Critical Race Theory Is The Left’s QAnon

[Jhhnn]

Whether it's all environmental (and within that debate -- mostly non-discriminatory vs. white man keeping them down/saying mean things) vs. partially or all genetic is a different question. We are dealing with a fact: If black people come out of high school with such a significant deficit relative to whites, how can you expect equal outcomes in the labor force? Liberals like to place blame on the employers for the income gap, but ignore the obvious skill/knowledge deficit in educational outcomes.

The Black-White Test Score Gap: Why It Persists and What Can Be Done | Brookings

Brookings Review article by Christopher Jencks and Meredith Phillips (Spring 1998)

www.brookings.edu

African Americans score lower than European Americans on vocabulary, reading, and math tests, as well as on tests that claim to measure scholastic aptitude and intelligence. The gap appears before children enter kindergarten and it persists into adulthood. It has narrowed since 1970, but the typical American black still scores below 75 percent of American whites on almost every standardized test. This statistic does not imply, of course, that all blacks score below all whites. There is a lot of overlap between the two groups. Nonetheless, the test score gap is large enough to have significant social and economic consequences.

Closing the black-white test score gap would probably do more to promote racial equality in the United States than any other strategy now under serious discussion.

So, if blacks aren't intrinsically inferior, then there must be some other mechanism for the disparity... some reason like... wait for it... systemic racism. You can drop the "I'm not really a racist, but..." routine. Nobody's buying it.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

So, if blacks aren't intrinsically inferior, then there must be some other mechanism for the disparity... some reason like... wait for it... systemic racism. You can drop the "I'm not really a racist, but..." routine. Nobody's buying it.

That's part of an entire psychology of those who display the attitudes you describe. It's very simple once you wrap your mind around it. Once they've got beyond expressing their denial of racist or racialist attitudes, they can go full throttle in finding ways to criticize, for instance, every single position -- every single executive order, every single legislative proposal including the ACA -- of the Obama administration and terms through January 2017. But you cannot find every single aspect of the Obama legacy wrong -- and we might think otherwise that a major part of Obama presidential initiatives could be as "right" as they are simply a matter of common sense.

So it all carries over as attitudes about the Biden presidency.

Activists must have more faith than I. This division in public attitudes just continues and goes on , and on, and on.

 

[Maxima1]

So, if blacks aren't intrinsically inferior, then there must be some other mechanism for the disparity... some reason like... wait for it... systemic racism. You can drop the "I'm not really a racist, but..." routine. Nobody's buying it.

Yet you wouldn't say systemic racism is the reason for the difference between Asians/Jews, vs. whites. You would suggest some nondiscriminatory reason(s). So why does the black-white gap have to be about systemic racism? Can you also explain why countries (i.e. UK & Canada vs. US) that have very different institutional histories have very similar racial outcomes?

 

[ivwshane]

Yet you wouldn't say systemic racism is the reason for the difference between Asians/Jews, vs. whites. You would suggest some nondiscriminatory reason(s). So why does the black-white gap have to be about systemic racism? Can you also explain why countries (i.e. UK & Canada vs. US) that have very different institutional histories have very similar racial outcomes?

I call bull shit on your entire premise. Slavery was our original sin, but it wasn’t the only sin and it’s not the only difference between us and other countries. The other countries you named also have systemic racism issues, especially where it makes the biggest difference, the education system.

 

[m8d]

Whether it's all environmental (and within that debate -- mostly non-discriminatory vs. white man keeping them down/saying mean things) vs. partially or all genetic is a different question. We are dealing with a fact: If black people come out of high school with such a significant deficit relative to whites, how can you expect equal outcomes in the labor force? Liberals like to place blame on the employers for the income gap, but ignore the obvious skill/knowledge deficit in educational outcomes.

The Black-White Test Score Gap: Why It Persists and What Can Be Done | Brookings

Brookings Review article by Christopher Jencks and Meredith Phillips (Spring 1998)

www.brookings.edu

African Americans score lower than European Americans on vocabulary, reading, and math tests, as well as on tests that claim to measure scholastic aptitude and intelligence. The gap appears before children enter kindergarten and it persists into adulthood. It has narrowed since 1970, but the typical American black still scores below 75 percent of American whites on almost every standardized test. This statistic does not imply, of course, that all blacks score below all whites. There is a lot of overlap between the two groups. Nonetheless, the test score gap is large enough to have significant social and economic consequences.

Closing the black-white test score gap would probably do more to promote racial equality in the United States than any other strategy now under serious discussion.

It has only been 57 years since Jim Crow law was outlawed and 67 years since Brown v. Board of Education. The first slaves arrived in 1619. 402 years of oppression can fuck you up.

 

[HomerJS]

Yet you wouldn't say systemic racism is the reason for the difference between Asians/Jews, vs. whites. You would suggest some nondiscriminatory reason(s). So why does the black-white gap have to be about systemic racism? Can you also explain why countries (i.e. UK & Canada vs. US) that have very different institutional histories have very similar racial outcomes?

Like @ivwshane said slavery isn't the only sin. This country had entire regions where black people were the opposite of how people like @s0me0nesmind1 characterize us, hard working, prosperous, upstanding citizens like the neighborhood of Greenwood in Tulsa. Those people were killed, homes and business burned to the ground and the survivors scattered throughout the country by the KKK and the City of Tulsa. Yet even today people don't want survivors and their families to receive reparations for the years of lost wealth.

 

[zinfamous]

the fucking plainclothes racists really came out in force yesterday on Juneteenth, eh? Man, something must have really sparked their anger.

 

[Paratus]

"It doesn’t.

This assumption is driven by a misrepresentation of one of the foundational principles of CRT–that racism is “ordinary.” [...]
So Critical Race Theory does not teach that America is a racist country.
America teaches us that America is a racist country."

He says the assumption is wrong, yet then says that CRT teaches they are perpetual victims lol

This part is also a gem showing how political this is.

When a racist employer doesn’t want to hire Black people, all of the white job candidates benefit. When majority-white school districts receive $23 billion more in funding than nonwhite school districts, all of the white children get better schools. This is why white workers and white parents don’t work as hard (if at all) to challenge structural racism. Why would they dismantle a system that benefits them?

1.The wage gap is mostly explained by the white-black IQ gap and other nondiscriminatory factors, some of which could intersect somewhat with IQ, including educational pipeline (e.g. blacks going to university for less marketable degrees). Similar reason why Jews/Asians earn more on average, yet nobody wants to discuss those differences. It's ironic that the end game here for this guy is to explicitly give job preferences to black people.

African-Americans over-represented among low-paying college majors

More African-Americans are earning college degrees than ever before. But a new study shows they're over-represented in majors that lead to low-paying jobs.

www.pbs.org

2.$23 billion dollars is a trivial difference when yearly K-12 spending is like $700 billion for the year that his figure is from. He conveniently omits that since the 1970's, spending per pupil has gone up like 3X with little to show for, with some states spending much more than others (e.g. NY $20K vs. Utah at less than half -- yet they would still bitch that it wasn't enough for black people there). They might want to look in the mirror to see who is privileging some at the expense of others.

"We believe schools have plenty of money, but they're just using it wrong by allowing administrators to make over $300,000 to oversee one or two schools," she said. "If they continue to get this money, they will keep doing this and it will increase the pension obligation. It's a budget breaker. The State of Illinois' back is almost broken with the burden of this type of practice, and it's getting worse as these new figures show.

"It's a ratcheting system where everyone says, `Look at New Trier, look at DuPage.' They keep comparing themselves to each other and ratcheting up their salaries."

Most “I’m not a racist but” racists try and make it about about genetics to keep the illusion of the system being a meritocracy alive so they can lie to themselves about not being racists.

Any respectable geneticist, biologist, or sociologist will tell you race is almost entirely a social construct. There simply is no meaningful difference in genetics:

How Science and Genetics are Reshaping the Race Debate of the 21st Century - Science in the News

by Vivian Chou figures by Daniel Utter Donald Trump’s election as the 45th President of the United States has been marked by the brewing storms of racial conflicts. A rise in racial incidents ensued in the immediate aftermath of Trump’s victory in November 2016. Since the beginning of 2017, over...

sitn.hms.harvard.edu

If separate racial or ethnic groups actually existed, we would expect to find “trademark” alleles and other genetic features that are characteristic of a single group but not present in any others. However, the 2002 Stanford study found that only 7.4% of over 4000 alleles were specific to one geographical region. Furthermore, even when region-specific alleles did appear, they only occurred in about 1% of the people from that region—hardly enough to be any kind of trademark. Thus, there is no evidence that the groups we commonly call “races” have distinct, unifying genetic identities. In fact, there is ample variation within races

They also ignore reams of evidence of the impact of poverty and racism on cognitive performance - the better to assign those performance deficits to the genetics of the socially constructed “race”.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Most “I’m not a racist but” racists try and make it about about genetics to keep the illusion of the system being a meritocracy alive so they can lie to themselves about not being racists.

Any respectable geneticist, biologist, or sociologist will tell you race is almost entirely a social construct. There simply is no meaningful difference in genetics:

Right. Sure. And I'm sure that blacks dominate in the olympics for running because of a social construct. As is the same with white people in swimming, etc.. etc... etc...

Do you sincerely tell yourselves these obvious racist lies with a straight face?

 

[fskimospy]

Right. Sure. And I'm sure that blacks dominate in the olympics for running because of a social construct. As is the same with white people in swimming, etc.. etc... etc...

Do you sincerely tell yourselves these obvious racist lies with a straight face?

By your logic Europeans are better at soccer than people from the US because they are genetically superior for the sport.

Maybe take that Olympic level brain of yours and ask yourself if maybe white people are better at swimming than black people because there are a lot more swimming pools and a lot more competitive swim teams to develop those skills where white people live?

 

[ivwshane]

By your logic Europeans are better at soccer than people from the US because they are genetically superior for the sport.

Maybe take that Olympic level brain of yours and ask yourself if maybe white people are better at swimming than black people because there are a lot more swimming pools and a lot more competitive swim teams to develop those skills where white people live?

Clearly he knows everything so I have no idea why he even bothers posting in any thread. I feel sorry for his family though, it’s no wonder they probably barely talk to him.

 

[rommelrommel]

Right. Sure. And I'm sure that blacks dominate in the olympics for running because of a social construct. As is the same with white people in swimming, etc.. etc... etc...

Do you sincerely tell yourselves these obvious racist lies with a straight face?

So what's your position? I would agree that races do have some differences regarding physical traits when speaking overall.

Is your position that some races are just dumber, to speak plainly?

 

[fskimospy]

Clearly he knows everything so I have no idea why he even bothers posting in any thread. I feel sorry for his family though, it’s no wonder they probably barely talk to him.

He probably thinks preppie frat boys named Logan are genetically superior at lacrosse and crew. After all, what else would explain their success?

 

[MrSquished]

He probably thinks preppie frat boys named Logan are genetically superior at lacrosse and crew. After all, what else would explain their success?

Ditto with Ice Hockey. Swimming. Pool access is fucking expensive. It's more expensive to access certain gear and facilities so the race that has the most wealth is far more predominant in those sports than the most poor race in the country. As far as track and field, there may be some physical attributes that are related. But those physical attributes would pay dividends in both ice hockey and lacrosse, for example. It's purely an economics thing.

This shit is really basic critical thinking I, and most of you, figured out decades ago simply by just thinking about it. Tons of easy to find articles on this stuff. A key tenet of being conservative is a lack of critical thinking skills. I mean fuck the overly woke far left, they can suck. But they are a fringe. The conservative base is just brain dead.

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[Scarpozzi]

You all need to take your opinions elsewhere. This is politics and news....not politics, news, and opinions.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Most “I’m not a racist but” racists try and make it about about genetics to keep the illusion of the system being a meritocracy alive so they can lie to themselves about not being racists.

Any respectable geneticist, biologist, or sociologist will tell you race is almost entirely a social construct. There simply is no meaningful difference in genetics:

How Science and Genetics are Reshaping the Race Debate of the 21st Century - Science in the News

by Vivian Chou figures by Daniel Utter Donald Trump’s election as the 45th President of the United States has been marked by the brewing storms of racial conflicts. A rise in racial incidents ensued in the immediate aftermath of Trump’s victory in November 2016. Since the beginning of 2017, over...

sitn.hms.harvard.edu

If separate racial or ethnic groups actually existed, we would expect to find “trademark” alleles and other genetic features that are characteristic of a single group but not present in any others. However, the 2002 Stanford study found that only 7.4% of over 4000 alleles were specific to one geographical region. Furthermore, even when region-specific alleles did appear, they only occurred in about 1% of the people from that region—hardly enough to be any kind of trademark. Thus, there is no evidence that the groups we commonly call “races” have distinct, unifying genetic identities. In fact, there is ample variation within races

They also ignore reams of evidence of the impact of poverty and racism on cognitive performance - the better to assign those performance deficits to the genetics of the socially constructed “race”.

Its just them trying to reframe it in a supposed scientific way again so they can claim they're not racist, "its science!" which is why we had morons that don't actually understand science like the Google "women are inferior" manifesto guy and then of course our king clownbaby of piss. What's old (i.e. eugenics) is new again, same old white supremacist patriarchal shit rotting the brains of shit for brains.

It has only been 57 years since Jim Crow law was outlawed and 67 years since Brown v. Board of Education. The first slaves arrived in 1619. 402 years of oppression can fuck you up.

And there's ample evidence that the racism that fueled that shit continued in spite of the laws. And plenty other bigotry that was tacitly socially accepted.

 

[zinfamous]

Right. Sure. And I'm sure that blacks dominate in the olympics for running because of a social construct. As is the same with white people in swimming, etc.. etc... etc...

Do you sincerely tell yourselves these obvious racist lies with a straight face?

jesus fucking christ.

a retard appears on the horizon.

 

[Paratus]

Right. Sure. And I'm sure that blacks dominate in the olympics for running because of a social construct. As is the same with white people in swimming, etc.. etc... etc...

Do you sincerely tell yourselves these obvious racist lies with a straight face?

You know it’s funny. I’m on vacation and we just took a tour of Monticello, Thomas Jefferson’s home in VA. He who wrote the Declaration of Independence, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and had portraits of such noted giants of the enlightenment as Francis Bacon (scientific method), Isaac Newton (physics and calculus), and John Locke (philosophy - that people were born with natural rights to life, liberty, and property) hanging in his parlor

Jefferson who believed all of that also believed, blacks were fundamentally different than whites, that their emotions were more transient and fleeting for them than for Europeans. That they didn’t feel things as deeply. Probably made being a slave owner easier to justify. After all Jefferson had approximately 600 enslaved peoples at Monticello through out his life.

So it’s funny because here you are, 250 years later, posting the same unsupported trope. Blacks are “X” because they are black. I literally linked you a scientific article on the genetics of race and how there is effectively no genetic markers identifying our socially constructed races of whites, blacks, asians, etc yet here you are.

Now I can link you to scientific articles about how poverty and discrimination can affect cognitive function, memory, attention and IQ performance. Of course those affect everyone pretty equally. It’s just that historically, socially and politically they’ve affected certain groups more than others.
Which is the lens through which CRT views historical and legal precedents in an effort to understand why.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Benjamin Franklin considered French, Swedes and Germans (other than Saxons) to be non-whites. Hell, the current definition of white isn’t even as old as the 19th century. You don’t have to go back that far to find a time when the Irish, Italians, and at least in Canada Ukrainians and other Slavs weren’t considered white. Characterizing the English and the French as different races - especially given the Norman Conquest - would strike most people today as being totally ridiculous, but not all that far back that’s what people did.

 

[HomerJS]

Right. Sure. And I'm sure that blacks dominate in the olympics for running because of a social construct. As is the same with white people in swimming, etc.. etc... etc...

Do you sincerely tell yourselves these obvious racist lies with a straight face?

Now I know where you get some of your racism, your father is Al Campanis. Just a matter of time before it came out in sports

 

[JD50]

Right. Sure. And I'm sure that blacks dominate in the olympics for running because of a social construct. As is the same with white people in swimming, etc.. etc... etc...

Do you sincerely tell yourselves these obvious racist lies with a straight face?

It's funny how out of all the sports, you picked the two most obvious ones to prove how incredibly stupid you are.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Benjamin Franklin considered French, Swedes and Germans (other than Saxons) to be non-whites.

To be fair many Swedes (and English) can be catagorized more as "Translucent" than white (source: i'm scandinavian)

 

[VRAMdemon]

Yawn - Right-wing media and Republican politicians are now railing against the teaching of a broad academic discipline that seeks to explore how the history of racism in America still has an effect on modern life and society. They have boogymaned it to depict this simple concept as an imminent threat to the well being of the country. To make it out to be some insidious effort to "warp the minds of children" and make them feel guilty for "being born white" and other related nonsense. Fucking Foxnews has has covered the topic over 550 times in 11 months while another study found that nearly 90% of Facebook posts on the topic of critical race theory come from right-leaning sources — as the conservative movement has sought to whip up a public frenzy. CRT threatens their orthodox view of America. They cannot deviate from their script.

They don’t know what CRT is but don’t need to because their people don’t either. They just hear OMG "critical race theory". We can fleece the rubes with this easily.. They could just as easily rail against teaching the standard theory in physics. The point was to turn an academic school of thought into a catch-all phrase that conjures everything people fear. I'm sure they would be outraged to learn their children are being taught Arab numerals in "Liberal schools". That’s actually been put to the test. 56% of Americans surveyed objected to teaching Arabic numerals in school. It should scare the Hell out of everyone that these people don’t know that—THAT IS our numeral system.

This type of shit is the today's GOP “strategy” on everything. It plays to a base. A base that is fearful and has been educated to believe their problems are based on “other” non white people taking from what they think is a zero sum game. The goal is to have the public view something crazy happening in the news regarding black people and then have the base immediately think "critical race theory" steadily driving up negative perceptions until it becomes completely toxic in those minds. Again Yawn.

 

[Jaskalas]

moral panic in 1 chart:

Moral panics lead to violence.

No doubt Fox News would blame Democrats after Fox whips people into a frenzy.
Scary part is... this outcome may be their intent. What if they know what they are doing?

 

[Vic]

Right. Sure. And I'm sure that blacks dominate in the olympics for running because of a social construct. As is the same with white people in swimming, etc.. etc... etc...

Do you sincerely tell yourselves these obvious racist lies with a straight face?

Lol at the fucking clown who is so fucking racist that he called the argument that there are no races a "racist lie."

Wtf... seriously.. wtf.