Critical Race Theory Is The Left’s QAnon

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woolfe9998

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Got no answers for you, hard to take notes while driving.
It was just a mention that some Washington official announced that CRT would be taught in all of their public schools. I wouldn't have thought much about it but fskimospy had responded to a post saying it was only taught in collage the day before.

There is no such mandate. I'm afraid you either didn't listen closely enough or were duped by whatever you heard.

Washington just passed a law which requires that school districts set aside one day a year as a professional training day for school district staff that focuses on topics such as diversity, equity and inclusion. The law does not say a thing about curriculum nor does it require that anything be taught to students. It's just a staff diversity day.


Here is the bill text.


Do not make this allegation again unless you can quote the bill to back it up.
 

woolfe9998

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What news? Which schools (Washington DC or Washington state??) What’s in the actual curriculum?

I read this guy’s blog post (https://mynorthwest.com/3001242/rantz-superintendent-critical-race-theory-schools-lie/) where he claims the superintendent is lying about CRT and points to an example of a single teacher’s lesson plan that a parent filmed off Zoom. But then he goes on to say this:

“It’s seldom labeled “critical race theory” directly. Instead, they use softer language like “culturally responsive teaching,” “diversity and inclusion,” “unconscious bias,” and “equity.” But it all connects to the same CRT concept. And the intent of new statewide mandates for staff training is based on CRT.”

This is the rub. When conservatives rail against CRT, educated independent thinkers assume they’re railing against an obscure academic theory that isn’t actually being taught. Naturally, we wonder why all the fuss?? But they’re not actually railing against CRT. These conservatives are essentially saying that because CRT merely exists, we can’t teach about systemic racism, the benefits of diversity and inclusion, or anything that might make someone “anti-racist”. Motte and Bailey indeed.

Yup, that's exactly what they're doing. They're defining everything that is anti-racist as "critical race theory" in hopes that they can eventually ban the discussion of racism in schools and wherever else they can ban it.
 
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zinfamous

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Yup, that's exactly what they're doing. They're defining everything that is anti-racist as "critical race theory" in hopes that they can eventually ban the discussion of racism in schools and wherever else they can ban it.

like I've believed for a long time: we don't evolve and move on until the current generation dies. The next one will be a bit less racist and, hopefully, less retarded.
 
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What news? Which schools (Washington DC or Washington state??) What’s in the actual curriculum?

I read this guy’s blog post (https://mynorthwest.com/3001242/rantz-superintendent-critical-race-theory-schools-lie/) where he claims the superintendent is lying about CRT and points to an example of a single teacher’s lesson plan that a parent filmed off Zoom. But then he goes on to say this:

“It’s seldom labeled “critical race theory” directly. Instead, they use softer language like “culturally responsive teaching,” “diversity and inclusion,” “unconscious bias,” and “equity.” But it all connects to the same CRT concept. And the intent of new statewide mandates for staff training is based on CRT.”

This is the rub. When conservatives rail against CRT, educated independent thinkers assume they’re railing against an obscure academic theory that isn’t actually being taught. Naturally, we wonder why all the fuss?? But they’re not actually railing against CRT. These conservatives are essentially saying that because CRT merely exists, we can’t teach about systemic racism, the benefits of diversity and inclusion, or anything that might make someone “anti-racist”. Motte and Bailey indeed.

Er, wait, did you for even a moment think they were being honest about just being mad about CRT specifically and this wasn't just them raging about so-called liberal intellectualism in general? And sure, when its about confronting our "so racist it was studied by the Nazis as the basis for their entire fundamental ideology" history it obviously really brings out their ire, just like ebonics, the Civil Rights Movement, etc did.

Goddamn you guys really like getting played.
 

nakedfrog

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There is no such mandate. I'm afraid you either didn't listen closely enough or were duped by whatever you heard.

Washington just passed a law which requires that school districts set aside one day a year as a professional training day for school district staff that focuses on topics such as diversity, equity and inclusion. The law does not say a thing about curriculum nor does it require that anything be taught to students. It's just a staff diversity day.


Here is the bill text.


Do not make this allegation again unless you can quote the bill to back it up.
Yeah, I looked it up too, most of the results were conservatives shrieking about the horrors about to be wrought upon the schools and our poor children (WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN, natch). This letter to the editor was probably written before the right-wing media machine had gotten to the "full tizzy" setting:
On May 5, Washington State Gov. Jay Inslee signed Senate Bill 5044 into law, which requires Critical Race Theory (CRT) training for all school staff, board directors, teachers, and administrators in public schools across the state.
 
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HurleyBird

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If anyone is interested in an actual nuanced view of CRT and the various anti-CRT laws making the rounds, FIRE has an excellent overview.


Proponents of the bills see them as banning sessions where preteens are made to apologize for their race privilege, or where biracial children have been told that one parent probably physically abused the other due to their oppressor status. They look at sections in the bills that ban teaching mandatory guilt, genetic essentialism, and racial superiority and wonder — and assume — that opponents of the bills must be proponents of teaching those concepts.

On the other hand, critics of these bills see bans on the 1619 Project, and vague clauses that arguably reach any discussion of slavery, and interpret them as a highly politicized mandate to teach a certain view of history intended to soften the horrors of slavery and minimize historical racism. They see those who support such laws as wanting children to learn a jingoistic and propagandized version of history. While some on each side are undoubtedly acting in bad faith, the majority are motivated by sincere and valid concerns, and both proponents and opponents are motivated to ignore the valid points of their opposition.

Each side’s distorted impression of the goals of the other side, and of what’s actually in the bills, has been an unfortunate side effect of the media coverage. Those listening to left-leaning outlets and pundits could be forgiven for thinking that the bills outright ban discussion of slavery. Those listening to right-leaning outlets and pundits could be forgiven for having no idea of the breadth and vagueness of a lot of the clauses in these bills, and the chilling effect they may create with teachers making good faith attempts to comply. The media coverage of these bills has been largely lacking in deep-dives into the actual text of the bills, instead relying on broad characterizations of their intent and the motivations behind those introducing them.
 

MrSquished

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When I hear GQP politicians talk about crt being bad they say things it is untrue racism was systemically built into America.

Ummm. Have they read the constitution? Fucking racism was built into the system of this country when it was founded. Along with other things, but definitely racism.

This is how you know one side is being more full of shit than the other.
 

cytg111

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When I hear GQP politicians talk about crt being bad they say things it is untrue racism was systemically built into America.

Ummm. Have they read the constitution? Fucking racism was built into the system of this country when it was founded. Along with other things, but definitely racism.

This is how you know one side is being more full of shit than the other.

There is no racism specifically built into the GQP. As evident of the photo of GOP congress critters:
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Something about taxation and representation and.. I forget...


GQP left, dem right :
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Someones fucked up mind will be in shortly and explain to us how the black woman in the lower right is actually the most racist of them all... and why she is dumb as a *. Wait for it.
 
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ivwshane

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If anyone is interested in an actual nuanced view of CRT and the various anti-CRT laws making the rounds, FIRE has an excellent overview.


I get enough “both sides” bull shit from posters here, I don’t need more sources of it.
 
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I get enough “both sides” bull shit from posters here, I don’t need more sources of it.

Translation: I need to further prove my cognitive dissonance by reading left-wing sources and not a diversity of opinion, or a more unbiased source.
 

Vic

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Translation: I need to further prove my cognitive dissonance by reading left-wing sources and not a diversity of opinion, or a more unbiased source.
Serious question: when have you ever once tolerated a diverse opinion or presented an unbiased source? Are you somehow of the opinion that your ranting and namecalling are tolerant? Or that regurgitating extremist propaganda, so easily debunked by the simplest logic as to be indistinguishable from baldfaced lies, is unbiased?
As wolfe told you earlier, you're not presenting a commentary here that is worth reading. No one would be missing out on a diversity of opinion by ignoring you when they could just as easily log into FB and see their drunk relative or old high school acquaintance ranting the exact same propaganda in more or less the same ill-manner.
 
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Leeea

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I get enough “both sides” bull shit from posters here, I don’t need more sources of it.

Both side-ism is stupid when one side is a waste of oxygen. When one view point is well informed, and the other is nothing more then hatred and racism, there is no point is even giving the evil side a voice.

Best to just ignore the scum, they and their lives are nothing more then a waste of oxygen.
 
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Serious question: when have you ever once tolerated a diverse opinion or presented an unbiased source? Are you somehow of the opinion that your ranting and namecalling are tolerant? Or that regurgitating extremist propaganda, so easily debunked by the simplest logic as to be indistinguishable from baldfaced lies, is unbiased?
As wolfe told you earlier, you're not presenting a commentary here that is worth reading. No one would be missing out on a diversity of opinion by ignoring you when they could just as easily log into FB and see their drunk relative or old high school acquaintance ranting the exact same propaganda in more or less the same ill-manner.

What, he diversified his information by checking out hard hitting "Gamer girl sells dirty bathwater" and "EuroDisney attacked by Islamic terrorists - wait it was just a broken escalator", oh and also 4 (or was it 8 by then, hard to remember when they transitioned after cracking down on all the child porn sent the Channers to 8, which is probably why he's been so upset as I think 8Chan also had to crackdown on the child porn and he's been a complete raging shithead ever since...).

He wouldn't know a diverse opinion if it slapped him in the face with a horsedick (he might would instinctually start deep throating it though).
 

cytg111

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Serious question: when have you ever once tolerated a diverse opinion or presented an unbiased source? Are you somehow of the opinion that your ranting and namecalling are tolerant? Or that regurgitating extremist propaganda, so easily debunked by the simplest logic as to be indistinguishable from baldfaced lies, is unbiased?
As wolfe told you earlier, you're not presenting a commentary here that is worth reading. No one would be missing out on a diversity of opinion by ignoring you when they could just as easily log into FB and see their drunk relative or old high school acquaintance ranting the exact same propaganda in more or less the same ill-manner.

If Scientology is a nefarious reality defying cult, whatever this guy subscribes to is way right of that. Point being he is in a cult. Mind fucked. Proper and well. Point of that point is that he cannot hear you, no matter how much you scream into his face. He is 100% convinced that the alien space ship is real and they are coming for his eternal soul to take him to paradise *any day now*
 
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fskimospy

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Serious question: when have you ever once tolerated a diverse opinion or presented an unbiased source? Are you somehow of the opinion that your ranting and namecalling are tolerant? Or that regurgitating extremist propaganda, so easily debunked by the simplest logic as to be indistinguishable from baldfaced lies, is unbiased?
As wolfe told you earlier, you're not presenting a commentary here that is worth reading. No one would be missing out on a diversity of opinion by ignoring you when they could just as easily log into FB and see their drunk relative or old high school acquaintance ranting the exact same propaganda in more or less the same ill-manner.
Prediction - he will not answer this and will pretend it never happened.
 

dank69

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In today's episode of "propaganda works":


Just like Americans agree with liberal policies until they find out they are liberal policies, Americans agree with the core theme of CRT (the theory that racism is not merely the product of prejudice, but that racism is embedded in American society and its legal systems) but do not agree with CRT. Oh, except Republicans, who also do not agree that racism is embedded in American society and its legal systems, surprising no one.
 
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fskimospy

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Exactly. Literally nothing in that describes the teaching of critical race theory.

Although it is funny that you’ve apparently been shrieking for pages and pages about something you don’t even understand. It’s also funny that you’ve internalized the idea that being against racism is teaching critical race theory.
 

fskimospy

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Also, I imagine there is now a furious search underway by morons such as the OP to find some teacher somewhere who is teaching something akin to critical race theory, because out of millions of teachers there will surely be a few. Then they will declare vindication and that they were right all along.

It’s stupid and tiresome and it hasn’t even happened yet.