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Cub Scout Fail

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Pulsar

Pulsar

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So, there's a big Cub Scout get-together today for the kids where they get to camp out over night.

My wife discussed the event while she was picking up my kids uniforms yesterday (which are made in Bangladesh.... didn't the Olympic committee get enough press for people to figure that shit out?). They told us that we could register today. They being the cashier, who was handling the sign ups.

We would have registered yesterday, but they had doctors appointments we had to be sure we could cancel without being charged.

So today she calls to register and is told she can't by the manager of the store. Who knew that the Cub Scouts had actual stores? Not me. After a huge argument, she was told that no, the kids can't go. She pointed out that there are always cancellations if it's a matter of space. How they can run out of space in a giant field is beyond me too....

So the manager tells her we can't go. My kids are going to be heartbroken.

Screw you Cub Scouts. You do NOT get the Helpful Cub Scout merit badge. There's got to be something in the handbook about this. Something like trying to be helpful, etc.

Update: My wife just called the campsite and they told her they had a ton of space. So she's reserving a campsite on the edge of the cub scout thing so she can take the kids.

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Piss off the organization - have your kids help with some LGBT sort of organization. Publicly. In a cub scout capacity. That'll learn em.
 
I do not understand their significance in this day and age. To me it seems like parents are more involved than kids. The whole organization seems to be run my people who failed to do anything else in their life and now want all the attention they can get (much like university police). Too much bureaucracy if you ask me, and too little for the kids to learn...
 
You might have more success talking with your local den leader about signing up for the campout. Shoot him/her an email or phone call describing the situation and see if they cant be more helpfull.
My sons den leader is a really nice guy with a son the same age as ours and he is always willing to help or atleast try.
 
DesiPower said:
I do not understand their significance in this day and age. To me it seems like parents are more involved than kids. The whole organization seems to be run my people who failed to do anything else in their life and now want all the attention they can get (much like university police). Too much bureaucracy if you ask me, and too little for the kids to learn...
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You know this how? Do you have kids in scouting?
 
our cub scout pack is pretty boss. We're a super pack and had the most new recruits in the 5 county area. Great leaders and a fantastic group of people overall.
 
I say worry about the scouts fixing their rampant homophobia problems before worrying about the outsourcing of their uniforms.


Besides....promoting the export to 3rd world and developing countries of our industrial age labor atrocities is true patriotism!
 
DesiPower said:
I do not understand their significance in this day and age. To me it seems like parents are more involved than kids. The whole organization seems to be run my people who failed to do anything else in their life and now want all the attention they can get (much like university police). Too much bureaucracy if you ask me, and too little for the kids to learn...
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Cub scouts is run by parents. Do you really want 1st and 2nd graders trying to organize and run something? They do get more involved as they get older until 6th grade where they bridge into boy scouts that is scout led. Scouts organize and lead the meetings, have a large say in where they are going to camp on their monthly campouts, what activities they want to have, organize patrols, leaders, stuff like that.
Parents are still there to oversee, but take a laissez-faire approach unless needed.
 
There could be a reason like buying food, how many tents they needed, etc. I was in scouts. We had a deadline for sign ups.
 
There was a deadline but you had obligations to visit the doctor and couldn't make it. What is the problem?
 
Spineshank said:
There could be a reason like buying food, how many tents they needed, etc. I was in scouts. We had a deadline for sign ups.
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100% the OP's fault.

Though i have never heard of the scouts saying sorry we are booked a day latter. 99% the time they have room.

but next time plan better OP this is YOUR fault.
 
Yes it is the OPs fault for not getting his kids signed up sooner. There usually is a deadline and that's probably why the manager at the store told them no.
I still say contact your den leader. Explain the situation and I'll bet he lets you and the kids come out and camp with the rest of the district instead of right next to them on a seperate site.
Don't let your pride get in the way man. Just make the phone call.
 
I agree you should talk to the Den Leader. When I was in Cub Scout and Boy Scout all of our official paper work went through the adults and if your Pack is already going to the event they likely have room with their contingent. If it is a Council thing that is.

If it is Council based just be warned that if you show up in a separate campsite and not with the district group you won't be able to participate in any of the Council campout events (I am assuming it's your Districts Fall Camporee?) which may be just as a big a slap in the face than going camping with them another time with just your family.

Source: I'm an Eagle Scout who didn't get diddled.
 
zokudu said:
I agree you should talk to the Den Leader. When I was in Cub Scout and Boy Scout all of our official paper work went through the adults and if your Pack is already going to the event they likely have room with their contingent. If it is a Council thing that is.

If it is Council based just be warned that if you show up in a separate campsite and not with the district group you won't be able to participate in any of the Council campout events (I am assuming it's your Districts Fall Camporee?) which may be just as a big a slap in the face than going camping with them another time with just your family.

Source: I'm an Eagle Scout who didn't get diddled.
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That's what I was thinking to. Even if they let him and his kids participate chances are they won't get any badges/activities that the fall camp out entitles them to because the paper work won't have their names on it.
 
When the people running the event tell you that you can register the next day:

They told us that we could register today (the next day). They being the cashier, who was handling the sign ups.

Then the next day when you go sign up, those same people change their minds and go back on what they said (and admit that they said the other first), that's f'd up.

I realize Alkemyst is just trolling as always, but for the rest of you, please at least take the time to read the initial post where the person doing the sign ups specifically said we could sign up the next day.

Reading comprehension goes a long way towards having an intelligent conversation.

I don't expect any special provisions, and never will. I do, however, expect consistentcy. I also expect people to hold up their end of the deal, and to honor their word, and to be accountable when they screw up.

Silly me, I thought Cub Scouts was supposed to TEACH that sort of thing.....
 
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That's what I was thinking to. Even if they let him and his kids participate chances are they won't get any badges/activities that the fall camp out entitles them to because the paper work won't have their names on it.
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I don't really care. We're not in cub scouts for the badges. We're in it for the socialization and the values that it teaches. Not the religious ones: neither my wife nor I are religious at all. We're in it for the social values they teach: responsibility, respect.

For those of you who are preaching about the issues that have been widely publicized, I'll say this. Cubscout dens are run by local parents. Parents you should know, and trust, before you give your child to. In this case, my next door neighbor runs it, has 2 children of her own.... and is a female.

Stop painting a huge organization with an overly wide brush.
 
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