Dad calls cops on son, to teach him a "lesson" ..Cops shoot son dead

[BoberFett]

Who is still looking to do that in this day and age? The science is pretty clear in showing that it leads to a worse prognosis for the kids, who are more disposed to being violent and dishonest as compared to kids who are not physically punished. I was spanked as a kid but I would never do that to my own kids.

Clearly you've turned into a violent monster after such abuse...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=to-spank-or-not-to-spank

The task force was not unanimous in its conclusion. Psychologist Robert E. Larzelere of Oklahoma State University argued that the research is flawed and that the evidence against spanking is “faulty.” In the few studies that have compared spanking with other forms of punishment, such as restriction of privileges, grounding and time-outs, all the punitive measures examined resulted in similarly negative outcomes in children, Larzelere said. He recom*mended that parents use spanking as a backup when gentler forms of pun*ishment are not working. “Premature bans against spanking may undermine loving parental authority,” Larzelere said.

I'm not claiming you should beat your children regularly for fun. I'm not even saying it should be the first choice. I'm saying it's a tool for parents. Sometimes a swat on the butt is what they need to know you're serious. I never had to with my daughter but, and I know this will come as a shock to you, every child is different.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

That's almost never a safe option in any city or suburban area. I would bet that most city PD's do not allow it at all.

Also, it doesn't disable the vehicle even slightly, as many videotaped pursuits show.

Plus, at close range, the risk of ricochet off the wheel is high.

I agree which is why spike strips were created instead.

 

[dabuddha]

See, smoking kills.

And yeah if that was the video of the pursuit, fuck that kid. He was barreling through residential areas at high speeds and wasn't going to stop.

Feel bad for the dad though.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Try it and let us know how it works out for you.

Let me get this straight, you feel that a police officer using the pit manuver to stop you due to your failure to stop gives you the right to self defense. If you were successful with shooting and killing the police officer you would never see freedom the rest of you life. Then again you could finally live in your utopia world you want so badly, though it would be in a prison cell.

You really are a total anarchist tool that resists authority just for the sake of resisting authority. What if the cop simply wants to let you know something is wrong with your car? Like letting you know you have a tail light out?

When you run from the cops for no apparent reason you are either 1) stupid or 2) done something very wrong.

Why wouldn't you pull over?

So the teacher asks whats 2+2?

The four stooges above say "I like turtles"

That's nice and all but doesn't answer the question.

 

[brycejones]

So the teacher asks whats 2+2?

The four stooges above say "I like turtles"

That's nice and all but doesn't answer the question.

Because your question was retarded. You come here and bitch and moan about how oppressed you feel. Go out and try and throw off your oppression or stfu......

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So the teacher asks whats 2+2?

The four stooges above say "I like turtles"

That's nice and all but doesn't answer the question.

The answer to the question is life is not this pie in the sky fantasy world you wish to live in and no matter how hard you try it will never come into being so get over it cupcake and deal with reality.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Because your question was retarded. You come here and bitch and moan about how oppressed you feel. Go out and try and throw off your oppression or stfu......

I wouldn't want that tiny brain of yours to overload under thought. You chose to stick with your programming.

The answer to the question is life is not this pie in the sky fantasy world you wish to live in and no matter how hard you try it will never come into being so get over it cupcake and deal with reality.

We've been over your theory above before so reference my response then. Just like your knuckle dragging friend above you're always quick with stupidity and slow on thought.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Okay Cupcake, let us know when you get live that dream life of yours instead of paying taxes and living within the laws of the US/respective state government.

 

[Tom]

So I'm driving down the street minding my own business and behind me some warning lights come on indicating I should pull over but I don't. I continue driving down the street watching speed limits, pedestrians etc. The officer is incensed at this point. I failed to stop when his threat lights came on. He now rams my vehicle into a ditch in order to stop me. Since it has been claimed and accepted that a moving vehicle is a deadly weapon, it would be no stretch to claim that I was pulled over by deadly force. Would I then be right in firing my gun at the officer and killing him in self defense since he was so intent on taking my life with his rolling weapon? If not, why?

You're required to stop, its not optional. Its against the law not to comply.

The police have limited rights to use force to enforce the law. Up to and including deadly force.

You say a moving vehicle IS a deadly weapon, that's not factually correct. It could be, that doesn't mean it always IS one.

There's no pat answer to your scenario. Police review boards, prosecutors, judges, and juries would possibly be involved in deciding the case based on the facts and the law.

But based on your incomplete facts there's nothing improper about the police enforcing the law, which you would be breaking.

 

[monbell5032]

I blame the whole thing on the dis functional family

 

[NoStateofMind]

You're required to stop, its not optional. Its against the law not to comply.

There are many laws and all of them are just a politicians opinion. Nothing more.

The police have limited rights to use force to enforce the law. Up to and including deadly force.

Deadly force when I don't stop for their threat lights? A little excessive don't you think?

You say a moving vehicle IS a deadly weapon, that's not factually correct. It could be, that doesn't mean it always IS one.

No, I didn't say shit. All your statist cohorts here have made that claim and IIRC is how a moving vehicle is interpreted in the scenario of the OP. The "law enforcer" uses that exact claim in order to shoot the sad soul in that truck. Don't like it? Take it up with all your buddies.

There's no pat answer to your scenario. Police review boards, prosecutors, judges, and juries would possibly be involved in deciding the case based on the facts and the law.

There's an answer you just refuse to think about it. Its simple really. Laws are not equally applied. Which means a separate class of people are created below that of the state mercenaries. All your "police", "judges", "courts" are all guilty of perpetuating this subjugation. You clowns don't help by always siding with authority when situations are the same. Always making excuses for the ruling class while blaming one of your own for not being a good little slave and just doing as he's told.

But based on your incomplete facts there's nothing improper about the police enforcing the law, which you would be breaking.

Yep and they do, regularly. What is legal doesn't make it right. The kid who was murdered in the video will be ignored for the most part. Officers did their "duty" and did what the law allows instead of through the filter of their own conscience.