Dad who left son to die in hot car might face death penalty

[WelshBloke]

Eye for an eye. Death in same manor as was done to victim...its the only way...

Nah.

Let's face it there's no positive to society in having someone in it that would slow cook their child because they were inconvenient to have around.
But society would be harmed by having a brutal punishment system.

If he did this as described then take him out the back of the courtroom and put a bullet in him then we should all just move on.

We shouldn't let his actions bring the rest of society down to his level.

 

[Vic]

As a father myself, my solution is to throw a gun loaded with a single bullet into his cell and tell him to make it quick.

 

[Engineer]

Explain? Because I 'almost' made a terrible mistake (but thank God that I didn't) and even though I didn't, I have been haunted by the thoughts of 'what if?' for 20 years? Because I want the guy to fry if the allegations are true?

I guess the poster that my above post came from decided to shit and run in this thread.

 

[SlickSnake]

Eye for an eye is completely justifiable in some cases, and this sounds like one of them. Especially so since Allisolm noticed he also claimed he had no conscious about it after the death when he was sexting someone, who wasn't his wife, obviously. This also showed plenty of motive for killing his son, too. Which eliminates 18 years of child support payments.

I'm sure mad scientists somewhere would be interested in wiring him up and monitoring his vital signs to see what really happens when a person bakes to death in a sealed up hot car.

 

[waggy]

That's revenge, not justice.

in many cases the two are the same.

 

[alzan]

Eye for an eye is completely justifiable in some cases, and this sounds like one of them. Especially so since Allisolm noticed he also claimed he had no conscious about it after the death when he was sexting someone, who wasn't his wife, obviously. This also showed plenty of motive for killing his son, too. Which eliminates 18 years of child support payments.

I'm sure mad scientists somewhere would be interested in wiring him up and monitoring his vital signs to see what really happens when a person bakes to death in a sealed up hot car.

Indeed, some of them in this very thread.

 

[nehalem256]

That's revenge, not justice.

Justice is about someone getting what they deserve.

Bad people deserve to have bad things happen to them

Ergo, doing bad things to bad people is justice

 

[Dari]

I'm willing to bet the wife was in on it too.

 

[Atreus21]

As a dad who drove 30 minutes with his little baby girl (nearly 20 years ago) in the car after forgetting to drop her off at daycare, I 'could' have possibly understood the forgetting part. I had absolutely no idea at that point that she was in the car and if I would have made it 5 more minutes, parked the car and went into work.....I'm still haunted by the very thought over 20 years later. But as the details come out and assuming that they prove to be true, this bastard (and possibly his wife) need to fry.

There was an article I read a few years ago about how this happens. Heartbreaking. This issue is not so cut and dry.

Glad you avoided it. Missing bullets like that gives a man reason for gratitude.

 

[soulcougher73]

Nah.

Let's face it there's no positive to society in having someone in it that would slow cook their child because they were inconvenient to have around.
But society would be harmed by having a brutal punishment system.

If he did this as described then take him out the back of the courtroom and put a bullet in him then we should all just move on.

We shouldn't let his actions bring the rest of society down to his level.

Ohhh ok...im fine with that too

 

[Engineer]

Glad you avoided it. Missing bullets like that gives a man reason for gratitude.

You don't even know. I'm still haunted by the thoughts of what if...

I wasn't the normal driver to daycare, my wife was. I was in a hurry and once I hit the road, she was instantly asleep. I became road hypnotized and found myself driving to work as I normally do without a second thought about it. For whatever reason, it hit me before I got there.

I couldn't have went on in life if I had not remembered.

 

[Zaap]

I can't imagine EVER, EVER forgetting my son is in the car. (Not at any age... in fact, when he was a really tiny infant even less so, because my thought of "where is he" was at the very forefront of my mind practically 24/7) If I put him in the car as an infant, there's no possible way I'd forget he was there.

I guess I could somehow see it if a spouse put the kid in the car and (for whatever incredibly stupid reason) didn't tell the driver. When babies are really small, they ride with the child seat facing backward and you often can't just look back and see that the kid is physically there. If the baby was a super-quiet car rider (like my son was) then the combination could make for the perfect (in the worst way) storm.


But the damning thing in this case: looking up info on death in a hot car. What kind of sick fuck does that, and then it just "happens?" It sounds like the most wretched type of asshole planned this.

If so, I don't want him to fry. I hope he spends life in prison with all the hardcore criminals in there knowing "this is the asshole who fried his kid in the car"... not that it'll be all that long a life.

 

[alzan]

Justice is about someone getting what they deserve.

Bad people deserve to have bad things happen to them

Ergo, doing bad things to bad people is justice

As usual you've picked a definition of a word that meets a preconceived notion. While it can be interpreted as someone getting what they deserve, in the US and other countries we've moved past the "eye for an eye" justice mentality, in large part because it does nothing in the way of preventing others from committing a particular crime. Killing someone who's committed murder only keeps that person from killing more people, it doesn't stop other people from committing murder.

No one "deserves" having bad things done to them for a given committed crime.

 

[PricklyPete]

Based on what is known at this point I suspect he will be convicted of murdering his son, if he is convicted he deserves the death penalty.

This.

 

[momeNt]

Needs to be removed from the gene pool and never be responsible for another human being, ever, ever again. Complete that task as they may.

That's kind of ironic, so by killing his son he was actually doing us a favor?

 

[nehalem256]

No one "deserves" having bad things done to them for a given committed crime.

So then in your opinion does

(1) Being locked in prison for decades not a bad thing?

or

(2) Does a person who murders their child not deserve to be locked in prison for decades?

 

[desy]

Doesn't sound like murder, it sounds like manslaughter of which the DP does not apply.
Awful hard to prove prior intent on murdering his kid which is the requirement for a murder 1 conviction, just super shoddy parenting.

 

[Attic]

Not sure if confirmed, but reports say the Dad went to the car during work hours to get something or whatnot. Video appears to show the dad going to the car to check on something.

Looks premeditated to me. Though often times things aren't what they seem, i'm having a hard time figuring how it can be possible to give benefit of doubt to the dad here given so much indicates it wasn't just a "oops I forget" that went terribly wrong.

 

[CLite]

I have young child and enjoy every blessed moment of it. I can't begin to fathom how depraved you have to be to slow-cook your innocent and helpless child to death. It becomes even more disgusting when you throw in a 26k or whatever life insurance policy. The kid probably idolized this asshole and was wondering when his larger than life dad was going to come help him. My wife and I were sick to our stomach when we read this story.

I hope justice prevails, but this guy did something that no legal system has a real appropriate sentence for.

 

[desy]

Hey I've forgot to pick my kids up at daycare, made it all the way home and went hmm missing somebody and I'd be a rockstar of parental reliability compared to this clown.
If the court feels they have a case to push for murder they should, I'm just saying it would be hard to prove and will probably end up pleading down if they guy gets any kind of lawyer at all.

 

[silverpig]

Evidently both he and his wife were doing searches for how long it would take a pet to die in a car and he was frequenting web sites about not having children. His wife was upset with his spending habits and they had two life insurance policies on their son, one for $2K and one for $25K. When you put together what is known so far, it looks bad. But if he gets the right lawyer and the right judge, he may be found insane.

Some of the info out there doesn't make sense in some respects but it is early in the investigation. Supposedly he took some light bulbs out to his car he purchased and had co-workers with him when he did so.

No sense typing it all out, the rest is in here.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-his-22-month-old-son-slowly-died-in-hot-car/

I came to this thread to say that if the guy was just negligent (i.e., an idiot), then I don't think he should be put to death. Actually, I'm against the death penalty anyways, so I still don't. However, even in a death-penalty state, I don't think you should be up for it just because you're an idiot. Unless they can show intent, he should face something less serious.

But this is different. It looks like he planned to let his child die in the SUV and should have the book thrown at him.

That said, how stupid can you be to think that's the best way to get away with killing a kid?