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Cruz drops out, Trump 2016 GOP Nominee

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werepossum said:
Not unless he's scalping troll dolls.
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This guy better watch it, drumpf is getting a little thin on top again.
 
SP33Demon said:
Somebody's butthurt about the thought of a well respected hispanic woman for VP running alongside Trump. Really gets your goat, doesn't it? To think that everything you think is bad about Trump (misogynistic/racist) could be running alongside him to neutralize those feelings. Oh, the ironing is delicious.
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New Mexico’s governor, Susana Martinez, chairwoman of the Republican Governors Association, did not mince words: She told the crowd of about 60 wealthy GOP backers that, as a Latina, she was offended by Trump’s language about immigrants. Noting her years working as a prosecutor on the Mexican border and now as a border-state governor, Martinez said Trump’s plan to build a wall and force Mexico to pay for it was unrealistic and irresponsible, according to multiple people in attendance.

The comments were a remarkably strong rebuke of the GOP front-runner by Martinez, who has been publicly circumspect about his candidacy since the GOP contest began. She spoke out after the other female governor in the room, South Carolina’s Nikki Haley, also criticized Trump, expressing concern that his rhetoric would taint the Republican brand. Haley said it was imperative that the GOP be inclusive to people from all backgrounds, according to attendees.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-sharp-critique-of-trump-at-rga-donor-event/

What were you muttering about regarding your ironing?
 
Victorian Gray said:
Haley said it was imperative that the GOP be inclusive to people from all backgrounds, according to attendees.
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Trump is just expressing the frustration everyone already feels. Diversity simply doesn't work. There are dozens of studies showing that diversity divides communities. The root word itself means divide or split.

Black Pigeon Speaks did a great video explaining the problem of forced diversity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTROCGb5qj8
 
Spungo said:
This doesn't even make sense. Trump won the elections. He's the only thing keeping the GOP alive at this point.
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Democrats assume having evil Donald on the ticket will lead to a 1984-style landslide. I think Hilldog will win, but it will close enough and she will be torn down enough by him that "progressives" will be doubting their faith in humanity come 2017.
 
poofyhairguy said:
Democrats assume having evil Donald on the ticket will lead to a 1984-style landslide. I think Hilldog will win, but it will close enough and she will be torn down enough by him that "progressives" will be doubting their faith in humanity come 2017.
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More than that I don't think Hillary is a shoe in for the 2020 nomination. What Bernie has shown us is she needs to adapt or she might need to move over in 2020.

2016 might just be a kick the can down for 4 years so sanity and peace can prevail over lets watch the world burn.

Funny thing is the democrats truly are the Reaganite Republican Party nowdays but the Republicans have had to go so far right to compete they're hunting ducks in Antartica where there aren't ducks.
 
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Indus said:
More than that I don't think Hillary is a shoe in for the 2020 nomination.
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If she wins this year I don't see any way she loses the 2020 nomination, or even the 2020 election. Americans are too enamored with celebrity in the 21st century (hello Trump!) and the incumbent president's brand has too much value. Outside of scandal I don't expect to see another one term president in my lifetime.

What Bernie has shown us is she needs to adapt or she might need to move over in 2020.
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I think if anything Bernie has shown us his agenda might be farther out than his supporters hope. He bombed in major cities, with minorities, and with older women. Those three groups are the tentpoles of the modern Democratic party, without them he or future politicians that follow him don't have a chance.

As it is Bernie is super popular with young white men- ie the exact group that might hop the aisle as soon as they start paying taxes and have young daughters who have to share a bathroom with creepy men. We see it happen time and time again, the major force on the left is minorities and older women and has been for decades.
 
werepossum said:
I'm betting that Haley gets the nod after Martinez declines. Maybe not though, she's very socially conservative and Trump is socially liberal.
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Nikki Haley is a rising GOP star who could potentially run for president herself in 2020 or beyond. I very much doubt she's going to sabotage that by joining the GOP/Trump shitshow in 2016.
 
Balt said:
Nikki Haley is a rising GOP star who could potentially run for president herself in 2020 or beyond. I very much doubt she's going to sabotage that by joining the GOP/Trump shitshow in 2016.
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IIRC there's some reason Haley hates Trump and vice-versa.
 
poofyhairguy said:
Democrats assume having evil Donald on the ticket will lead to a 1984-style landslide.
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So the assumption is that Trump is less electable than Ted Cruz? Based on what? I'm having trouble imagining what a Cruz supporter actually looks like. They're not black, and they're not hispanic. They would be white, but they would be white people who genuinely feel the economy is getting better (Trump represents angry white people who think it's getting worse). So we're down to maybe 20 people at the country club? Those are the Cruz supporters?

Now I'm genuinely curious about this. I want 1 person on this forum, or maybe just 1 person in all of America, who says they plan to vote for Hillary but they would vote for Ted Cruz if he won the nomination.
 
Spungo said:
So the assumption is that Trump is less electable than Ted Cruz? Based on what? I'm having trouble imagining what a Cruz supporter actually looks like. They're not black, and they're not hispanic. They would be white, but they would be white people who genuinely feel the economy is getting better (Trump represents angry white people who think it's getting worse). So we're down to maybe 20 people at the country club? Those are the Cruz supporters?

Now I'm genuinely curious about this. I want 1 person on this forum, or maybe just 1 person in all of America, who says they plan to vote for Hillary but they would vote for Ted Cruz if he won the nomination.
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Because Most Americans feel that Illegal immigration is not bad, Free Trade is good and Wall Street is good.
 
Spungo said:
Trump is just expressing the frustration everyone already feels. Diversity simply doesn't work. There are dozens of studies showing that diversity divides communities. The root word itself means divide or split.

Black Pigeon Speaks did a great video explaining the problem of forced diversity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTROCGb5qj8
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I live in an incredibly diverse major metropolis (that works pretty good) in an incredibly diverse country (that works pretty good) and I say you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
 
Spungo said:
This doesn't even make sense. Trump won the elections. He's the only thing keeping the GOP alive at this point.
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Actually that is not true.

The whackadoodle religious evangelicals of the GOP are now talking about splitting off and starting a new party.
 
dmcowen674 said:
Actually that is not true.

The whackadoodle religious evangelicals of the GOP are now talking about splitting off and starting a new party.
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That would be a good thing. The GOP could give up trying to ban abortion, ease up a little on social welfare, and draw in a lot of moderate democrats. Without a huge fringe to pander to, it would be a vastly improved party. Pretty much the group that are now supporting Trump.
 
I find it amusing tonight that all the progressive talk shows have republican guests claiming they would never and could never support nor vote for Donald Trump.
Well you know, they will support Trump in the end.

The way Donald Trump will win and could win is to pick up republicans that swore they would never support him.
And pick up independents pissed after Sanders loses to Hillary. And we all know Hillary would never pick up Sanders supporters.
And Trump could win by picking up democrats.
Democrats that register as democrat but typically vote for the Ross Perot's and the Ralph Nader's.

There you have your basic Donald Trump path to the presidency.
And that will work. And Trump will win.
And while progressive talk shows focus on anti Trump republicans one after another as if that were a realistic trend, who is fooling who?

The difference between democrats and republicans, republicans have this built-in ability to come onboard.
Democrats lack that ability.
If a democrat supported Bernie Sanders and Sanders does no succeed, democrats will bail.
They will never jump on the Hillary band wagon.
They will either stay home, of go with the other revelutionary candidate, Donald Trump.
 
Victorian Gray said:
I live in an incredibly diverse major metropolis (that works pretty good) in an incredibly diverse country (that works pretty good) and I say you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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Refuting peer reviewed studies with 1 anecdote. How scientific of you.

I think it's interesting that chemicals act in a very similar way. If you test the solubility of two liquids, you'll find they mix best at the extremes. 90% A and 10% B mixes well. 10% A and 90% B mixes well. 50% A and 50% B does not mix at all.

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In simple terms, this means having a population that is 50% American and 50% Mexican causes people to self-segregate along ethnic lines. The Mexican people only associate with Mexicans, and the Americans only associate with Americans. The two groups do not blend together because there's no reason for them to blend together. All of the friends and lovers needed for a happy social life can be found within the group. If you have 1 American and 9 Mexicans, that one American is forced to cross ethnic lines to build relationships.

This aspect of human behavior is why Washington state doesn't have the racial tensions seen in other states. We all laugh at states like Alabama because so much bizarre racism happens there, but why do you think that is? It's due to self-segregation. Alabama and Georgia might have 10x as many black people on a per capita basis, but they're less integrated. The various groups are large enough that they don't need to interact with each other. It leads to white-only neighborhoods and black-only neighborhoods. There's none of that in Washington. Black people are part of the white community, and by extension, white people are part of the black community.

You're more than welcome to prove me wrong. Visit a diverse city like Detroit and tell me how great race relations are; building a physical wall wouldn't make Detroit more segregated than it already is. When you get out of the hospital, come visit Seattle.
 
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