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Cub Scout Fail

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Did you take my advice about contacting your den leader? Sounds like you didn't.
I know you and your wife aren't in it for the badges but in my experience the kids really like them. Especially at a young age. It helps keep them engaged and gives them and you a goal to work toward.
The socialization aspect is important to I don't disagree with you there.
Did you even read my previous posts?
 
My very first Cub Scout weekend camping trip was traumatizing as a kid, as our Cub Leader suffered a massive heart attack and died right in front of us.
 
Cub scouts then boy scouts then they get their eagle scout shit. Then they quit and they write that they've been doing scouts for multiple years on their college app.
 
I went through all of Scouts. I worked at a summer camp for 3 summers as well.

Basically what it all comes down to is: Local unit leadership is (usually) great, and ignores the BS (such as the homophobic crap), District is often stupid, Council is really stupid, and National (including the stores) is filled with morons and religious wackos.

When possible, deal with local people. If its a district event, and you just show up and send your son off with his den/pack, none of the leaders should care all that much (including the ones leading activities). The lower on the totem pole someone is, usually the more they care about the kids having a good time and succeeding and less the BS.

Some of the politics of National (and many councils) is disheartening, especially the black lists that are being released, but on the whole local Scouting is great. It gave me an opportunity to learn skills that have been immensely useful in my life and experience that will last a lifetime. Even many of the values resonate with me, the real values found in the oath and law not the BS National spews to keep the Mormons happy. Many councils realize this, and individuals even more. My troop didn't kick out kids they suspected of being gay (never had any confirmed until they were in their 20s and no longer involved, even then they were not spoken poorly of). The council adjacent to my home council even has a non-discrimination clause that includes sexual orientation (which they flagrantly told National to piss off about). And when I worked at camp, the couples times that staff even suspected that a leader was abusing a child (sexually or otherwise) the police and parents were called, and the leader was either arrested or escorted off the premise and banned.
 
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Did you take my advice about contacting your den leader? Sounds like you didn't.
I know you and your wife aren't in it for the badges but in my experience the kids really like them. Especially at a young age. It helps keep them engaged and gives them and you a goal to work toward.
The socialization aspect is important to I don't disagree with you there.
Did you even read my previous posts?

I read your posts. I had already gone that route (Den Leader) and was waiting a call back. She got in touch with the higher-ups and got authorization for my kids to go. It's all good now, and the kids will never realize what really went on. Thanks for your suggestions though.

As Kreon said (and is true with most organizations), the local folks know the score, the higher ups outside your local area are mostly idiots in it for the clout and power it gives them.

Newbian, your post made me choke.
 
you do know roughly %5 get a eagle scout. in 2011 51k received (http://www.scouting.org/About/FactSheets/ScoutingFacts.aspx) it.

its not a hard thing to do.but it does show you are willing to put in the time and effort.

Alkemyst just doesn't get it. Don't bother responding to him. It's a waste.

I've had 5 Eagle Scouts go through the robotics I handle in the last 4 years. Every one of them was an outstanding individual. They aren't nearly as rare as Alky believes they are. 51000 / 50 states = 1000 / state / year.

Oh look, there he goes. Thread derailment city.
 
Alkemyst just doesn't get it. Don't bother responding to him. It's a waste.

I've had 5 Eagle Scouts go through the robotics I handle in the last 4 years. Every one of them was an outstanding individual. They aren't nearly as rare as Alky believes they are. 51000 / 50 states = 1000 / state / year.

Oh look, there he goes. Thread derailment city.

Did you ever think the program they make you teach is somehow focused on?

You went full retard here saying 5% is common.
 
It's 5% and I hate to tell you this since you never really amounted to a good 5% in your life, that it's not common.

51,000 eagle scouts in the world that common to you bro?

yeah..51k eagle scouts A YEAR seems good to me.

is it rare? not really. is it uncommon? yeah. i know 5 Eagle scouts. 2 up and coming ones.


either way your post was acting as if they are very rare. they aren't. i do agree they aren't common either.
 
yeah..51k eagle scouts A YEAR seems good to me.

is it rare? not really. is it uncommon? yeah. i know 5 Eagle scouts. 2 up and coming ones.


either way your post was acting as if they are very rare. they aren't. i do agree they aren't common either.

I can count to potatoe. So thanks for telling us America is surrounded by Eagle Scouts.
 
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