Current state of the GOP

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CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

I did not blame liberals for the GOP's problems. I blamed GOP RINO's and the party not having a good leader. You'd have realized that if you'd have read my post.

Yes, the last 8 years have been too liberal for being GOP controlled. Yes, if the GOP had stayed Conservative they would not be in the position they are in today.
I've stated this many times in various ways so you can take your motive questioning and shove it up your ass. Now please actually READ what I post instead of ASSume I didn't answer your question just because I didn't answer it the way you wanted me to or presumed I should.

Wow... very angry arent you. OK, as a "liberal jughead", I will now go and shove my motive based question up my ass.

Have a nice election =)

Nope, not angry at all. But atleast you woke up and actually read my post. ;)
 

Corbett

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I dont think they are too socially liberal. Fiscally liberal on the other hand...thats been the main problem of their falling apart.
 

UberNeuman

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Jschmuck2 - you only hear that line about "becoming too socially liberal" from GOP supporters when their party is losing... If they stand to win, then their dogma works for them...

There's no saving the GOP as long as they cling to their fundies and dummies.....
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: spidey07
LOL! The republican party has moved farther left, not right. Hence original republicans being pissed off at their own party. So I agree there are splits in the party, but to call it moving right is just not true.

And Powell sold out a while ago so he is not a good representative.


They have moved fiscally left and socially even more right. Horrible combination that is the reason they are being tossed out.

Nailed it.
 

Jschmuck2

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I want to hear it - specifically from CAD - how have they become more socially liberal?

Back up your FUD.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I want to hear it - specifically from CAD - how have they become more socially liberal?

Back up your FUD.

So you started this thread as a lame attempt at a call out thread?

Why not just participate in the other thread...

F'n troll...
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I want to hear it - specifically from CAD - how have they become more socially liberal?

Back up your FUD.

So you started this thread as a lame attempt at a call out thread?

Why not just participate in the other thread...

F'n troll...

Cant blame the guy... You didnt point it out in the other thread either.

How has the GOP become socially liberal? What have they done?

Change Gay marriage? no
Change Abortion? no

There are several other items, but none that I can think of them having changed... What is it?
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I want to hear it - specifically from CAD - how have they become more socially liberal?

Back up your FUD.

So you started this thread as a lame attempt at a call out thread?

Why not just participate in the other thread...

F'n troll...

Cant blame the guy... You didnt point it out in the other thread either.

How has the GOP become socially liberal? What have they done?

Change Gay marriage? no
Change Abortion? no

There are several other items, but none that I can think of them having changed... What is it?

I addressed my comments in the other thread. Maybe you and the OP had your head too far up your ass to actually read why I stated what I did.

Anyway, continue on with the troll thread if you wish, but I've already addressed this issue in the other one.
 

Jschmuck2

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Clue for you - Yes, Bush and too many in the GOP have been too liberal on ALL fronts. FAR too many RINOs and spineless GOP members held sway in the GOP. Bush, the RINOs and the liberals haven't met any spending they haven't supported in the past 8 years. They've also given into the liberal views socially as they haven't pushed these ideals because they wanted to be too "nice" and thus didn't stand up for their core beliefs. They allowed the liberals to set the premise of too many discussions and didn't challenge those premises when they were dead wrong.

Follow up posts:

I did not blame liberals for the GOP's problems. I blamed GOP RINO's and the party not having a good leader. You'd have realized that if you'd have read my post. Yes, the last 8 years have been too liberal for being GOP controlled. Yes, if the GOP had stayed Conservative they would not be in the position they are in today. I've stated this many times in various ways so you can take your motive questioning and shove it up your ass. Now please actually READ what I post instead of ASSume I didn't answer your question just because I didn't answer it the way you wanted me to or presumed I should.

Please. Continue.
Wrong. Even socially they have given in to the liberals as their spine was already compromised fiscally. Also there is no such thing as a church free state - which is what you seem to suggest needs to happen. And no, it's not a "core part" of the Constitution. What the Constitution states is that the gov't can't establish a religion....you know...like England had - which people were looking to escape. But that's a whole different discussion and one that's been had here many many times.
 

Jschmuck2

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For us Liberal jugheads, you might have to re-word your explanation. We're obviously too slow to get it.
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
For us Liberal jugheads, you might have to re-word your explanation. We're obviously too slow to get it.

I think it's only fair CAD, just to get what your opinion of this matter out of the way...

 

Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I want to hear it - specifically from CAD - how have they become more socially liberal?

Back up your FUD.

So you started this thread as a lame attempt at a call out thread?

Why not just participate in the other thread...

F'n troll...

Cant blame the guy... You didnt point it out in the other thread either.

How has the GOP become socially liberal? What have they done?

Change Gay marriage? no
Change Abortion? no

There are several other items, but none that I can think of them having changed... What is it?

I addressed my comments in the other thread. Maybe you and the OP had your head too far up your ass to actually read why I stated what I did.

Anyway, continue on with the troll thread if you wish, but I've already addressed this issue in the other one.

C'mon - pull your head out of your ass and back up your comments.
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I want to hear it - specifically from CAD - how have they become more socially liberal?

Back up your FUD.

So you started this thread as a lame attempt at a call out thread?

Why not just participate in the other thread...

F'n troll...

Cant blame the guy... You didnt point it out in the other thread either.

How has the GOP become socially liberal? What have they done?

Change Gay marriage? no
Change Abortion? no

There are several other items, but none that I can think of them having changed... What is it?

I addressed my comments in the other thread. Maybe you and the OP had your head too far up your ass to actually read why I stated what I did.

Anyway, continue on with the troll thread if you wish, but I've already addressed this issue in the other one.

Addressed? You did SAY that they are moving to the left and are too liberal, you made zero mention of what they did that was too liberal, or any examples at all of them being too liberal. You see, many people here don't see the republican party as socially liberal at all, and are asking what the hell they did?
 

Thump553

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Do you think Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt would think of the current GOP as remotely "socially liberal?"

The GOP has to get out of the legislating moral behavior business if they want to be more than a large fringe group. There is a crying need for a fiscally reasonable (ie, conservative) party these days, but they don't give that any more than lip service.

I've never understood how one party could demand invididual control over the pocketbook but demand group control over all other personal decisions.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Thump553
Do you think Abe Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt would think of the current GOP as remotely "socially liberal?"

The GOP has to get out of the legislating moral behavior business if they want to be more than a large fringe group. There is a crying need for a fiscally reasonable (ie, conservative) party these days, but they don't give that any more than lip service.

I've never understood how one party could demand invididual control over the pocketbook but demand group control over all other personal decisions.

Right they demand less government control over everything, except drugs, who you have sex with, how you have sex with them, whether or not you carry a child to term, whether or not you're allowed to die with dignity in the manner that you choose.

But totally against government intrusion, right? Got it.

Sorry but that's a hell of a lot more intrusive than eminent domain and BS like that, your body is THE ONE THING you should have complete control over.