Cuba Fires 1 Million Government Workers--Paul Ryan Not Extreme

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I already quoted you, or have you forgotten already?

Smaller govt? It's already happening-

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And it's part of the unemployment problem. Not that the wunderkind of the Right have any comprehension of the truth-

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/the-zombie-that-ate-rand-pauls-brain/

Lay off govt workers to vanquish unemployment! Cut taxes to close the deficit gap! Kill benefit programs to help poor children & seniors!


The government isn't getting smaller and there aren't real cuts.
 

cybrsage

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Those other countries are also ...other countries. Why do people continually think that just because something is done in another country it will work in America?

Dunno - but people invoke it whenever it suits their cause (such as legalizing drugs or universal healthcare) and say it is irrelevant when it does not (like in this thread). The items in the () can be reversed based on the individual, of course.

One must look at the specifics of the item and see how it can be applied, if at all, to our nation. We can use the Brits for things, since we are culturally much like them, but they are far less freedom oriented than we are in the US so that must be taken into account.

We can learn from other nations, but cannot just slap their solutions onto our problems and hope it works...for it will not. :)
 

Kung Lau

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11291267




Cuba is firing 1 million government workers who comprise 85% of the workforce, this amount of people working for the government is not healthy and requires huge support from the PRIVATE sector.

Cuba fires 1 million workers, this is extreme and radical but NEEDED, Raul Castro even admitted this and wants the government to have a smaller role in the economy. This is good news and is needed in order to fix the economy

Paul Ryan who isn't a Fiscal Conservative and under his plan there wont be anywhere near as many people being fired. So why is his plan called extreme and radical when its not? Yet there is no outrage over what happened in Cuba

Do you agree that the Paul Ryan plan is NOT radical and extreme and the critics are just lying and fear mongering?




So because Hitler and Stalin killed millions of people, Manson is an ok dude?
 

ModerateRepZero

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Cuba != America, so comparing the extreme actions of the Cuban government to anyone in American politics is, well, just incredibly stupid.

This ^^ Cuba has a closed political system, and from its own public statements is doing this out of necessity (provide an alternative to the displaced government workers) to try to boost its economic system. Of course when you're going from 0 to 60, it's extreme.

The US is in a much different position then Cuba. So trying to say that "cutting government workers by comparison is not extreme", is a bad one to make; apples and oranges.

We just need more jobs, period.

When the revered and sanctified Job Creators aren't, creating jobs, that is, then somebody else has to do it.

This ^^ Government is one of the largest job providers, period. 23 million state & local employees and over 4 million federal employees. By comparison, Walmart has 2.2 million employees. If you cut government workers, therefore, private business has to pick up the slack.

Have they? no not really. While business and the economy has slowly been recovering, hiring generally has not. It's not due to a lack of profits; it has increased, and so has their hoarding of cash.

I think there is way too much fear mongering and the people are so stupid to believe it but yes there is nothing extreme about Paul Ryan

Baloney. Ryan wants to change Medicare as we know it, permanently. And as people elsewhere have pointed out, if his Medicare plan is such a "good deal", exempting people over a certain age doesn't send the right message.

As for his budget plan, cutting benefit programs and pushing tax cuts while not touching Defense spending or raising taxes on the wealthy is fuzzy math.

Are you saying I cant be right on anything?

I was right on the war on drugs, look at all the people that agreed with me, check my sig as well. I was also right about the other issues.

Anyways Paul Ryan will cut nowhere close to 1million yet we call him extreme, the critics must issue the truth

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. And the truth is that you're comparing apples to oranges, or in logic terms, using false equivalence.

Well said. Cuba has the right idea of CUTTING GOVERNMENT WORKERS

And as Jhhnn pointed out, government workers include teachers, police officers, and other jobs that we take for granted and depend on for society to function.

The government isn't getting smaller and there aren't real cuts.
Because it's easier to moan and talk about smaller government than fixing it, and because it's a hard task.

It also doesn't help that in some cases government regulators are lagging behind business. Because politicians and special interest groups have been neutering government enforcement for decades. Take the environment, including the Clean Air Act.....and oil