify; in your opinion is Huckleberry Fin, a satirical book by Mark Twain, a disgusting piece of literature?

A 150 year old book has no bearing on your use of the word beloved patriot.

 

[MajinCry]

A 150 year old book has no bearing on your use of the word beloved patriot.

Answer the question, please.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I disagree, and using that logic, the "n" word should no longer be off limits.

It's a perjorative term and has no use in modern language or discussions.

I remember the older girl there using the n word all the time when she went through her hip hop phase
Your sensitivity to the word injuns is noted, native rights are important
Did you say you are from Bismarck? We should go down to Standing Rock today and bring some samwiches

 

[Kazukian]

I remember the older girl there using the n word all the time when she went through her hip hop phase
Your sensitivity to the word injuns is noted, native rights are important
Did you say you are from Bismark? We should go down to Standing Rock today and bring some samwiches

I don't support the protests, grew up there & graduated from the U of Mary

Have been to a lot of Pow Wows, my mom was made a tribal "grandmother" @ 4 Bears, worked there for years.

Strong work on raising those girls, my hat's off to you & your spouse.

 

[Kazukian]

Answer the question, please.

You're an idiot for attempting to draw a parallel between the two.

 

[MajinCry]

You're an idiot for attempting to draw a parallel between the two.

You're the one that drew the parallel between "the n word" and beloved patriot, and that neither should be used in any context.

So clarify, should Huckleberry Finn be removed from bookstores everywhere?

 

[Orignal Earl]

I don't support the protests, grew up there & graduated from the U of Mary

Have been to a lot of Pow Wows, my mom was made a tribal "grandmother" @ 4 Bears, worked there for years.

I don't know anybody who hasn't been to a Pow Wow, it's like going to the fair
I've never seen a white elder before, your mom must be a special lady.

Strong work on raising those girls, my hat's off to you & your spouse.

lol
Oh look, he's going to criticize my parenting skills.
Get back to me after you've raised your daughter to your exact standards

edit- I should add the girls father was Lakota and was the primary father figure to the girls
The little girl there actually called me Uncle Cracker for the longest time and I loved it

 

[Kazukian]

Oh look, he's going to criticize my parenting skills.
Get back to me after you've raised your daughter to your exact standards

I'm a grandparent now, and my post wasn't sarcasm, it takes a special person to open their home like that and take on the responsibility, seriously, strong work, I know it's not easy.

Where do you live? People don't understand how sparse the population is in that part of the world, you've likely met my relatives or family friends. If the winters were milder, I'd move back, but screw -20 F plus windchill, LOL.

 

[MajinCry]

Getting back on topic, remember that supposed terrorist lass? The one with her arm blown off?

Aye, that was done with concussion grenades thrown by police. They deny the allegations, yet refuse to release a list of the weaponry used against the protestors.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...dakota-access-pipeline-sophia-wilansky-injury

Law enforcement officials did not respond to queries from the Guardian seeking a list of all the types of “less-than-lethal” weapons used on Sunday, a list of all the law enforcement agencies present and further details on its statements about the incident.

“The injuries are inconsistent with any resources utilized by law enforcement and are not a direct result of any tools or weapons used by law enforcement,” Iverson said in a statement.

Wayne Wilansky called law enforcement’s denial of using concussion grenades “nonsensical”.

“The doctor pulled shrapnel out of her arm,” he said, adding that surgeons had informed him that the injury was “entirely consistent” with a grenade explosion.

The Standing Rock Healer and Medical Council, a group of medical professionals at the encampments, also rejected the claim that the injury was caused by a propane explosion, citing witness accounts, the “lack of charring of flesh at the wound site” and “grenade pieces that have been removed from her arm in surgery”.

 

[Orignal Earl]

My niece going to make some samwiches and take them down to the protesters
She's a SJW

 

[Kazukian]

My niece going to make some samwiches and take them down to the protesters
She's a SJW

I don't support this particular protest, but I do support their right to protest. I hate that people are getting hurt

 

[Orignal Earl]

I'm a grandparent now, and my post wasn't sarcasm, it takes a special person to open their home like that and take on the responsibility, seriously, strong work, I know it's not easy.

Where do you live? People don't understand how sparse the population is in that part of the world, you've likely met my relatives or family friends. If the winters were milder, I'd move back, but screw -20 F plus windchill, LOL.

I'm a grandpa too, nothing special though. that's just normal everyday stuff

I live in oil and coal country Canada, just above Crosby ND, right on the border
I probably know some of your peeps cause I know everybody

We just went through the worse blizzard in HUNDREDS OF YEARS!!!
I spend most of the day outside as I have most of my life.
Ain't no thing

 

[Kazukian]

I'm a grandpa too, nothing special though. that's just normal everyday stuff

I live in oil and coal country Canada, just above Crosby ND, right on the border
I probably know some of your peeps cause I know everybody

We just went through the worse blizzard in HUNDREDS OF YEARS!!!
I spend most of the day outside as I have most of my life.
Ain't no thing

I put in 1 winter on a seismograph crew, that was enough, joined up with a crew that moved south in the wintertime after that.

Lived in Williston for a year, after the crash in the 80's, BURRR

 

[Orignal Earl]

I put in 1 winter on a seismograph crew, that was enough, joined up with a crew that moved south in the wintertime after that.

Lived in Williston for a year, after the crash in the 80's, BURRR

Seismograph guys were sitting very pretty in Williston during the last decade.
It's all been picking back up again lately too

 

[Kazukian]

Seismograph guys were sitting very pretty in Williston during the last decade.
It's all been picking back up again lately too

We made really good $. I managed to spend it pretty quickly too, LOL