Cryptocoin Mining?

[thujone]

everyone's sitting on them waiting to see what's going to happen...



i just started mining last night and i have to say even though it feels kind of like i'm hopping on the titanic given everything that's goin on... it's still cool to watch it go down

 

[RussianSensation]

It hit almost $11 today.

The 60 day volume looks alright
http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html

The network rate is exploding. It was 14-15 Thash just last month, now at almost 20!

Network total 19.808 Thash/s

The Unknown miners are getting bigger and bigger and the main pools are shrinking relative to the entire network. However, BTC Guild has grown from 1.2-1.3 Thash to 1.7-1.8 Thash. That's a massive growth in just barely more than a month. Probably more people from other countries are joining, Africa, Europe, Asia, etc.

 

[Despoiler]

$11 trading on CampBX. Unreal....

 

[RussianSensation]

Pretty amazing how gamers keep dropping $400-500 on GTX670/680 with these BTC prices. HD7970 OC is making ~$100 a month at these levels, paying for itself very quickly.

 

[Daf]

Pretty amazing how gamers keep dropping $400-500 on GTX670/680 with these BTC prices. HD7970 OC is making ~$100 a month at these levels, paying for itself very quickly.

I've currently got the 7970 and just signed up to ask what you think I should upgrade it to? I've currently made quite a bit mining with it so what do I go for next? Have around $400 what you think would be best for mining?

 

[Despoiler]

http://bitcoinmagazine.net/bitcoin-breaks-ten-dollar-barrier/

 

[Binky]

I've currently got the 7970 and just signed up to ask what you think I should upgrade it to? I've currently made quite a bit mining with it so what do I go for next? Have around $400 what you think would be best for mining?

I think the 7950 is the best value for mining. You should get 580-650mhash from it.

 

[Smartazz]

Kind of angry at myself for selling so many of mine at just over $5.

 

[RussianSensation]

I've currently got the 7970 and just signed up to ask what you think I should upgrade it to? I've currently made quite a bit mining with it so what do I go for next? Have around $400 what you think would be best for mining?

Sorry, your links didn't work. You are in the UK, right?

Arguably the best for mining would be to pre-order Butterfly Labs upcoming Jalapeno at $150 each:
http://www.butterflylabs.com/order-form-bitforce-sc-jalapeno/

If you are not interested in that, get 2x MSI TwinFrozr III HD7950. Probably the best deal in the UK for both gaming and mining:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-...92-cores-dual-link-dvi-i-hdmi-2x-mini-display

The first card you'll get for free from your current BTC and the 2 working together will pay off the 2nd one really fast!

EDIT: Sorry you already bought an HD7970 and made $400 in BTC? Ok then ignore the HD7950 CF setup. You can either get a 2nd 7970 or get a bunch of preorders on Jalapeno at Butterfly labs.

 

[Mir96TA]

Hey RussianSensation; you know off any 7970 deal for Torontonians ?

 

[RussianSensation]

Ya, Asus DirectCUII HD7970 TOP for $379.99 after $20 MIR at NCIX.com
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=68755&vpn=HD7970-DC2-3GD5&manufacture=ASUS

I didn't check the shipping cost though. You might want to go to CanadaComputers and see if they can pricematch this if you don't want to pay the shipping cost. Maybe Futureshop.ca might pricematch as well. You may have to call though to get the pricematch at Futureshop since it's an Web Only Asus DirectCUII deal at Futureshop.

Or try a pricematch at BestBuy.ca for that NCIX deal.

 

[Mir96TA]

Ya, Asus DirectCUII HD7970 TOP for $379.99 after $20 MIR at NCIX.com
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=68755&vpn=HD7970-DC2-3GD5&manufacture=ASUS

I didn't check the shipping cost though. You might want to go to CanadaComputers and see if they can pricematch this if you don't want to pay the shipping cost. Maybe Futureshop.ca might pricematch as well. You may have to call though to get the pricematch at Futureshop since it's an Web Only Asus DirectCUII deal at Futureshop.

Hmmm nothing like they had at Tiger Direct........ ?
I was hopping card with exhaust out. I really do not want whole case to become Oven.......
I would love to use Airflow system.
Fan Push Air in (Front and Bottom) then Exhaust out Top or and at Back......
It really make some what quieter and cooler case
What you think ?
I can drive to NCIX....... FS are scam........ they would come up some bazzar excuse for not abble to do a price match......
Thanks though

 

[RussianSensation]

What case do you have? Reference cards sound like jet engines overclocked. So as long as you have good case airflow (tower CPU heatsink, some intake fans that aren't blocked by HDDs and a top exhaust case fan), I'd go with an after market cooled 7970. I am not aware of any HD7970 cards that exhaust the heat out of the case and have quiet fans.

HIS has it with their 7950 though. Maybe Gigabyte Windforce 3x can be a compromise since it does exhaust some air out, but still dumps a lot into the case.

 

[Vesku]

Glad to see I'm not as much of a lone voice now, more agreement on compute being a factor, especially with bitcoin doing well. I would really like it if Nvidia had a decent bitcoin mining card, I would be happy to buy it, as the diversity in GPUs would be a nice extra hedge.

 

[Mir96TA]

What case do you have? Reference cards sound like jet engines overclocked. So as long as you have good case airflow (tower CPU heatsink, some intake fans that aren't blocked by HDDs and a top exhaust case fan), I'd go with an after market cooled 7970. I am not aware of any HD7970 cards that exhaust the heat out of the case and have quiet fans.

HIS has it with their 7950 though. Maybe Gigabyte Windforce 3x can be a compromise since it does exhaust some air out, but still dumps a lot into the case.

I am fixing to get this Zalman and I have Antec Solo

 

[RussianSensation]

Glad to see I'm not as much of a lone voice now, more agreement on compute being a factor, especially with bitcoin doing well. I would really like it if Nvidia had a decent bitcoin mining card, I would be happy to buy it, as the diversity in GPUs would be a nice extra hedge.

I agree on compute in general but Bitcoin mining has little to do with GCN's strong compute performance, DirectCompute, OpenCL compute or double precision performance. AMD cards have outperformed NV in Bitcoin mining every generation since HD4800 series. It's actually based on pure ALU shader performance in SH256. Even HD4890 OC is nearly as fast as the 680 in this task.

I am fixing to get this Zalman and I have Antec Solo

Looks good. The Solo has poor airflow. I have the Azza Solano and I like it. Big case with tons of airflow (but obviously not high quality like the Silverstones, Corsair or Lian-Li and so on). The Zalman case looks like a great value for $50.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

You were having issues with using the normal or faster bitstreams right? You shouldn't mount your singles sideways like that. Heatpipes don't work well when they are mounted 90 degrees from where they were designed to be oriented.

Also, how about these bitcoins being > $10.50. Supposedly bitcoins are supply constrained atm. No one is selling. Someone has to dump what they are sitting on me thinks.

Yeah, that's true about the heatpipes not being as effective. Unfortunately however, I was having problems with the faster bitstreams when operating them horizontally
I'd rather have them running rock solid at 800MH/s even at higher ambient temps.

Want me to dump my 500 coins? Been extremely busy the past few months (graduating, moving, starting a new job) and the BTC value was pretty stagnant, so I figured what the heck, just let the coins pile up.

 

[Dark Shroud]

My main case for Mining is the Antec Eleven Hundred. I have a MSI 890FXA-GD70 motherboard that holds three 5870s all OC'd to 900mhz in it. It's gets around 1.3ghz on average.

 

[Vesku]

Well, it's more of pointing out that AMD now offers very strong general GPU compute as well as strong Bitcoin mining numbers. Where as Nvidia has maintained the status quo of being bad for Bitcoin mining while also basically standing still in general GPU compute as well.

The game performance is close enough and the power consumption narrow enough to make the above the primary factors for me. Shame too, going to more compute units I was hoping Nvidia Bitcoin numbers would get better even if general GPU compute did not.

I agree on compute in general but Bitcoin mining has little to do with GCN's strong compute performance, DirectCompute, OpenCL compute or double precision performance. AMD cards have outperformed NV in Bitcoin mining every generation since HD4800 series. It's actually based on pure ALU shader performance in SH256. Even HD4890 OC is nearly as fast as the 680 in this task.



Looks good. The Solo has poor airflow. I have the Azza Solano and I like it. Big case with tons of airflow (but obviously not high quality like the Silverstones, Corsair or Lian-Li and so on). The Zalman case looks like a great value for $50.

 

[Zargon]

Sorry, your links didn't work. You are in the UK, right?

Arguably the best for mining would be to pre-order Butterfly Labs upcoming Jalapeno at $150 each:
http://www.butterflylabs.com/order-form-bitforce-sc-jalapeno/

If you are not interested in that, get 2x MSI TwinFrozr III HD7950. Probably the best deal in the UK for both gaming and mining:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-...92-cores-dual-link-dvi-i-hdmi-2x-mini-display

The first card you'll get for free from your current BTC and the 2 working together will pay off the 2nd one really fast!

EDIT: Sorry you already bought an HD7970 and made $400 in BTC? Ok then ignore the HD7950 CF setup. You can either get a 2nd 7970 or get a bunch of preorders on Jalapeno at Butterfly labs.

what hash rate do 7950's pull? how quickly is the payoff on those?

if the place I interviewed with Friday doesnt make me an offer that lures me away from my current job, I will probably drop a machine in my server room again.......atleast one 6950, was looking at maybe picking up another.

but xfire 7950 at home seems tempting and toss tri 69xx at work

have to see my payoffs though, I have 8 or 9 coins sitting around now

and the mobos I have laying around each only have 1 x16 and 1 x1

 

[Binky]

what hash rate do 7950's pull? how quickly is the payoff on those?

My 7950 at 1100/625 is doing about 580mh on diablo. Temps run in the low 70C range with a 75F-80F room temp. This is about double what my 6950 pulls at temp/noise optimized settings. You can push it/them higher if you can tolerate more noise.

 

[thilanliyan]

My 7950 at 1100MHz gets about 550MH/s with Guiminer.

ANyone else havin connection problems with MtRed? I get disconnected regularly.

 

[Binky]

Yes, Mtred has been unstable for days. Use a fallback server.

 

[thilanliyan]

My 7950 at 1100/625 is doing about 580mh on diablo. Temps run in the low 70C range with a 75F-80F room temp. This is about double what my 6950 pulls at temp/noise optimized settings. You can push it/them higher if you can tolerate more noise.

Have you got Diablo miner working in Windows?

If so, how? Is here a tutorial anywhere? My one just crashes on startup.

 

[Binky]

Try this for two pools. Change user1,user2 and pass1,pass2 to your info for both pools. Change location unless your name is Mike and its on your desktop. Also, remember that this is java-based, so i think you need a working java install.

"C:\Users\Mike\Desktop\DiabloMiner\DiabloMiner-Windows.exe" -u user1,user2 -p pass1,pass2 -o mine.mtred.com,mmpool.bitparking.com -r 8337,15098 -v 1 -w 256

Diablo is faster on my 7950, but poclbm is faster on my 6950.