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Dad killl son for having sex with tot

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waggy said:
thats bullshit.

i was 15 and a horny kid. I NEVER touches a 3 yr old. why? i know its fucking sick and have the self control to not do it.

in fact none of the other guys i know have ever done anything like this.
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If one of them had, would having their Father gun them down while they were pleading for their life be acceptable punishment to you?

KT
 
RedSquirrel said:
"If something were to happen that would cause a reasonable person to lose control of himself, that is something the prosecution would have to take into account,"

I find that's BS. Murder is murder. No matter what state of mind the killer is in, it's still murder, and should be treated as such. The decision should not be influenced by this at all.

Sure what the kid did was wrong, but it does not justify murder.
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this.

wow, i'm still in shock over this story. i can't imagine a father taking his son out at gunpoint while his and his wife are begging, crying, and pleading him to stop, and then just executing him.

wow.
 
KeithTalent said:
If one of them had, would having their Father gun them down while they were pleading for their life be acceptable punishment to you?

KT
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where have i said its acceptable punishment? as i said the father should sit in jail or death. But i also don't have a lot of sympathy for the kid either.


but there is no justification for a 15 yr old to mollest a 3 yr old. NONE. saying that a kid does not have the self control to keep from doing it is fucking stupid. sure i did stupid stuff at 15 but mollestation and rape never entered my mind.
 
RedSquirrel said:
"If something were to happen that would cause a reasonable person to lose control of himself, that is something the prosecution would have to take into account,"

I find that's BS. Murder is murder. No matter what state of mind the killer is in, it's still murder, and should be treated as such. The decision should not be influenced by this at all.

Sure what the kid did was wrong, but it does not justify murder.
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Murder is unjustifiable killing, with that in mind it's quite important that we consider all the circumstances and details. Of course murder is murder, but nowhere has it been said that the guy is guilty of murder, just that he killed the pedo.
 
Hypothetically speaking. What if the dad had abused the son and that's where the son learned the behavior. So the dad kills the son to prevent the truth from coming out in court.
 
This is Darwinism at work. The kid no longer gets to be a deviant, and the father no longer gets to procreate. To be honest, while it's a horrible situation - justice has been and is being served.
 
waggy said:
thats bullshit.

i was 15 and a horny kid. I NEVER touches a 3 yr old. why? i know its fucking sick and have the self control to not do it.

in fact none of the other guys i know have ever done anything like this.
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No it isn't Bulshit! I specifically said it wasn't right and the boy deserves punishment but the fact is no one is the same some have more control of themselves than others. Just because you had the discipline to never do anything like that at 15 doesn't mean every 15 yr old does. All I am saying is no matter what he's done he was only 15 and that does make a difference.
 
NesuD said:
No it isn't Bulshit! I specifically said it wasn't right and the boy deserves punishment but the fact is no one is the same some have more control of themselves than others. Just because you had the discipline to never do anything like that at 15 doesn't mean every 15 yr old does. All I am saying is no matter what he's done he was only 15 and that does make a difference.
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again bullshit.

I never said the boy deserved death. but im not goin to cry over it. The child SHOULD have the self control to NOT MOLLEST a 3 yr old. its not hard hell i am willing to bet 95% of ATOT had the amount of self control.

Since the boy didnt' have the self control and was killed over it i am not going to cry that he is off the streets. But thats not how you solve such problems and the father should get the chair for it (to bad the guy will most likely get off or a few years in jail).
 
waggy said:
where have i said its acceptable punishment? as i said the father should sit in jail or death. But i also don't have a lot of sympathy for the kid either.


but there is no justification for a 15 yr old to mollest a 3 yr old. NONE. saying that a kid does not have the self control to keep from doing it is fucking stupid. sure i did stupid stuff at 15 but mollestation and rape never entered my mind.
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I did not say you had said it was acceptable punishment, I was just asking the question.

I do not think anyone thinks what the kid did was ok, I know I certainly do not, but I just find it quite shocking that they are so quick to accept how the Father reacted.

KT
 
NesuD said:
No it isn't Bulshit! I specifically said it wasn't right and the boy deserves punishment but the fact is no one is the same some have more control of themselves than others. Just because you had the discipline to never do anything like that at 15 doesn't mean every 15 yr old does. All I am saying is no matter what he's done he was only 15 and that does make a difference.
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I don't think waggy understands that. How does he know none of his friends didn't as well? He doesn't for sure. Unless he can read their minds.
 
waggy said:
where have i said its acceptable punishment? as i said the father should sit in jail or death. But i also don't have a lot of sympathy for the kid either.


but there is no justification for a 15 yr old to mollest a 3 yr old. NONE. saying that a kid does not have the self control to keep from doing it is fucking stupid. sure i did stupid stuff at 15 but mollestation and rape never entered my mind.
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You Dumbass! I never said that was justification. You are a fool. I explicitly said it was despicable and deserved punishment. That just illustrated why any grown man let alone his father shouldn't of executed him like he was your typical 30 something pedo.
 
KeithTalent said:
I did not say you had said it was acceptable punishment, I was just asking the question.

I do not think anyone thinks what the kid did was ok, I know I certainly do not, but I just find it quite shocking that they are so quick to accept how the Father reacted.

KT
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no i don't think the kid deserved death. that is not how justice is supposed to work. Hopefully the father sits in jail for life or gets the electric chair.

nobody is saying what the kid did is ok. but there are some that are justifiying it by saying that hormones are so strong they can't control themselves so they mollest kids. i think that is bullshit.
 
waggy said:
I never said the boy deserved death. but im not goin to cry over it. The child SHOULD have the self control to NOT MOLLEST a 3 yr old. its not hard hell i am willing to bet 95% of ATOT had the amount of self control.
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but we all know the kid who put pb on his balls and let his dog have a go, and somehow didn't grow up to bang goats and horses (we're talking US here, not NZ).

we still don't know exactly what he did do we? there's a difference between putting the baby's hand on his pee pee and breaking out the ky.
 
Is this the dad?

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The irony of this situation is that the father will get the due process of law that he chose to deny to his own son. Regardless of how you or I or anyone feels about this particular case, one thing is certain: The father did NOT have the right to murder his son.
 
im of the belief that all child molestors should be put to death the first time their caught. That's not something you get a 2nd chance on.

So, in my opinion, the father just saved the taxpayers some money.
 
waggy said:
no i don't think the kid deserved death. that is not how justice is supposed to work. Hopefully the father sits in jail for life or gets the electric chair.

nobody is saying what the kid did is ok. but there are some that are justifiying it by saying that hormones are so strong they can't control themselves so they mollest kids. i think that is bullshit.
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It is bullshit. If you're 15 and you can't stop yourself from doing that, there is something terribly wrong with you. There is no way you can argue that the kid didn't know any better. Does that absolve the dad? Of course not, but it in no way absolves the kid either. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the kid was that way in part because of bad parenting (which might have been why the father reacted like he did, feeling it was his fault and that he needed to rectify it). We can't be for sure.
 
Kadarin said:
The irony of this situation is that the father will get the due process of law that he chose to deny to his own son. Regardless of how you or I or anyone feels about this particular case, one thing is certain: The father did NOT have the right to murder his son.
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No one has the right to kill another human being unless it is in self defense. Even then better to just injure them.
 
jonks said:
but we all know the kid who put pb on his balls and let his dog have a go, and somehow didn't grow up to bang goats and horses (we're talking US here, not NZ).

we still don't know exactly what he did do we? there's a difference between putting the baby's hand on his pee pee and breaking out the ky.
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Um, what?!? Most 15 year olds that I knew were busy trying to get laid with girls of roughly the same age. Don't project your own life experience onto that of others.

Sure there's a bit of a difference, but they're not that far off from each other, and if you're willing to do either one, you're completely fucked in the head.

Kadarin said:
The irony of this situation is that the father will get the due process of law that he chose to deny to his own son. Regardless of how you or I or anyone feels about this particular case, one thing is certain: The father did NOT have the right to murder his son.
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No one is saying he did. Hell, he could be justified in doing it, and not have the right to do it.
 
SunSamurai said:
Its not GREY at all.

Its fully red.

Kid should of been booted to a rehabilitation center.

Murdered? No.


Imagine in 10 years now, the girl learns of this. Now weigh the molestation factor to the murdered becuse of it factor.

The molestation would be huge.. something to have to live with. To deal with. bastard, etc.... The murder? Thats final. Thats the end. She cannot even confront him now. Ever. It leaves a very painful hole of closer that never can happen now.

What do you suppose would effect her more? Think people. :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
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Rehab center? Are you out of your fucking mind? These sick fucks should be executed. It was a 3 year old. If he's starting out at this age, who knows what kind of nutjob he'll grow up to be.
 
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